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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEver notice all the sociopathic scum that posts on Youtube?
I've notice countless times when the cruelest of comments are made - even in response to tragedies.
In this particular case that is actually not at all that uncommon - there was news story about a 14 year-old-boy who
committed suicide after being bullied following the release on a social network sight of a hidden video that went viral that
reportedly showed him masturbating in a restroom stall.
What kind of monsters is our society creating? Here are some of the most popular comments in response to this youtube
video news story:
QuinPaperwasp3
LMAO. this is so funny. he just killed himself over a video. this teen is pathetic. what a coward. i hope he's burnt. +10 votes.
skillcoiler2
If the parents get a single dime from the school I will stop paying taxes fuck these parents. They should have taught their kid not to wank it in a public place if getting caught was going to make him so crybaby he would kill himself over it.+12 votes.
Sonny DaGuy
We live in a generation of sensitivity and we can't hurt the next person's feelings. This is what our government is teaching today's generation. So we as parents should teach our kids to be a little tougher ,to stand up and take a stand against the sensitivity bullshit they're teaching our kids in school. it's really sad what happen to the boy, we should understand that whatever we do nowadays will be recorded by some type of cell phone or video tape and will be posted online. If you don't want it to be online don't do it out in public. R.I.P. KID
steve2470
(37,457 posts)When I was a kid/young man, trolling was considered to be complete asshole behavior, so one didn't do it. These days, it seems to be considered cool by some. The kids under 18 who do it, ok, they can be excused on maturity grounds and educated NOT to do it. The adults...what can I say ? Sociopathic/narcissistic/sadistic...trolling.... Also, RW thought processes and just plain nasty meanness that usually gets unspoken.
Derek V
(532 posts)But I actually misunderstood the angle of your headline. Yes, we live in a mean-spirited society, but I thought you were saying that the comments section of YouTube was the trolling culture, akin to the 9th circle of Hell, which it is!
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Anyone here who has done a turn or two on MIRT are familiar with some of DU's more enthusiastic return customers.
Sissyk
(12,665 posts)Good call.
librechik
(30,674 posts)better now than any time in history
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)100 years ago a lynching was considered good weekend entertainment in some areas.
Now assholes have an internet connection, but the internet connection didn't invent the assholes.
As for this horrible tragedy-- I'm not a legal expert, but I do know that some jurisdictions are more than enthusiastic to arrest teens for taking nude pictures of themselves and sending them to their bf/gf, and charge them with production & distribution of underage porn.
So-- If this video is what is described, how the everloving fuck are the people who took it, posted it, and shared it not under arrest yet? They should be.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Derek V
(532 posts)And so does this guy:
7962
(11,841 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I think that is what they call.... a self-evident truth.
Still, these kids today have been exhorted to get off the old duffer's lawn since the days of Socrates. Ever was it thus.
seaglass
(8,171 posts)charged under CA anti-bullying laws. Anyone who posted and shared it should have some sort of punishment. It is the only way kids are going to stop with this - to know that if they pass around this stuff they are just as liable as the one who videoed it.
No idea why people think just because their phone has a camera that they have ANY right to invade another person's privacy. It's just disgusting. I am so glad not to be a teenager it is 100 X more horrendous than it was when I was one. There may not be any more assholes than there were in the past but the assholes now have much bigger megaphones and that does make a difference.
belzabubba333
(1,237 posts)is because theyre kids and the do stupid stuff - they shouldnt be allowed to have adult toys - cell phone ok for text and calls but nothing else
seaglass
(8,171 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I don't think people are worse, though, or kids for that matter. At least now school bullying is widely acknowledged as a thing, a detrimental thing, and not just something that people are supposed to "suck it up and take it", as we were told back when I was growing up.
riversedge
(70,239 posts)vile crap that many get away with it.
belzabubba333
(1,237 posts)So-- If this video is what is described, how the everloving fuck are the people who took it, posted it, and shared it not under arrest yet? They should be
daleanime
(17,796 posts)you don't care what you use it on.
Ford_Prefect
(7,901 posts)Sick puppies have always found it necessary to express their pain and anger, though they create more pain in doing so.
Now there is a new class of emotional assassin whose paid job it is to make sure those most vulnerable and those who sympathize with them are further victimized online. Their work is to ramp up the hatred and direct it at any person or belief their paymasters assign them. They are the professional bullies who show up at any disaster ready to pour more gasoline on the flames.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)WhiteAndNerdy
(365 posts)Sometimes I want to send someone a link to a video, but I hesitate if it's someone who is sensitive to profanity, because the comments are often really vile and vulgar.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)I don't go out of my way to read or look at that slim. Why invite negative, depressing thoughts into my mind?
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)whack off in the boys' room on a regular basis (except me, of course-- I would never have thought to so such a thing). It used to be understood that this was never discussed, although jokes were made. Biology is biology, however, and if you don't have memories of those days... well, maybe you're better off.
But now they're taking videos? How, if there's a door on the stall?
They're "thinking of" charges against the little piece of shit who took the video? Once upon a time some kids like this had a big brother who beat the bejesus out of anyone who tried a stunt like that. Charges should be automatic-- if it was a girl in the video the screaming would melt the clouds, as well it should.
I'm not sure why the parents had no clue while this was going on, but kids often hide their problems and the school was no help. Sue the school and round up every little shit who passed the video around and shame the piss out of them for being such assholes. If they do this now, what kind of stunts will they pull as adults? And what next will the school try to ignore?
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)meanit
(455 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)in a lot of people. But they were mostly assholes to begin with.
MerryBlooms
(11,769 posts)This is a long read, but a good one about moderators for the big sites.
Warning: Graphic printed material.
http://www.wired.com/2014/10/content-moderation/
Trillo
(9,154 posts)the folks posting "the crap" could have PTSD, while the moderator believes they get it from watching "the crap" they must moderate.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)That teenage boy should never have had to go through this. The school, parents and the kids who took part in this bullying that lead to suicide all ought to be arrested.
Make the parents pay for their childrens hideous activity and that will get this shit to stop, right fucking quick. If the parents were in any way made aware of this, by ANYONE, and they didn't stop it, they are failures as parents and deserve punishment for their inaction. And now the parents of these lovely little darlings will pay lawyers fees and fear their blessed little one will end up in jail. GOOD, they ought to fear that.
Ykcutnek
(1,305 posts)But now they have an outlet, where they're free to be as disgusting as they please without the social and physical consequences they'd face if they acted this way in public.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)But then, I've never read comments on YouTube. You just pointed out the reason why.
I think that the freedom to post anonymously removes social filters and often brings out the worst in people. I think the dominant culture in the U.S. supports sociopathic tendencies, and those tendencies are given free reign in an anonymous setting.
So I don't read online comments for most sites. Because I don't appreciate managed propaganda, I don't watch or listen to tv or radio "news" or talk.
I do post on DU. A long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, I was delighted to find someplace I could speak freely. I've spent my entire adult life living in right-wing strongholds, and negotiating the political climate with great care. It was refreshing to speak my mind without being attacked.
That was then, this is now. Since '08, I've suddenly become too far left for THIS board. Anonymity means that I don't negotiate with that same kind of care, though; I still speak my mind. For the most part, I try to keep it civil, rarely giving into the urge to say what I really think, which sometimes would result in personal attacks. Anonymity is seductive, though.
Trillo
(9,154 posts)Those could be corporate posters, part of the effort to convince the public that the Internet should not be interactive, or a place where regular folks can express themselves, part of the effort of "Censorship," part of insuring Corporations are the only entities that can "speak out."
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I have nothing but the greatest respect for those who are brave enough to commit suicide.
I am NOT being sarcastic. I hope they found the happiness that was so elusive for them in life.
~~~
I think evolution failed us, we should simply be able to think, "I don't want to be here," and like magic, we disappear.
Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)Anonymity simply brings out who they really are, their parents and their fellow schoolmates taught them to wear a mask in public, but many people are fundamentally nihilists and sociopaths -- the average citizen, especially the people who aspire to run our country -- because they are taught to wear a mask and PRETEND to care about other people when they really don't, as seen in their online comments about whatever news item is out there. So you're simply learning what "the other side thinks" -- the people who were raised in a culture of violence, consumerism and selfishness.
And yeah, these are the same people who are responsible for the bullying itself, which led to the kid's suicide. Bullying which happens in MOST schools EVERY single time something like this happens. What does that tell you?
Tells me the "enemy" is every other person you'll meet.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)One thing that fascinates me about the brony community is that most simply refuse to engage the trolls and shitheels. Deprived of reaction they tend to dry up and blow away.
"Don't Feed The Trolls" is some of the wisest advice there is.
Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)[div style="overflow:hidden"][div style="margin-top:-65px"]
The Internet before ponies:
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)or the brony bashers?
So true.
Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)Based on a Harlan Ellison story, "I Have No Mouth - And I Must Scream". About as family-friendly as your average 90s-era computer game.
The Internet after ponies: (or coffee?)
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hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Thanks! /)*(\
Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)YouTube, Yahoo, Reddit, Tumblr, your local newspaper comment board....
Anywhere that moderation isn't a priority, this happens.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)People who pass this crap on like a virus are what makes this crap go viral, get it? It's a bad idea.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)trolling the asshole- Of course homophobic comments and rape threats then become the norm
Coy Sutherland3 weeks ago I like your chocolate nipplesRead moreShow less
Reply · 2QuinPaperwasp3 weeks ago +Coy Sutherland
a shadow is under the wasp in my picture not chocolate nipples, you fucking dunce.Read moreShow less
Reply · 1tracy twoshirts2 weeks ago i hope you die you pathetic piece of dog shit.Read moreShow less
Reply · Coy Sutherland2 weeks ago I wasn't talk about about your picture retard I was just giving my opinion on you chocolate nipplesRead moreShow less
Reply · 1QuinPaperwasp2 weeks ago +Coy Sutherland
i don't have chocolate nipples. i'm not the kid in the video, you ignoramus.Read moreShow less
Reply · 2QuinPaperwasp2 weeks ago (edited) +tracy twoshirts
how are you going to assassinate me? knife me? nope.Read moreShow less
Reply · 2Coy Sutherland2 weeks ago I think this guy is so dumb that he likes his own comments O.o
QuinPaperwasp2 weeks ago (edited) +Coy Sutherland
holy shit, when are you guys ever going to stop fucking whining about me liking my own comments?Read moreShow less
Reply · 2Ryan Yankoviak2 weeks ago I dont care what you say, you would have probably done it too, if it happened to you.Read moreShow less
Reply · tracy twoshirts2 weeks ago hopefully you will choke on some food while you are all alone and it shuts your smart ass up FOR GOOD.Read moreShow less
Reply · QuinPaperwasp1 week ago +tracy twoshirts
go into a fucking attic, and write a diary about your whining, little sob story, freak.Read moreShow less
Reply · 1QuinPaperwasp1 week ago (edited) +Ryan Yankoviak
here's your theme tune:
"suckin' da cock. suckin' da cock. suckin' da cock. suckin' da cock."Read moreShow less
Reply · lpsbunnylover231 week ago +QuinPaperwasp you dick head shut the funk up dumb ass dip shitRead moreShow less
Reply · QuinPaperwasp1 week ago +lpsbunnylover23
your army is full of a bunch of worthless cocksuckers.Read moreShow less
Reply · 1MrCraftingDiamonds1 week ago Dude you know what get off the internet or stop offending people
lpsbunnylover231 week ago +QuinPaperwasp well at least I have a army dick sucker go live a dumb lie your full of shitRead moreShow less
Reply · QuinPaperwasp1 week ago +lpsbunnylover23
you're a pathetic, stupid cocksucker.Read moreShow less
Reply · 1LPS little monsters 1011 week ago You don't really know how you would feel how it would ACTUALLY happened to youRead moreShow less
Reply · 1tracy twoshirts1 week ago i have heard better comebacks from a 4th grader. sad thing is you sit around waiting to talk shit probably because no one wants to talk to you any other time. you are a sad, pathetic, little person. i feel sorry for you.Read moreShow less
Reply · tracy twoshirts1 week ago PS anne frank would kick your ass if she was still alive today.Read moreShow less
Reply · QuinPaperwasp1 week ago +tracy twoshirts
why are you bringing up Anne Frank? you're obsessing over her so much. you're becoming gross junk.Read moreShow less
Reply · 1QuinPaperwasp1 week ago +LPS little monsters 101 another kid will drown.Read moreShow less
Reply · 1CynicalHDNinjas1 week ago 2 words.... FUCK YOU!! I hope that you get kidnapped and rapped and your neck slit and left to die and choke on your own black blood, and when you die I'm going to show up to your "funeral" and piss and spit on your fucking body!!! That's all ^-^Read moreShow less
Reply · Alodium Aloe1 week ago +CynicalHDNinjas
.......lovely
TRCEgroup4 days ago The people should use youtube comments to thin the herd. You would be one of the first on the list.Read moreShow less
Reply · CynicalHDNinjas4 days ago What do you mean? +TRCEgroup Read moreShow less
Reply · Rhalvorson Halvorson3 days ago You.are mean so when.u die everybody else.wont careRead moreShow less
Reply · CynicalHDNinjas3 days ago Okay so i'm mean when I tell someone who said- LMAO this kid is pathetic for committing suicide.... Yep okay +Rhalvorson Halvorson
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Reply · TJVantomz3 days ago I wouldn't give shit about a video of me fapping, everyone does itRead moreShow less
Reply · TRCEgroup3 days ago +TJVantomz are you 14 years old in high school?Read moreShow less
Reply · TJVantomz3 days ago +TRCEgroup I'm 13 years old
In america nearly every commits suicide over nothing. I mean come on, fucking cowards. There is always a solution.
The Netherlands aren't like it. If you don't want to get bullied, get buffed. Nobody will even TRY to pick on youRead moreShow less
Reply · TRCEgroup3 days ago +TJVantomz oh I c. Nearly every commits suicide? What? You are just showing why your opinion has 0 merit.Read moreShow less
Reply · TJVantomz3 days ago +TRCEgroup Most americans have little problems and are like uhuuu.. Let's kill myself over being poor, Let's kill myself over being bullied. Do something about it. Let's kill myself cuz I'm fat! I mean if you don't want to be fat, work out you fucking lazy people
TRCEgroup2 days ago +TJVantomz wtf are you talking about? Pretending to know another's struggle is shows your immaturity. You are 13 on youtube making fun of dead people and you think you are better. Love it.Read moreShow less
Reply · TJVantomz2 days ago +TRCEgroup When did you see I was making fun of dead people? And when did I think I was better? I am saying Americans are crybabiesRead moreShow less
Reply · TRCEgroup2 days ago +TJVantomz and you are to stupid to realize what you are saying. Stay in school kid. What do you know about Americans? Based on your logic should I now think that everyone from the Netherlands are as dumb and ill informed as you?Read moreShow less
Reply · TJVantomz2 days ago +TRCEgroup And how exactly am I dumb. For understanding the Americans, anyways, how can you go so far on a child. I basicly rekt you already my friend ;]Read moreShow less
Reply · TRCEgroup2 days ago +TJVantomz If showing your hick backround and immature stupid ways of making fun of dead people and an entire country of people is "rekt" then yes you "rekt" me good.Read moreShow less
Reply · TJVantomz2 days ago +TRCEgroup How in hell am I making fun of dead people?
Btw rekt is a gamers term for wrecked.
Your probably too stupid too even get that.Read moreShow less
Reply · TRCEgroup2 days ago (edited) +TJVantomz So I guess all non "gamers" are stupid now? You have convinced me now more then ever how simple the Dutch are.Read moreShow less
Reply · TJVantomz2 days ago +TRCEgroup I am not saying all gamers are stupid, but come on, how hard is it to know "rekt" = Wrecked.
By the way, how is the whole Dutch community simple when I am the only one saying stuff. That's kinda bad bruh
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TRCEgroup2 days ago you are so stupid you thin because I quoted it that I do not know it. LOL FML SMH WADFRead moreShow less
Reply · TRCEgroup2 days ago go do your home work and stop acting like a troll online making fun of dead people.Read moreShow less
Reply · TJVantomz2 days ago +TRCEgroup "You have convinced me now more then ever how simple the Dutch are." Doesn't look like you don't know my friend.
And again "go do your home work and stop acting like a troll online making fun of dead people." I'm not making fun of dead peopleRead moreShow less
Reply · Luciano Vicious2 days ago +QuinPaperwasp Your chocolate nipples are amazing thoRead moreShow less
Reply · Twillight Weavile2 days ago what about the fuckers that posted the video in the first place. What punishment do they get?Read moreShow less
Reply · Not Wub Wong2 days ago +Twillight Weavile Well, if the kid wasn't a coward, their punishment should have been getting fucked over by that kid. My motto always was, "I don't get even, I get ahead.". To be completely honest I never was legitimately bullied. I got picked on a little bit in middle school but it didn't phase me too much. I can't really speak for this kid considering my good history. I was always a smart guy and fought people with logic and intimidated them with my knowledge (regardless of the fact that I did karate for 5 years). They would always back off.Read moreShow less
Reply · Rin Kagamine Ⓧ17 hours ago Really? That's what you think, in my opinion, the comment you posted was extremely heartbreaking to look at gets on adult look glasses shame on you Read moreShow less
Reply · Animal Jam Movie Productions8 hours ago Dont ever say that, Life is precious and delicate, we are all different and show our emotions differently. The fact this boy took his life because of bullying shows how cruel our world has become.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy."
Javaman
(62,530 posts)They have always been there, it's just places like youtube give them an avenue for their sociopathic brains.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)when anonymous say the most awful things.
belzabubba333
(1,237 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)not "Masterbate".
And yes, you are correct. But it's one of those things that people are often horribly embarrassed about, growing up, until you realize that everybody else does it, too.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Matrosov
(1,098 posts)I've read comments about this all over the place, and the most common sentiment seems to along the lines of, "He must have been very weak mentally if he let the comments of others get to him like that. He should've blocked the people who were harassing him on social media. The true responsibility is with his parents for not raising a tougher boy."
It shocks me and yet it doesn't shock me. I guess he 'had it coming' the same way that women who get raped supposedly 'had it coming' for dressing or acting too provocatively or the same way Michael Brown supposedly 'had it coming' for not responding to Darren Wilson with 'Yes, master. Whatever you say, master.'
This is a classic case of victim shaming, and the anonymity of the Internet and the fact people can say whatever they like without having to fear a fist coming out of their screen and at their face just makes it easier for them to spew the garbage that was already floating around in their minds.
dilby
(2,273 posts)This kid is under 18 and if he was masturbating in the video then that is child porn and those who recorded and viewed it should be charged with a crime.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)They're happy to arrest the 17 year old girl who takes a shirtless selfie and sends it to her boyfriend as a felon, but these folks apparently don't merit prosecution.
Initech
(100,079 posts)Albertoo
(2,016 posts)Mankind can lack humanity at times.