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kpete

(71,994 posts)
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 10:05 AM Dec 2014

The Grand Jury was Instructed to Indict Michael Brown---Yes, you read that right.

FRI DEC 05, 2014 AT 02:29 PM PST
The Grand Jury was Instructed to Indict Michael Brown
by VetGrl

Yes, you read that right. The grand jury was instructed to indict Michael Brown for assaulting a police officer. Not technically, of course, because Michael Brown is dead.

This is from Sheila Whirley's instructions just before the grand jury began its deliberations:

Now, what makes this a little bit different is that if you will look on page, the first page, it talks about assault of a law enforcement officer in the first degree. And that's part of the indictment because the officer is saying he was arresting him for assaulting him.

So that's what you would be considering in your deliberation and we have provided you with definitions of assault in the first degree, on the second page is assault in the second degree and the third degree. And then also a law enforcement officer's use of force in making an arrest. An officer can use force in making an arrest, got that laid out for you.


Vol. 24, page 134-35 (emphasis added). Right after that, Alizadeh jumps in to make her "correction" regarding the deadly force statute.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1370537-grand-jury-volume-24.html

This is madness.

Not that it mattered to the prosecution, but it was Wilson's burden to raise the deadly force statute as his defense. At trial.

.....................

The long and the short of it is simple: the grand jury was instructed to find that Michael Brown, a dead kid who literally cannot raise his voice in his own defense, committed a crime.
MORE:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/05/1349746/-The-Grand-Jury-was-Instructed-to-Indict-Michael-Brown
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The Grand Jury was Instructed to Indict Michael Brown---Yes, you read that right. (Original Post) kpete Dec 2014 OP
Amazingly disgusting brush Dec 2014 #1
Misery AG agrees noiretextatique Dec 2014 #2
Dead Kids Tell No Tales billhicks76 Dec 2014 #29
They did not just want a no bill Kalidurga Dec 2014 #3
Now I understand how this was really good news. CincyDem Dec 2014 #4
great one heaven05 Dec 2014 #5
I had some errrr fellow hooligan I mean JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #30
I would be careful with those christmas lawn jockeys........... wandy Dec 2014 #13
Oh, hell no. It's supposed to be a mama and a daddy and a baby japple Dec 2014 #18
Rule #1. ALWAYS USE THE SARCASM SMILIE. japple Dec 2014 #17
So it was the victim of the shooting that was on trial there. zeemike Dec 2014 #6
Yes. This is madness. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #7
Thank you to Lawrence O'Donnell SCVDem Dec 2014 #8
and he is not going to let it go! hopemountain Dec 2014 #15
Do you have a link to the O'Donnell show where this was talked about? Number23 Dec 2014 #16
No link SCVDem Dec 2014 #31
And you wonder why people don't vote? world wide wally Dec 2014 #9
isnt the grand jury supposed to provide every possible charge? Evergreen Emerald Dec 2014 #10
The expedient thing and the right thing are seldom the same og1 Dec 2014 #11
That's okay with the cop apologists here. They say the same thing about Brown. Rex Dec 2014 #12
They should be disbarred BrotherIvan Dec 2014 #14
^^^^ THIS^^^^ FourScore Dec 2014 #23
I never doubted it. sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #19
A small group really tried to keep us distracted. They seem to be absent. Rex Dec 2014 #26
I don't think they expected the outpouring of protests that have occurred. For so long they sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #27
K Cha Dec 2014 #20
got that laid out for you. underpants Dec 2014 #21
Daily I have increasing difficulty believing what had overcome our nation. Faryn Balyncd Dec 2014 #22
This is sickening. BeanMusical Dec 2014 #24
Which color pill.... Omaha Steve Dec 2014 #25
This happened in our name! loyalsister Dec 2014 #28

brush

(53,778 posts)
1. Amazingly disgusting
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 10:07 AM
Dec 2014

Racism at work in America.

And the sheeple on the jury proceeded to do just as they were instructed.

CincyDem

(6,362 posts)
4. Now I understand how this was really good news.
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 10:55 AM
Dec 2014

Here I've been thinking it was bad news that Wilson wasn't indicted when all along it's really good news for the community - the "Democratic" DA steered the grand jury away from indicting the dead black kid.

Now it all makes sense. My outrage has been assuaged. I can go back to worrying about whether Kirsty Alley will be on next year's Dancing with the Stars. God it's good to live in post racial America. Maybe next year, we'll all be able to buy lawn jockeys at Walmart for the holiday season...oh the thrill of it all.

Please, tell me I don't need this.
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
5. great one
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 11:07 AM
Dec 2014

Last edited Sun Dec 7, 2014, 09:44 AM - Edit history (2)

especially since the other day I had the same thought. I bet I'll be seeing more of those old racist lawn jockeys more and more after January 2015. I remember seeing those things for many years. Didn't know the 'difference' between the black ones and the white ones till I started learning real amerikkkan hisssssstory and thinking for myself, outside the typical educational 'box' that is.

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
30. I had some errrr fellow hooligan I mean
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 07:35 AM
Dec 2014

Fellow friends in high school that kind of went on a lawn jockey baseball spree one summer. Diverse group of hooligans - but hooligans just the same. These days - they would get shot for that - but in summer of 1990 people started painting them white in a few towns in Western NY.

I don't approve of vandalism but if that's the worse thing a bunch of snotty prep school kids could do to make a beer fueled point - ahhhh they were young then.

wandy

(3,539 posts)
13. I would be careful with those christmas lawn jockeys...........
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 01:29 PM
Dec 2014

You might be accused of being on the wrong side in the war on christmas.
It's supposed to be a baby, three old white guys and a camel huddling in the North African snow.

Tanj, even the slightest humor in this travesty requires this.

japple

(9,825 posts)
18. Oh, hell no. It's supposed to be a mama and a daddy and a baby
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 08:13 PM
Dec 2014

in a manger PLUS 3 old white men, sheep, oxen, a donkey and a camel.

You left out more than half of the cast of characters.

japple

(9,825 posts)
17. Rule #1. ALWAYS USE THE SARCASM SMILIE.
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 08:10 PM
Dec 2014

Cannot count the number of times I've been jumped on or dumped on for a sarcastic comment. Never comment in jest without the sarcasm smilie.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
6. So it was the victim of the shooting that was on trial there.
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 11:31 AM
Dec 2014

In any fair and just society that prosecutor would be fired...but instead they will be rewarded with some political job I would bet.
Our system if full of corruption and I refuse to just put it off to incompetence.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
8. Thank you to Lawrence O'Donnell
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 12:48 PM
Dec 2014

And his staff!

They dug this up and L O'D kept on the story, asking the questions of the AG and DA which are Pulitzer worthy.

This is how journalism is done!

Only on MSNBC did I find out about this gross abuse of the GJ system.

How many cases were affected in the 29 year span since Garner?

We will never know.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
16. Do you have a link to the O'Donnell show where this was talked about?
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 06:50 PM
Dec 2014

I know there was one from last week where he talks about how the DA referred the jurors to a statute that had been ruled unconstitutional two decades ago and I've seen that one so I'm hoping that there is video of this show too.

Or if you can remember what day it was that you saw this new bit of info on O'Donnell's show I may be able to find it myself. TIA

world wide wally

(21,743 posts)
9. And you wonder why people don't vote?
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 12:59 PM
Dec 2014

It is obvious that the system doesn't work.
Most people go to work every day and do a good job. Always fearing that their lives will crash down if they mess up at work.
Then some corrupt government asshole like McCullough comes along and shows total, corrupt incompetence and just skates by. Whether he is appointed or elected is not the question. In either case, he represents the government.
Do you still wonder why people don't trust government and don't think voting matters?

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
10. isnt the grand jury supposed to provide every possible charge?
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 12:59 PM
Dec 2014

I think there are lots of complaints about the system used, when there is little actual knowledge about how it works.

 

og1

(51 posts)
11. The expedient thing and the right thing are seldom the same
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 01:12 PM
Dec 2014

Racism is the by product capitalism and religion in society. Religion blesses the abuses that capitalism creates. Whether it is environmental damage or racism it is blessed by fundamental religion namely the Calvinists. To understand American capitalism which is the vehicle of racism. I would suggest to all progressive DUers read "The Half Has Never Been Told" by Edward E Bapist. I also would suggest the book "An Indigenous People's History Of The United States" by Roxanne Dunbar-Oritiz. These two books should be mandatory for all American history classes. As it has been said history is written by the victor!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
12. That's okay with the cop apologists here. They say the same thing about Brown.
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 01:27 PM
Dec 2014

He assaulted Wilson so he deserved to die. I don't know which group is more disgusting.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
14. They should be disbarred
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 03:49 PM
Dec 2014

They ALL should be disbarred. I'm sure I'll be told how legal this all is, but they should be disbarred.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
26. A small group really tried to keep us distracted. They seem to be absent.
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 11:55 PM
Dec 2014

They would yell at us for daring to have a discussion about it. 'Wait for all the facts', okay you do that while most of us stand here horrified and stare.



sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
27. I don't think they expected the outpouring of protests that have occurred. For so long they
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 12:51 AM
Dec 2014

the police were untouchable. They hoped it would all go away, as it nearly did after Trayvon Martin. But what is happening now is what needs to happen. Social Media is where it is all happening.

Btw, are you on Twitter? If so would be happy to 'follow' you. It's an amazing tool to use for these kinds of 'uprisings'. News as it is happening and a way to reach tens of thousands of people to organize protests and boycotts etc. Way more effective than any other internet forums. Plus you are not bothered by the trolls and operatives if you don't want to be.

Edited to add, the media was taken by surprise at the immediate protests that occurred in NYC right after the last GJ decision. They are way behind the times. I smiled as I watched them 'wondering' how all these people suddenly showed up so quickly. I guess they never heard of Twitter and FB. I was following it on Twitter so was not at all surprised to see the crowds gathering in several cities that night.

underpants

(182,807 posts)
21. got that laid out for you.
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 10:16 PM
Dec 2014

See it is so clear... so that is settled let's move on



first degree, on the second page is assault in the second degree and the third degree.

What?

Faryn Balyncd

(5,125 posts)
22. Daily I have increasing difficulty believing what had overcome our nation.
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 10:57 PM
Dec 2014



Civics class didn't prepare me for a world of this nature.








Omaha Steve

(99,639 posts)
25. Which color pill....
Sat Dec 6, 2014, 11:50 PM
Dec 2014

Takes you into the matrix???

"You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes."
―Morpheus, to Neo



loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
28. This happened in our name!
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 01:07 AM
Dec 2014

The DA is an elected position and law enforcement is funded by our tax dollars. I wonder how often a person would see such instructions in GJ materials across the country?

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