10 reasons Blacks were hung

[packman]

"between 1882 and 1930 in just the 10 southern U.S. states of Florida, Tennessee, Arkansas, Kentucky, North Carolina, Mississippi, Georgia, Louisiana, Alabama, and South Carolina, 2,500 black people were lynched. That is an average of nearly one hanging every week"

God, what a history. Post Civil War and up to - really- semi modern times. How can a nation live with this in their collective consciousness?

Trying desperately to understand why such hatred and I believe one factor was the white generation after the Civil War trying to extract some sort of revenge against the blacks who they felt caused the war. A lot of evil on display .

WARNING: Images in this article are very disturbing.




http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/02/14/10-outrageous-reasons-black-people-were-lynched-in-america/

[BlueCaliDem]

1. It's, um, "hanged". I know, I know, I'm a nitpicker... eom

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[joeglow3]

5. Its okay. I hate it when people say "innocent until proven guilty."

I know it is becoming acceptable in American English, but should still be "proved" to me.

[PeaceNikki]

15. Thank you. I wish the OP would fix it. THINGS are hung, people are hanged.

[Silent3]

20. Some people are hung too...

...but I really don't think the OP was going there.

[lumpy]

77. tsk tsk

[deutsey]

90. Yeah, I couldn't help but think of the line from Blazing Saddles

Charlie: They said you was hung.

Bart: And they was right.

[Silent3]

105. It's twoo, it's twoo! n/t

[BlueCaliDem]

58. But as Liberals we don't, meow2u3. That's why I corrected the author of the OP - although

he/she still hasn't made the correction him/herself. And I find that troubling.

[packman]

26. Really- this is what you got out of the posting?

Rather shallow

[PeaceNikki]

49. Yes, the title is *further* dehumanizing.

The OP did not use the title of the piece they posted and used the wrong word - the one meant to describe what happens to curtains, not human beings.

That's offensive.

[BlueCaliDem]

74. Not shallow at all. See my post #73 for explanation by an expert.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5938203

I hope that cleared it up for you. Please give those Blacks who were lynched the respect they're due and change the word in your OP. That's all I ask.

[Feral Child]

33. Please delete

your callous and trivial post.

It's disrespectful.


This is a horrific and tragic subject. It deserves better.

[PeaceNikki]

52. No.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5932838

[BlueCaliDem]

59. No. You're right that it deserves better - hence my correction and why it stays.

Black people were seen as things back then, maybe even now, but it's up to us to ensure that that disrespectful mindset toward an *ethnicity is corrected before it's solidified in the general psyche. For the record, and as PeaceNikki has pointed out so many times in this thread already, things are hung. People are hanged.

I hope you understand it now.

*edited to correct spelling

[BlueCaliDem]

73. You still don't want to understand. *sigh*

For the record, and your thesaurus aside, I'll make my last attempt to be informative and defer to Paul Brians, the go-to expert on grammar (and who also believes the meaning of words matter):

This is what he writes about the words "hung" and "hanged":

Originally these words were pretty much interchangeable, but “hanged” eventually came to be used pretty exclusively to mean “executed by hanging.” Does nervousness about the existence of an indelicate adjectival form of the word prompt people to avoid the correct word in such sentences as “Lady Wrothley saw to it that her ancestors’ portraits were properly hung”? Nevertheless, “hung” is correct except when capital punishment is being imposed or someone commits suicide.
http://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/hanged.html

[font size="3"]Who is Paul Brians?[/font]

Paul Brians is Professor Emeritus of English at Washington State University. His 'Common Errors in English' Web site has been recommended by BBC Online, Writer's Digest, Yahoo! Internet Life magazine, USA Today, refdesk.com, the Seattle Times, and many other periodicals and publications.

[font size="3"]Reviews for Paul Brians' book "Common Errors in English[/font]

I rarely take a Grammar Girl podcast live without at least quadruple-checking my main thesis, and Common Errors in English Usage has quickly become one of my most valued fact-checking resources. --'Grammar Girl' Mignon Fogarty

Paul Brians has written a handy and likable reference tool. When he gives you the right answer, he sends you off chuckling--a winning combination. --Jack Miles, former literary editor, LA Times

I d call Paul Brians' book incredible, fabulous, or fantastic, except thanks to him, I know now that none of those words are what I really mean. Let's just say that Common Errors in English Usage is the most cheerfully useful book I've read since the Kama Sutra. --Scott Simon, host of NPR's Weekend Edition


I hope that cleared that up for you and we can get back to the serious discussion at hand, Feral.

[steve2470]

81. +1 nt

[BlueCaliDem]

82. Thank you, steve2470. :-) eom

[steve2470]

83. much support! nt

[BlueCaliDem]

60. I'm completely taken aback that a few don't understand that.

Thank you for explaining it to them while I was offline.

[PeaceNikki]

64. I am taken aback at the few who turn it around and get shitty. WORDS MEAN THINGS!!

[Feral Child]

32. Please delete

your callous and trivial comment.

It's disrespectful.

This is a horrific and tragic subject.
It deserves better.

[PeaceNikki]

51. No. Maybe you should demand OP correct the title of this thread as to not further dehumanize.

The OP did not use the title of the piece they posted and used the wrong word - the one meant to describe what happens to curtains, not human beings.

That's offensive.

[Feral Child]

65. You've got some sick priorities, Grammar Queen.

Whatever, let it stand and let the community see that you care more about correcting another poster's grammar rather than the plight of actual human beings who've been hung (lynched)

According to Thesaurus.com you're incorrect:

"In the sense of legal execution, hung is also quite common and is standard in all types of speech and writing except in legal documents. When legal execution is not meant, hung has become the more frequent form]: The prisoner hung himself in his cell." (Emphasis mine)

http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/hanged?s=t


You might want to see a parasitologist about that bug up your ass. It's gotta be pretty humiliating to so adamant about demanding "proper" grammar and then to be proven wrong.

[PeaceNikki]

69. Take your own advice: get a grip

congratulations. you told me!

Now go have a chamomile tea to reset your chakras and move the fuck on with your life.

[Feral Child]

70. This has hardly disrupted

my life or my ka. I came here to discuss and understand current events. When an important post has been disrupted by stupidity and sanctimonious egoism, I interdict it. It's a public service, our duty to the community.

Even though you've been proven wrong, your subthread continues to disrupt. I take no joy in proving you wrong. I'd gladly delete my posts in this very important thread, just as soon as you delete yours so discussion can resume without disruption. If you insist on continuing to act like a drama and grammar queen, despite being proven wrong, then I'll have to let mine stand.

Your choice, Peace Nikki. Are you ready to let it go?

[Feral Child]

67. And now you're speaking for someone else

in your obstinate demands to use your preferred (and incorrect) word.

Get a grip, Nikki, and reorganize your priorities. People, actual people being publicly tortured and killed for no more reason than skin color is really more important.

Black people died, are still dying, due to racism in this country, but you care so much more about demanding people conform to your misunderstanding of proper grammar.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

[packman]

40. As the first responder to this posting

I would think your response would be a bit more substantial than an error in grammar or usage. Disappointing,

[PeaceNikki]

50. Yes, the title of this OP is *further* dehumanizing.

[LanternWaste]

53. That's a great way to rationalize a petty petulance in response to a serious dialog...

That's a great way to rationalize a petty petulance in response to a serious dialog... "they did it too!!!" I used to do that very thing when I was in grade school, also.

[PeaceNikki]

54. Words mean things. It's not fucking petty petulance.

The OP did not use the title of the piece they posted and used the wrong word - the one meant to describe what happens to curtains, not human beings.

That's offensive.

Meanwhile, your only input on this topic is to shake your finger at me!?!?? Petty? Petulant? psssssssssssshhhh.

[BlueCaliDem]

57. Words matter - just like those Blacks whose lives matter. They are NOT things although

they were seen as such by the White populace in this country for centuries - and, sadly, today, as well.

Blacks are human-beings and are due the same respect as all our fellow human beings, and human beings are not "hung" like drapes or pictures. They are HANGED. What's disappointing is that some people around here just don't understand the significance of words and what they mean, but instead feel the need to criticize people who actually do.

[kelliekat44]

95. You forgot the " " around "hanged." nt

[BlueCaliDem]

97. Remedied! eom

[JaneyVee]

2. Here's a good article on understanding why...

And this dynamic is still playing out in America today: https://medium.com/message/how-white-people-got-made-6eeb076ade42

[Petrushka]

11. Thanks for the link!

[OneGrassRoot]

3. The last recorded lynching (by KKK) was in 1981

1981

The year I graduated from high school.

Very recent history. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Donald

There is a potential lynching story in North Carolina right now: Lennon Lacy


http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/oct/09/-sp-north-carolina-teenager-suspicious-death-lennon-lacy

[BlueCaliDem]

4. Heartbreaking photos, but necessary so that we don't forget. eom

[steve2470]

6. big kick and big rec! nt

[BlueCaliDem]

7. Kick! eom

[Vox Moi]

8. 10 Excuses is more like it.

These pictures are simply (insert your term here) and enough to make me sick.
How many blacks living today have a relative only two generations removed (or less) who was lynched?
Not counting those wrongly convicted and executed or killed by police?
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Let us white folks put that number next to the number of black people killed in defense of this country and ask ourselves if we'd do the same.

[1StrongBlackMan]

10. My Great Grandmother ...

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was lynched in 1888.

The family story has it that my Great Grandfather and his brother came home from hunting to find her cut open from the base of her neck down to just above privates, hanging from the porch awning, with the County Sheriff's badge pinned to her privates.

My Great Grand and his brother went into the house, cleaned and loaded all of their weapons. Then, cut down and buried his woman (they weren't officially married). Then, they went into town and killed the sheriff and 15 towns folk that got in their way.

My Great Grand and his brother, then, hopped trains ... one headed East, the other headed West; but, not before shooting their baby brother, who was with the posse chasing after them.

[Marrah_G]

14. Oh my!!!!!!!!!!

So much tragedy in that story....

[1StrongBlackMan]

17. Wow ...

Someone alerted me to the B.S. that is the Discussionist. Someone did a "Cool Story, Bro" response to my post. Folks there are demanding proof because something like this would have certainly appeared on google.

I wonder what proof would suffice? It's not like1880s small town Alabama newspapers would have covered it as anything but a "negroes gone crazy" story, if at all.

But that said, in the early 70s, there was a movie made that closely followed my family's rendition of events. I will not link to the film because my family was involved in it's making and I don't want to have to deal with the assholes that will follow ... I have a lot of my Great Grand in me.

[bitchkitty]

24. They are obsessed with DU.

They troll it constantly, hands down their pants (no doubt) looking for something to post. They have no ideas or mind of their own. They're racist pieces of shit.

[JustAnotherGen]

28. If they want that

They can certainly come here and 'demand' it. That's if they can survive MIRT.

I suspect they will just slither off on their bellies and go back to the holes they hide in so they don't show their user names here.

[MrScorpio]

38. Trust me, I know how you feel

A couple of them accused me of lying about the fact that Joe Louis (Barrow), the boxer, is my grandmother's brother. I even pointed out that I attended the family reunion this year… With a Facebook link and with pics of me attending it. I'm not who I say I am, and that I merely found and pasted pics from Google to perpetrate a fraud.

Riiight.

I wonder if they think that I'm faking the family resemblance too…

[1StrongBlackMan]

41. Of course ...

You woke up one morning and decided that you would fabricate a lie, with a complete back story, just so you could see if you could pull one over on a bunch of anonymous folks on the internets!

BTW, the DUer that alerted me to the B.S. that is the Discussionist, invited/encouraged me to play in that sand box ... I initially responded that I have all the racial insensitivity that I can handle here on DU and begged off. However, last night, I pretty much decided that I'll dive in.

Look for me ... I'll be the guy with the tag-line: "Vandalizing Lawn Jockeys, and mocking those that have them since 1980"!

[MrScorpio]

43. Take it in moderation, that's my advice to you.

I've scaled my participation waaaay back some time ago. If you want to know what you're in store for, I've written a couple of essays on my experience there. I can show them to you if you like.

Things haven't changed much since I wrote them, other than it's gotten progressively worse.

[1StrongBlackMan]

45. Yeah ...

I read your posts about the B.S. that is the Discussionist.

I particularly liked your exploding heads with your commentary on Black conservatives!

[MrScorpio]

46. Its amazing that they can't see how black cons are playing them for suckers

But I guess that's how the con works. It takes two to play, those who take and those others who choose to get taken.

[1StrongBlackMan]

47. Yep! n/t

[steve2470]

19. wow...so tragic...

Thank you for relating that family history. It helps people like me understand things even better.

[1StrongBlackMan]

21. That is how my Grandfather came to be of Indiana, PA. ...

They mined coal and ended up buying a mountain top that they ended up donating land that became the University of Indiana, Pennsylvania's campus.

I'm proud of my family history.

[steve2470]

22. very very cool nt

[JustAnotherGen]

27. Wow 1Strong

Just - wow. And I 100% believe - my dad was from the Talladega area.

[gollygee]

29. Wow.

Just wow!

[DawgHouse]

63. Horrendous!

I just wanted to say that I believe your family story. Not everything is documented. So sorry that you find this tragedy in your family history.

[LeftInTX]

9. Depressing....

No words

[bravenak]

12. Sadly kicking.

[appalachiablue]

13. Horrible part of our history to be known. Activist IDA B. WELLS publicized US lynchings

in Europe where she travelled late 19th c. Didn't know this until DUer recently posted.
What trivial justifications/ offenses for murder. It occurred to me how ironic the initial Michael Brown Ferguson offense was- cop Wilson telling him and friend to get on the Sidewalk, and out of the Street. In the Jim Crow Era blacks had to step off the Sidewalk and into the Street to defer to whites. Evil.

[rug]

16. Maybe you should use the article's original headline instead.

[1StrongBlackMan]

18. Kicked for more to see.

[freshwest]

23. +1

[Skidmore]

30. I can't breathe...

I seriously can't breathe after going through that article.

We (all people who believe in justice and equality) cannot back down nor can we go back.

A smiley or some emotive internet shorthand cannot express the hurt in the heart or the anger those pictures bring with them.

[Feral Child]

31. Billie Holiday "Strange Fruit" WARNING: Disturbing Images!

Warning: Extremely disturbing images.

I first heard this done by Nina Simone. Hurt then and still hurts every time I hear this song.



I'll follow with a Nina Simone number, "Mississippi Goddam"

[Bluenorthwest]

35. A link to America's Black Holocaust Museum's Memorial to the Victims of Lynching

This site is an amazing resource.
http://abhmuseum.org/category/lynching-victims-memorial/

[Skidmore]

37. Thank you for the link.

What is truly jarring is that this represents just a portion of the victims of slavery and Jim Crow.

[BlueJazz]

36. The same thing is going on in this day and age. It's just on a much more subtle level.

...and not as obvious. True, the death is not as swift but over a black persons life....almost as real.

[Feral Child]

39. Several years ago

in a consignment flea market in Cave Springs, GA I stumbled across a packet of photos of a community picnic.

Blankets and checkered table cloths were spread on the grass. Families lounged around them, some clearly snacking on grapes and other food. Oldsters, men, women. Children.

Many cars were parked nearby, all clearly from the '30s.

In the background stood a group of about 10-15 Klansmen, posing for the camera under a tree, faces hooded.

From a branch of the large tree, an oak I believe, 2 young black men were suspended by ropes around their necks, bare feet some 3' from the ground.

I forced myself to look at all 7 photos, then stood moments more, gaining control of my emotions. Once calm, I approached the middle-aged white woman at the register and purchased the packet for $3.50, 50 cents each. The woman glanced at the photos then slipped them into a plastic bag.

When I got the receipt I asked for a pen and printed, "Shame on you for profiting from this horror." then handed it back to her, asking that she give it to the owner of the photos. She took it without comment.

Once home, I mailed them to the MLK Center in Atlanta as an anonymous donation.

[LeftinOH]

42. The 1st image shown isn't from the deep South. It's Marion Indiana, 1930.

Maybe something of an anomaly in terms of location, but notable for (possibly) being the inspiration for "Strange Fruit".

"In 1937 Abel Meeropol, a Jewish schoolteacher from New York and the adoptive father of the sons of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, saw a copy of Beitler's 1930 photograph. Meeropol later said that the photograph "haunted me for days" and inspired his poem "Bitter Fruit". It was published in 1937 under te pseudonym Lewis Allan. Meeropol set his poem to music, renaming it "Strange Fruit." He performed it at a labor meeting in Madison Square Garden. In 1939 it was performed, recorded and popularized by American singer Billie Holiday."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_of_Thomas_Shipp_and_Abram_Smith

[1StrongBlackMan]

44. Can we talk about ...

The destruction of "Black Wall street"?

http://sfbayview.com/2011/02/what-happened-to-black-wall-street-on-june-1-1921/

It was about lynching; but, much more.

[gollygee]

61. I'd never heard of that before

What a sad part of US history. Thanks for sharing.

[1StrongBlackMan]

62. Yes, it was ...

this country has a long history of destroying Black wealth. Tulsa did it violently; but in most cities, it was called "Urban Renewal."

[BlueCaliDem]

84. You should make an OP about Black Wall Street, 1SBM. I know about Rosewood in FLA, but not about

"Black Wall Street" which did a lot better than Rosewood, yet is not well-known among Americans and never presented as one of the great successes of Blacks in America.

We need more positive stories about the entrepreneurial successes of the Black community in our country. I'm so sick and tired of hearing and reading that "Blacks are lazy" and crap like that, when our history shows, even in the face of deep racism and income inequality, Blacks have been highly successful - until the envious White populace decided to destroy that wealth and impoverish the community and her people again. Then these sanctimonious Whites turn around and point fingers, accusing Blacks of being "lazy" and unwilling to pull themselves up in society.

We need LOTS of positive stories of the Black community, even around here on a Democratic Party supporting site. Hopefully, we can bring back some disenchanted Black DUers.

[1StrongBlackMan]

85. Will do ...

In fact ...

When I get time, I'll post an OP a day about the literally hundreds of successful Black Town to were founded, run and prospered under Black governance in the pre and post-civil war era.

Here's a start:

http://digital.library.okstate.edu/encyclopedia/entries/A/AL009.html

and,

http://www.theroot.com/photos/2011/01/black_towns_in_america_disappeared_from_the_history_books.html

[BlueCaliDem]

87. Thanks so much, 1SBM. I've bookmarked and will read and use as reference when dealing

with impossible posters who are hellbent on painting a negative picture of Black Americans. I'm looking forward to your OP about Black Wall Street.

[BlueCaliDem]

88. It's a shame that Black towns were disappeared from our history books

by the majority in this country who write history and school textbooks. It's not only a shame, but a disgrace because we know the motivation behind it - keeping the White race superior by any and all means, by denigrating and/or downplaying the success of minorities in our society.

Unfortunately, the result has been that too many Blacks fell for this rotten ploy and feel disadvantaged when they should actually feel empowered and proud by the history of successes of those who came before them in a time when they were faced with open and aggressive racism and huge economical disadvantages, and have booked successes beyond most people's dreams for that time.

Today, there are plenty of Black people who are millionaires (sports stars) and billionaires (Tyler Perry, for one) who have the means to quickly revive cities and towns like Rosewood and Greenwood across the country (Black Wall Street) and lift the disenchanted Black youth out of their disadvantaged situations. With unemployment highest among our Black fellow Americans, they can and they should.

[1StrongBlackMan]

89. Yes,

History is just that HIS-(s)tory.

Today, there are plenty of Black people who are millionaires (sports stars) and billionaires (Tyler Perry, for one) who have the means to quickly revive cities and towns like Rosewood and Greenwood across the country (Black Wall Street) and lift the disenchanted Black youth out of their disadvantaged situations. With unemployment highest among our Black fellow Americans, they can and they should.

But why would they?

[BlueCaliDem]

91. Because it's the right thing to do and their sons and daughters need them

more than ever in this increasingly racist society where they're judged just by the color of their skin which stops them from getting the better paying jobs. We've seen the documentaries and studies. This is no myth. It's real.

Our Black youth need powerful and successful role models to look up to, admire, so that a desire to "be like them" is bred inside them. Influential and wealthy Blacks can do this. They can join resources and open well-paying jobs for our youth's parents, help fund businesses owned and operated by Blacks. Our Black youth need access to good housing, parents who are happy because they have well-paying jobs and don't need to find three in order to make ends meet, quality education, access to good-paying summer jobs for them while they finish school and keep good-paying jobs when they finish schooling without being discriminated against - which happens more than we'd like to admit. Is it too much to ask to have a fair shot at life just like everybody else? Sadly, though, it's not happening now. Instead, all they get is blame and finger-pointing for circumstances beyond their control, and I'm effing sick and tired of it. Now's the time for wealthy and influential Blacks to step to the plate and create a nationwide Black Wall Street. They have the brains, the money, and access to make it a success.

I believe wealthy Blacks in our country can do a lot for their struggling sons and daughters since no one else seems to want to give them a fair shot. That's all they have ever asked for. That's all they desire: a fair shot at making it in life, for them and their families. This, in turn, will make those Black investors even more proud of their race as they see the good results that will come from being the great tide that lifts all boats.

[1StrongBlackMan]

93. I get what you are saying; but ...

the sons and daughters of those Black millionaires/billionaires are well taken care of. And just like in the white community, it is the rare individual that feels a calling to do for others ... even as it is the right thing to do.

Sadly, the concept of the "Talented Tenth" is no longer taught outside of HUBCs and the "Divine Nine." ... It was a casualty of integration.

[BlueCaliDem]

94. What are "HUBCs"? See? I learn something new every day.

As for those Black millionaires and billionaires seeing only to their sons and daughters...could it be that they've bought into the same stereotype as Whites have about our Black youth? Could it have, at least, seeped into their subconscious mind and that's why they appear not to want to find ways to improve the lives of our struggling Black youth?

I would wager that it does have a lot to do with their reluctance to do the right thing; doing what's right that will lift Blacks of all ages up by just giving them a fair shot in this country.

[1StrongBlackMan]

99. HBCUs = Historically Black Colleges and Universities ...

And the "Divine Nine" is the collective name for the Nine predominantly African-American Fraternities and Sororities.

As for those Black millionaires and billionaires seeing only to their sons and daughters...could it be that they've bought into the same stereotype as Whites have about our Black youth?

While that certainly may be the case; but, my experience has it a far more simple explanation ... Black millionaires/billionaires are "afflicted" with the same "Me-ism", as any other group. They worked hard and sacrificed much to get where they are/have what they have, and they feel no particular obligation to give back of what they earned.

Further, the more they give, the more they are expected to give ... and what, other than self-satisfaction are they getting in return? A bunch of other folks asking for something.

Lastly, the closer one gets to real money/power, the more pressure one feels to distance themselves from those without money/power ... that's how they have been taught/told to make more/keep their wealth.

[myrna minx]

98. I've never heard this this before. I think it would make an informative OP.

[1StrongBlackMan]

100. As I promised in #85 ...

When I get some time, I will post OPs about the hundreds of Black Towns/Settlements that were founded, grew and prospered under Black governance ... most of which met the same fate ... Or, were "Urban Renewaled."

[KansDem]

55. Some background on No. 9...

The two victims were mother and son.

Laura and L.D. Nelson (born 1878 and 1897)[2] were an African-American mother and son who were lynched on May 25, 1911, near Okemah, the county seat of Okfuskee County, Oklahoma.[3]

Laura, her husband Austin, their teenage son L.D., and possibly their child had been taken into custody after George Loney, Okemah's deputy sheriff, and three others arrived at the Nelsons' home on May 2, 1911, to investigate the theft of a cow. The son shot Loney, who was hit in the leg and bled to death; Laura was reportedly the first to grab the gun and was charged with murder, along with her son. Her husband pleaded guilty to larceny, and was sent to the relative safety of the state prison in McAlester. The son L.D. Nelson was held in the county jail in Okemah and the mother Laura in a cell in the nearby courthouse to await trial.[4]

At around midnight on May 24, Laura and L.D. Nelson were both kidnapped from their cells by a group of between a dozen and 40 men; the group included Charley Guthrie (1879–1956), the father of folk singer Woody Guthrie (1912–1967), according to a statement given in 1977 by the former's brother.[5] The Crisis, the magazine of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, said in July 1911 that Laura was raped, then she and L.D. were hanged from a bridge over the North Canadian River.[6] According to some sources, Laura had a baby with her at the time, who one witness said survived the attack.[7]

Sightseers gathered on the bridge the following morning and photographs of the hanging bodies were sold as postcards; the one of Laura is the only known surviving photograph of a female lynching victim.[8] No one was ever charged with the murders; the district judge convened a grand jury, but the killers were never identified.[9] Although Woody Guthrie was not born until 14 months after the lynching, the photographs and his father's reported involvement had a lasting effect on him, and he wrote several songs about the killings.[10]

The Nelsons were among at least 4,743 people lynched in the United States between 1888 and 1968, 3,446 (72.7 percent) of them black, 73 percent of them in the South, around 150 of them women.[11]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_of_Laura_and_L.D._Nelson

[YarnAddict]

56. Horrifying. n/t

[WinkyDink]

66. "Hanged." I don't care if it was pointed out up-thread; I must say it. It's not a difficult rule.

[Feral Child]

68. K&R

packman, I'm seriously sorry that Peace Nikki attempted to derail your thread over a quibble. Seems she was wrong after all.


The message of your thread is terribly important and I understood and appreciate what you're saying. Some folks don't get it, but most of us surely do.


Thanks.

[madokie]

72. I think embarrassment had something to do with it

after what the white man had been doing to the black man for so long was too much for many white people to come to terms with so continue to mistreat them was the only thing the white people know. Its kind of a convoluted view I'm trying to get out there with this reply.
I'm white btw.
My grandfather fought in the civil war to free the slaves even though his family was originally from Georgia but lived in Mississippi when the war happened.

White people need to come to grips with what our ancestors did to the blacks so we can get past this racism, same can be applied to the Native Americans. We're ashamed of what our past holds concerning mistreating people of color. we have to come to terms with all this or we'll never get over it. First you have to admit there is a problem to be able to correct it. Admitting is where we need to start and what we haven't done yet. IMHO


When I type 'we' I mean us white people.

[TeeYiYi]

75. Regarding the history of African Americans, slavery and race relations in white Christian America...

...I'll just leave this here.

Colossians 3:22

Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything you do. Try to please them all the time, not just when they are watching you. Serve them sincerely because of your reverent fear of the Lord.

http://biblehub.com/colossians/3-22.htm

TYY

[Dawson Leery]

76. kick

[TeeYiYi]

78. Slavery by Another Name: The Re-Enslavement of Black Americans from the Civil War to World War II...

...is a book by American writer Douglas A. Blackmon, published by Anchor Books in 2008. It was well received by critics and became a New York Times Best Seller. In 2009, it was awarded the Pulitzer Prize for General Non-Fiction, and in 2011, was adapted into a documentary film for PBS.

(Watch the entire documentary here--->> Slavery by Another Name at PBS.org)



It explores the forced labor of imprisoned black men and women through the convict lease system used by states, local governments, white farmers, and corporations after the American Civil War until World War II in the southern United States. Blackmon argues slavery in the United States did not end with the Civil War, but instead persisted well into the 20th century.

More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_by_Another_Name

TYY

[TeeYiYi]

80. kick

TYY

[steve2470]

86. It's a very simple thing, change your title please to "hanged"

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Then we can all put that to rest. Thanks.

eta: Otherwise, it's a great article and thanks for posting it!

[deutsey]

92. Baldwin's story "Going to Meet the Man"

is an excellent (albeit disturbing) exploration of the psychology behind lynchings.

[AverageJoe90]

96. The hatred & corruption down there was just unbelievable.

Indeed, lynched just for skipping stones across a pond, or a little gambling?!? This was basically murder, no question about it.

[Blue_Tires]

101. k+r

[bravenak]

102. The curtains I hung.

The man I hanged.

If you ever read ASOIAF, there is a chapter where the Frey girl that was married to Lancel, i believe, says ' They hung my father!' Her mother's response is to say, 'Hanged, dear. People are not tapestry.' Or something like that. I paraphrased. It made me laugh so hard, because I tend to appreciate grammar.

[BlueCaliDem]

103. The OP has been asked many times to change the word - a word that doesn't appear in the original

article. The word used in the article he links to is "lynched".

Her mother's response is to say, 'Hanged, dear. People are not tapestry.'

That's right - and the reason behind my asking the author of the OP to please change the word - unless, of course, he believes those poor Blacks in those gruesome photographs aren't really people. He has continued to refuse to change it...and I do recall asking nicely.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5938215

[bravenak]

104. Some people around here refuse to understand things.

No mattet how many time you tell them. I figured i'd provide him with an anecdote to help him understand. People are not tapestry and black people are included in people. This person will not understand.