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When Crowley asked him about the report, he replied that foreign governments had warned the US that its release would cause violence.
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Rogers goes on to compare the Senate report on CIA torture to the Danish caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad in 2006, suggesting it holds similar potential for provoking violence. (Rogers is going to give Limbaugh a run for his money!) I think we may just dismiss this comparison as silly. The torture report will embarrass the US intelligence services, not insult Muslims sacred figures.
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He then says that the torture program was ceased while Bush was still president, and that Congress has taken action to stop torture. Then he says President Obama issued an executive order halting it.
But why did Obama have to stop something that wasnt going on?
Again, this line of argument is what magicians call misdirection. That the torture at some point stopped does not relieve the government of accountability for it before the people. Laws were broken, despite what lying liars like John Yoo were happy to tell the Bush administration.
more:
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/gop_squirms_at_release_of_cia_torture_report_warns_of_violence_20141208
Gman
(24,780 posts)And proper action should be taken to prosecute those responsible for the war crimes.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)... this is what you get.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)... on these crimes and hold those responsible accountable.
To fail in this regard will only encourage future administrations to commit acts of torture.
Let the healing begin.
postulater
(5,075 posts)summerschild
(725 posts)crawl on the face of the earth saying they were right to do as they did, we will have a fierce need to publish this. Long as they beat their chests they were right. Let them die without cover.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)When the torturers see not only themselves but their entire families publicly ostracized, it may give pause to future psychopaths who think such behavior is socially acceptable.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)When photos of Abu Ghraib were released they were used as a recruiting tool for Al Qaeda. Does that mean they shouldn't have been released? Of course not. One has to weigh the benefits of release against the costs. I wouldn't be surprised if the report's release has some negative consequences. Maybe it will even trigger some violence. I doubt anyone can say for sure what will happen. If government officials were more contrite and interested in accountability, there would be less danger of an angry response. But when we have the President saying stupid things like calling those responsible for torture patriots and such, it doesn't send the right message at home or abroad.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Thank you, kpete.
turbinetree
(24,703 posts)Mike Rogers is not only disingenuous, but is factually not TRUE and he sits on the committee and should be challenged and IMPEACHED, he knows as we all do what happened in some form or degree until this report is released.
But Crowley should have deferred his response and ask: Do you think the damaged caused by the war criminals called Bush and Cheney and crew based on lie, should they not be brought before the Hague and tried, because of the ramifications of the future battles that will inevitably occur?
The insult is that a administration within certain media groups and moderators with the HELP of the CIA, DIA and other agencies even did this, and if one of the soldiers working for this country get captured is unspeakable, the fault squarely lies on those that voted for this war's based on lies, there target was for those that did 9/11.
And the nature of the media of letting those responsible (Bush and Crew and other agencies) off the hook is outrageous on its face, because they also failed
heaven05
(18,124 posts)if this report is not seriously redacted, will finally be seen for what they were/are, WAR CRIMINALS deserving to be in the docket at the International Court of Justice in the Hague. 9/11 does not excuse this barbarity. I am still shaking my head at those two buildings collapsing and at how the war criminals used those collapses as a way to abridged MY rights, kill hundreds of thousands of totally innocent men, women and children and keep us involved in war that is still going on in Iraq 12 years later. I won't go into the other war, right now.
librechik
(30,674 posts)And they did. And they will.
Let me tell you the number of indictments that will come out of the release of the "Torture Paper"
ZERO
How many investigative committee meetings will Issa (or anyone else in our GOP Congress) hold about it?
ZERO
It's almost as if they planned it that way.
kentuck
(111,098 posts)Completely overhaul the entire CIA. Remove any and all people with any connection to the spying and theft of documents from our Congress.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)is dead.
staggerleem
(469 posts)... a week or two after at least ONE of the banksters who crashed the economy ahead of the 2008 election gets sent to jail.
I hope you'll forgive me if I don't hold my breath waiting for EITHER of those events to happen.
malaise
(269,020 posts)Fugg 'em royally
staggerleem
(469 posts)So what Mr. Rogers is "informing" us about is that violence breeds further violence. Well, thanks for clearing that up, Mikey!
Now, maybe you can tell us something that we didn't already know?