Chicago Police Kill 51!

[JEFF9K]

The year isn't over, but already Chicago police have killed 51 people!

Are things getting worse? Not really. The headline is from December 1928! Chicago policemen killed 51 people, while the number of cops killed in the line of duty was 13!

Numbers are actually WAY DOWN! In 2013 the number killed by Chicago police was much lower than the total shot, which was 36, ten of which were white.

In the 1928 article, no mention is made of the races of the victims or of the police. Sounds like part of the definition of being not racist.


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[hlthe2b]

1. Mob crime-- very different time

Timeline of organized crime in Chicago http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_organized_crime_in_Chicago#1920s

1927 - Highly ineffective and short-lived against the criminal gangs who were raging against the city at the time, Chicago police tried to stop the criminals by employing groups of police officers who would be ready to shoot known criminals with machine guns at the drop of a hat. This group of officers was known as, "O'Connor's Gunners," after Chicago Police Chief of Detectives William O'Connor.[93]
1927 - Sam Valante, recently hired by Joe Aiello, was killed while arriving in Chicago.
Jan. 26, 1927 - The Hawthorne Inn restaurant owner and Capone friend was killed by members of the North Side Gang. However, per the gang-conference agreement, Capone didn't retaliate. Yet, when the West Side's Joe Saltis killed gang member Ralph Sheldon, another Capone friend, Capone vented his rage on the West Side gunmen who killed his friend. Following the murders of these gunmen, Joe Saltis wisely "retired" to Wisconsin.[94]
Apr. 4, 1927 - Arrested after being taken into police custody for perpetrating election violence, North Side Gang leader Vincent Drucci was shot four times and killed by Chicago Police Department Detective Dan Healy, while Drucci was in police custody. According to one report, the shooting was highly controversial.[95]
May 16, 1927 - The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that profiting from "illicit traffic(ing) in liquor" would be taxable by the feds (U.S. v. Sullivan).[96][97]
Nov. 9, 1927 - Singer and comedian Joe E. Lewis was viciously attacked and slashed on the face and neck and left for dead in his Commonwealth Hotel room by henchmen associated with Outfit lieutenant "Machine-Gun Jack" McGurn, who was at least part-owner of the Green Mill Cocktail Lounge, 4802 N. Broadway, in Uptown, where Lewis had been under contract, but decided not to renew. After the attack, Lewis initially lost his ability to speak, but regained it with therapy. Al Capone stepped up and gave Lewis $10,000 to aid his recovery.
Apr. 10, 1928 - The extraordinary level of violence leading up to Chicago's Republican primary election led to the election being called the, "Pineapple Primary" because of the handgrenades used liberally by both sides. Adding to the chaos were "about 1,000" Capone minions breaking arms and legs of those who opposed Capone's candidate for mayor William Hale Thompson. Chicago Crime Commission founder Attorney Frank J. Loesch paid Al Capone a visit to "demand" that the gangster get his and all the other gangs to cooperate in a cease-fire leading up to the November general election. Capone made that work, and there was peace in Chicago.[98][99]
July 1, 1928 - New York City gangster Frankie Yale was gunned down in New York City by alleged Capone mob members, after Yale had tried to take over Chicago's Unione Siciliana by backing Capone opponent Joe Aiello, who was also backed by Chicago's North Side Gang. A second reason Yale was killed may have been that Capone found out that Yale was stealing Capone's liquor shipments and then selling them back to him.[100][101]
July 25, 1928 - Aiello gang member Salvatore Canale was killed outside his home in Chicago.
Sept. 7, 1928 - Capone's former consigliere and Unione Siciliane president, Antonio Lombardo, was gunned down during a busy Chicago rush hour, where north State Street divides Madison Street between east and west, apparently by the Aiellos. Capone vowed revenge and retaliated by killing four of Aiello's brothers

[JEFF9K]

4. My post excludes mobster-on-mobster killings.

[hlthe2b]

11. Your post does not exclude cops kiling mobsters/suspected mobsters at will which was rampant at the

time--as per this discussion in wiki:

1927 - Highly ineffective and short-lived against the criminal gangs who were raging against the city at the time, Chicago police tried to stop the criminals by employing groups of police officers who would be ready to shoot known criminals with machine guns at the drop of a hat. This group of officers was known as, "O'Connor's Gunners," after Chicago Police Chief of Detectives William O'Connor.

[JEFF9K]

18. Read your own post.

Check the terms "highly ineffective." and "short-lived."

[hlthe2b]

20. It was initiated the end of 1927 and ran into 1928

enough though.. That you seem to feel the need to try to minimize these horrendous police murders of unarmed black people says everything I need to know about you.

[mucifer]

2. First of all more people aren't killed now when they are shot because

of the 911 system and because of the advancement of medicine regarding treating gun shot wounds. Also, from your 2013 figures 10 of the 36 shot were white. That still means most were not white so I don't see your point. Another thing, 1928 was towards the beginning of the migration of African Americans from the south to Chicago.

[JEFF9K]

3. I know that.

That's why I distinguished between "shot" and "killed."

And what percentage of Chicago is white? What percentage of Chicago scofflaws are white?

Most mob-related shootings involved other mobsters.

[mucifer]

5. Chicago is approximately a third white, a third black and a third hispanic.

[JEFF9K]

6. Chicago is 45% white ...

and the migration of African-Americans "by the hundreds-of-thousands" to Chicago started in the 1910s.

My main point is that, contrary to recent beliefs, shootings and killings by police are both way DOWN!

[alcibiades_mystery]

7. "Way down" is encouraging, unless it's your twelve year old killed for nothing

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[mucifer]

10. It's far more complicated than that here in Chicago. You are forgetting about jon burge

who got away with torturing more than one hundred black to false confessions. Many were on death row. burge served less than 5 years for perjury. He never went to jail for the torture and he is receiving his full pension from the Chicago police department. http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/jon-burge-ex-chicago-cop-who-ran-torture-ring-released-prison

So it's not all sunshine and rainbows here in Chicago.

There is plenty of research that shows that there is no equality under our laws:

http://www.crf-usa.org/brown-v-board-50th-anniversary/the-color-of-justice.html

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/08/28/2541231/ways-criminal-justice-civil-rights-crisis-time/

[JEFF9K]

15. I didn't say there was equality.

I want people to look at facts before doing things that will result in a stronger conservative movement and the possible rolling back of Democratic gains.

[marmar]

19. ...............

White alone, not Hispanic or Latino, percent, 2010 31.7%

[JEFF9K]

23. Check the Census Bureau figures.

[marmar]

24. That is the Census Bureau figure

Your stat was for White, including Latino or Hispanic origin.

[JEFF9K]

26. I believe my number is for people who describe themselves as white.

But your figure STRENGTHENS my case. So thanks.

[marmar]

28. No, race is separate from ethnic origin.

But I guess those subtleties are lost on you.

[951-Riverside]

8. There you have it Mr Snerdley! Eric Garner deserved to get the life strangled out of him because...

the police killed more people in 1928 than last year and in 1945 6 million jews were slaughtered in Germany.

These outside agitators and liberal commies are getting all upset over nothing. That Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson and Eric Holder, boy I tell ya!

...We'll be right back after these messages on the EIB Radio Network.

[frazzled]

9. +1

It's amazing, isn't it, the lengths people are going to, to try to convince themselves and others that there's nothing to look at here.
A white boy was killed somewhere; it's about derivatives trading, not loose cigarettes; in 1928 the cops were wild.

They just can't handle the fact that racism persists. And that is why it persists: because people don't want to acknowledge that it's real.

[JEFF9K]

13. People seem unconcerned about police brutality, except where it intersects with racism.

All of these acts should be looked at and reforms should be made.

[JEFF9K]

12. No one hates Rush Limbaugh more than I do.

But I think we could all benefit from historical perspective and consideration of facts.

I stumbled across this newspaper article while researching something else and thought it was worth sharing.

[JEFF9K]

25. I am on Eric Garner's side.

It appears there was bad policing in that incident and in the Tamir Rice incident. But our reactions shouldn't be such that conservatives benefit.

[99Forever]

14. Oh goody, another badge-sniffer making excuses...

... for the brutal state sanctioned murder gangs with badges.

Fuck the police.

[JEFF9K]

16. I am more of a "fact-sniffer."

Sniffing out facts isn't a bad thing.

You think that Bernie Sanders would approve of your use of his avatar?

[99Forever]

17. You think Bernie Sanders approves of murderous cops?

You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you on the ass.

[JEFF9K]

21. You think he approves of saying "fuck the cops"?

[notadmblnd]

29. I think he might not say it himself

But I'm confident that he'd defend the right of others to say "fuck the cops". Bernie Sanders understands the meaning of The First Amendment.

[notadmblnd]

27. Elliott Ness, Al Capone, Frank Nitti etc...,

Need I say more?

[Matariki]

30. What exactly is your point? Your subtext?

Are you denying there is a problem in America with police killing unarmed people, and in particular, black men disproportionately?

Yes, I think you are. Why? What do you gain by denying that fact?