MSNBC Viewers Rebel With Their Remotes And Send Morning Joe Ratings Plummeting

[MerryBlooms]

Morning Joe’s ratings are in freefall for the same reason the rest of the network is struggling. MSNBC is not listening to what their viewers want. Any conversation with MSNBC viewers will in the majority of cases eventually include an expression of distaste for Scarborough.

MSNBC viewers don’t want to spend their mornings with a talking point filled Republican cheerleader. The ratings data suggests that MSNBC viewers are voting with their remotes, and rejecting Morning Joe. Scarborough has never been a good fit for the supposed lean forward network, but it appears that viewers have finally had enough.

A network that has refused to listen to what their viewers are trying to them is now paying the price for thinking that they know best. Viewers are fleeing Morning Joe and demanding a program that fits their values.

They say actions speak louder than words. If that’s the case, viewers are sending a deafening message to MSNBC about Morning Joe.

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/12/03/msnbc-viewers-rebel-remotes-send-morning-joe-ratings-plummeting.html

I gave up watching that show, years ago. I absolutely cannot stomach Joe Scarborough.

[vt_native]

1. Watch Bill Press

A good show on Free Speech TV

streams at

freespeech.org, M-F 6-9 EST

[MerryBlooms]

3. I stream Free Speech or WCPT in the mornings.

[rurallib]

49. Me too

can't stand terrestrial radio in our area any more - it is so bad.

I was in my truck (terrestrial radio) for several hours over the last couple of days. So I fiddled with the AM dial -
Limbaugh, Limbaugh, christmas music, Limbaugh wannabe, sports, sports, bad music, some financial guy, npr, jesus, sports, limbaugh -all in all a wasteland of valuable airwaves

[MerryBlooms]

54. We're really fortunate to still have our local WCPT here in the Chicago area.

I think they are one of the last privately owned radio stations left in America.

[rurallib]

88. yes they are

plus KTNF in Minneapolis - I think those are the only two radio stations still running a full slate of liberal talkers

[cui bono]

111. I listen to that on my phone in the mornings using Tune-In.

The Los Angeles progressive station is now full right wing now. As if there are no progressives in L.A.

[MerryBlooms]

112. IIRC, Clear Channel dumped all their progressive radio for rw or sports-

LA and Portland I think were the two biggest. They don't care that they are losing money with the decision, they just want all voices on the left silenced.

[cui bono]

114. Yep. They left it alone for a while, but then I guess they couldn't control themselves.

So thankful for the internet!

[calimary]

131. Absolutely SUCKS.

I used to listen to Stephanie Miller every morning, and Randi Rhodes every afternoon. WUNNNNNderful companionship while stuck in traffic, which is the general rule here in L.A. And now they're gone. There is quite literally NOTHING to listen to. But we have multiple sports stations (for a city that, I proudly celebrate, has NO NFL franchise - at least for the time being) and all the CON talk we can eat. And for a city this size, we barely have one full all-newser. ONE. Stunning.

I wind up listening to my son's band's demos on the CDs he burned for me, instead.

[7962]

133. Get XM/Sirius. You can still listen to Stephanie and others. nt

[lastlib]

139. what channels?

I can't find em (but it may be the time of day that I'm tuning in...)

[7962]

150. They have a left channel and a right channel.

I think its "Patriot" (r) 125, "Urban view" (AA) 126 and "Progressive" 127
I started with XM when they were separate companies, so I dont know if Sirius would be different numbers

[valerief]

122. +1

[Jesus Malverde]

2. Your missing the big picture in that people don't watch TV anymore.

Every day someone decides they don't need the idiot box when you have literally a million things to watch on demand.

The days of sitting on your ass being fed mainstream propaganda are coming to an end. I think the boomers will be the last generation truly hooked on the idiot box.

[JustAnotherGen]

10. And DVR

I watch most of my shows the next day - when I can fast forward through the commercials.

Takes the few t.v. shows I follow only a 45 to 50 minute time commitment.

[themaguffin]

74. DVR is counted in ratings, depending how soon you watch

and most people DVR tv that I know.

[padfun]

103. Or steam it through Roku or something like that.

I have a 45 meg connection so I can be streaming movies and play World of Warcraft, and have little if any latency.

I dropped Satellite TV and went to streaming. I do have Sirius XM satellite feed in my car.
I think streaming is the future (soon to be present)

[RKP5637]

15. Yep, IMO this is the bottom line. People would rather see what they want than sitting to be force

fed by MSM on the idiot box determining what "they" think is the appropriate propaganda to feed viewers at the allocated feeding time. IMO MSNBC has been drifting into a dismal abyss for sometime now. Maybe it's the Comcast influence. To me, Morning Joe is a train wreck. Much of the show is him giving glaring looks, RW theoretic and pontificating, and Mika preening.

[merrily]

151. You'd think trying to seem intelligent and well-informed would keep Mika too busy to preen.

She's embarrassingly pitiful. In theory, she is there to balance Joe but she has been to his right more than once. The rest of the time, I don't even know what's she's doing.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

16. Depends. It's more like the radio now.

You can listen to the radio while working on your computer. Ditto the TV. We treat our TV more like a radio now than we do a TV - more than half the time when it's on, no one is actually looking at the screen, whether it's baseball, hockey, morning joe, south park, whatever. We're listening while doing something else. It's nice to plunk down on a comfy couch when you're too tired to be typing and just watch some 'comfort food' like The Big Bang, but when you've got the energy to be doing something else, it can provide an audio background. (And, of course, with our package, it actually also has a few dozen music genre stations as well, so I can be listening to reggae or classic rock or whatever just as easily as Scarborough showing the world how much he's addicted to ill-conceived logical fallacies.

[RKP5637]

29. Yep, we do the same, using the tv as background, and then occasionally watching something. ... but

often it's used as a radio.

[Sherman A1]

18. Agreed

I don't know what he said or do I care as I have not watched him or much on MSNBC for years. If I want news it's off to AJ or NPR or the Internet.

But those who complain about him here should take the time to 1). change the channel and 2). email MSNBC and tell them they have found other sources for their "news".

[Bohunk68]

57. Pretty much where I am at also.

Never did get into watching Dead Intern Joe Scum. Stopped much of my MSNBC viewing as well, too much repeat, repeat, repeat from one program to the next. AJ is excellent as is LinkTV which carries foreign news channels such as Deutsche Welle, France TV, AJ, BBC-UK, Mosaic and others. Don't listen to NPR either for several years since they got into the rightwing crap. DU also has up-to-the-minute news as well, with debunking of bs stuff.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

80. That's the main peeve I have with MSNBC.

If there is any big story going on, each show in order, Ed, Sharpton, Mathews, Hayes, Maddow, and O'Donnell will lead with the same story, and the same facts, and the same outrage, or surprise - like it just happened 5 minutes before their show went on the air. It tends to get very redundant and boring (unless of course some right-winger makes a major ass out of themselves).

[jwirr]

99. That is my gripe as well. There must be more going on in the world.

[wheniwasincongress]

90. Do you think they read and care about emails sent?

I have put off writing because I assumed so... I'm not even sure they have like, an intern to read them over. I imagine they go unread...

[Sherman A1]

97. Maybe Yes, Maybe No

but, if you don't send one, they most certainly will not.

Besides, it costs you how much to send the email?

[sendero]

33. Exactly...

..... there is zero, and I mean zero value in ANY main stream media news. Rather than waste any more time on that, I choose what I want to watch and stream it to my TV.

And I'm a boomer by the way

[heaven05]

45. as a boomer

dumped television news a couple of years ago, I only watched Rachel and Olbermann anyway. I cannot watch that garbage spewing hate disguised as entertainment, talk show or 'news', that is purposefully designed to alienate, agitate and create hate by scheming, greedy people who want it all for themselves and BE DAMNED everyone else. And that means jobs, health care, human and civil rights, equal justice. The list just goes on and on. i feel like I have gone back in time, except there is no silver car and young girlfriend, there's a tree, a rope, a crowd of excited people, and violent death at the end of that rope for an innocent person of color. This culture and society is getting outrageous in it's desire to have violence between the rich and poor, and black poor and white poor, minority middle class and white middle class(which is disappearing fast). Yes it's obvious to me, that is what's afoot here. People are not stupid out here, some are aware of the schemes for destruction, violence, chaos and mayhem not caused by us the people.

[dixiegrrrrl]

37. I suspect I am not the only boomer who dumped the tv.

Because, as you say, a million things to watch on demand, and many many ways to get information without screaming commercials pounding my ears.

But, I wonder, is the newer generation gonna be hooked on smart phones?

[Jesus Malverde]

86. Pretty sure we're already there with reliance on search engines.

Handheld or voice activated or brain implanted the reliance on search will be there going forward.

The big difference is its a bi directional experience. Not a passive experience. If you think about the human brain as a hard drive and your eyes as the interface. Watching TV is a one way information trip that is not to your benefit.

[CTyankee]

94. they already are. Have you noticed that wherever you look you see people staring at their phones?

My daughter has banned the kids smart phones at the dinner table. We had this lovely, civilized Thanksgiving dinner where my granddaughters actually interacted with the adults! There was something called "conversation." Imagine that?

[dixiegrrrrl]

101. I have seen via the internet videos and chat and etc about phone staring

I live in a secluded place and by choice do not get out much, so have been spared the zombie phone walking.
People DO tend to yell into them at the grocery store, tho.
I think I would prefer it if they did messaging.

[CTyankee]

105. You must admit it is annoying tho at the dinner table?

I used to love spirited conversations about anything and everything! Is that day gone forever?

[dixiegrrrrl]

107. Long time since I had kids around the dinner table

but, back then, rule was no tv on, no phones answered.
So, given modern day technology, same rule would apply in my house today.

[CTyankee]

120. It's better this way, really. My granddaughters have developed more conversational skills...

Not a lot, but some...it's a start. My19 year old granddaughter is the best. The 16 and 13 year old lag behind. So I've seen some change in the years since they advent of the smart phone...

[nxylas]

41. Which explains why Fox Noise leads the field

Since it explicitly aims itself at the generation that remembers when women and minorities "knew their place".

[Jesus Malverde]

87. Yep, and scared of black people...nt

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[Lenomsky]

143. Personal opinion ...

but I kinda like the randomness of on air TV and channel surfing. I like to chat on occasion with friends/co-workers etc about last nights SHOW A or B. The thing I most like about DVR is pausing for 10-15mins and then fast forward through the commercials as they drive me insane. I hate the marathon DVR catch ups that my Lady puts me through but one must.

Online streaming I find rather expensive (NetFlix etc) and there tends to be nothing that captures me and I spend 30mins trying to decide and then give up.

Excuse the OT: Being a Brit I don't know much about Joe although caught a few mins of his shows but I do like MSNBC and my other options are CNN and Fcuks News .. I have no clue which News Channels are local except Fcuk News 8 (Cleveland) and I avoid all Faux New channels as I scream profanity at the TV.

Long live free to air TV (I don't subscribe to Cable nor Sat in UK and stick with FreeView and FreeSat which has ample channels although I must pay ~$200 per annum for the BBC Licence Fee ... another subject for another time!)

Night

[Jesus Malverde]

144. I know what you mean regarding randomness

Viewing on demand is a different approach.

Most all content is available free online. Try googling "watch online series" and you'll find loads of free streaming content, likely commercial free.

[Mike Nelson]

4. LOL...

They will probably replace him with Luke Rusert!

[Omaha Steve]

5. R #5!!!!

[B Calm]

6. I prefer Washington Journal on C-SPAN in the morning.

[RKP5637]

30. I listen to that sometimes. It can be extremely interesting! n/t

[kentuck]

72. Greta is very intelligent..

...and usually much better than anything on Morning Joe.

[butterfly77]

82. Greta Talks too much..

and interrupts every time someone has a good point she changes the flow of a conversation or thought. She reads too many newspapers or article in one block.

My main point is she is very irritating but Scar Is one arrogant POS who I hate with a passion..

[840high]

125. Yes.

[Cosmocat]

7. It isn't just his political positions

I can't stand to watch it because he is a childish bully and EVERYONE who comes on that show alternates between kissing his as and acting passively deferential, clearly scared that he either will blacklist them or go dead intern on them.

It reeks of one of those early 80s after school specials of a family with an abusive father and all the codependency issues. It is painful and unwatchable.

I actually like the format, and when he is not on set it actually is a good show. But, I haven't watched it in about two years now because it just is too bizarre and painful.

There has to be SOME moderate or democratic person who can be "cool" to plug into this type of format and have a more light hearted show instead of the usual stiff arse morning news shows.

[vt_native]

8. The Young Turks is an internet show that might fit your bill

Cenk Uygr is really good.

[vt_native]

11. or try Sam Seder

the majority report, it has a youtube channel

majority.fm

[MerryBlooms]

24. Yes, he is such a bully and a shameless self-promoter. n/t

[Joey Liberal]

9. I watch Bill Press

Scarborough is a rightwing lunatic who belongs on Faux News.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

130. Remind me again, who is this dickhead Scarborough? Neva heard of him. lol

[Omaha Steve]

12. MSNBC please fire Joe

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Because I retired starting Sunday the 30th, I don't use Sirius to hear Bill anymore. I'm watching on Free Speech TV.

Maybe MSNBC will come looking for Bill to Replace Joe.

Maybe they need Kieth back in the AM slot?

[tomm2thumbs]

13. Joe blew his last wad years ago -- he's a weapons-less cowboy in search of a hat

Frankly, he's speaking to such a small audience now, he's probably going to have to start looking into Medicare and Social Security because his advertiser numbers aren't going to keep him in salary much longer. Starbucks (and MSNBC, frankly) better start realizing what kind of permanent stain they are attaching their name to in the form of Cowboy Joe Scarborough.



* and just so we're clear on the subject line... the term comes from the days of muzzle-load firearms. To ensure a good seal for the gunpowder, it was common to place some cloth (called wadding) between the powder and the ball. If the wad came out of the muzzle following the gunshot, then the gun made a full and proper firing.

[MADem]

20. How sad that you had to explain a common historical term...

...in fear that someone would apply a "sexual innuendo" to it (never mind that the "No sex threads" admonition didn't carry over to DU3...!) and, worse still, "punish" you for it~!!!!

[Kalidurga]

32. it was common to place some cloth (called wadding) between the powder and the ball...

That term has also come to mean blowing a whole lot of cash all at once, like an entire paycheck on just going out on the town.

[Cha]

14. I never watched.. Glad to see others are catching

up.

I could never have handled..



Mahalo Merry Blooms

[riqster]

17. He is an asshole with anger-management issues. Best avoided.

Just ask Lori Klausutis.

[Enthusiast]

21. He's a Bill O'Reilly wannabe.

[JoePhilly]

23. YUP ... leading his own version of "Fox and Friends Lite"

[butterfly77]

83. As far as I am concerned..

These two are one and same,hate them both.

[Enthusiast]

19. Plummet the shit out of those ratings! Leave Mika sitting there with her mouth hanging open.

K&R a whole bunch!

[malaise]

22. I actually turned on Joe Scum this morning

He was quoting Clinton and then quickly said that you can vote to impeach someone and still agree with his point of view. No matter how he tries he's as transparent as glad wrap. He knows that we know - 'dead lady in office' Joe Scum is a fucking idiot.

Just imagine how a black man would be treated with a dead woman in his office. The police kill twelve year old African-American children for less.

[tartan2]

25. I never tried to stomach good ole white boy Joe Scarborough!

The only way I could watch that show is with the mute button on and even then Joe is just out right nauseating!!

[66 dmhlt]

26. I don't have cable TV and I STILL LOATHE Scarborough

[Saturday]

27. And MSNBC has promos on that are....

bragging about how Joe is beating CNN. Interesting.

[7962]

134. Hell, I beat CNN's ratings with my posts on DU.

Funny how they run those commercials constantly but never mention Fox.

[bigwillq]

28. Never really watched Joe

once in a great while years ago. I am better off not watching him.

[Rhiannon12866]

31. Watched two minutes the other morning, all I could take...

If I'm up at this hour, I usually just tune into the local news, for the weather.

[MerryBlooms]

47. A little local news is plenty for me

I've been making Christmas cards and running Midsomer Murders or Poirot in the background.

[Rhiannon12866]

50. I tend to watch more local news this time of year to catch the weather.

[Kalidurga]

34. Saw him while flipping through the channels once paused for about 30 seconds...

I didn't like him. I don't know when this was, but it was when I still watched tv so over 5 years ago. I see I am not missing anything.

[olddots]

35. we customize our little worlds

We give up more and more searching for pockets of comfort like becoming culturally agoraphophic . I see a lonely world from a shrinking perspective where I have no say in anything outside of not partisipating electronically ......

[greymattermom]

36. Steve Kornacki

would be a great replacement, IMO

[greatlaurel]

67. Thought Kornacki was OK until I heard him spewing right wing talking points about the Ohio elections

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It blew his nonpartisan image for me. Listened to him a couple more times and realized he is just a stealth right wing promoter. I no longer watch his weekend show. Chris Hayes was so much better in that format.

MSNBC just seems to be trying to self destruct, so the right wing owners can claim no one wants to watch news that is not right wing drivel. Seems we are getting a lot of right wing garbage pushed on MSNBC, sad Todd, Mrs. Greenspan, and the vile Scaborough. I watch Schultz, Hayes, O'Donnell and sometimes Maddow. I think Joy Reid does a good show, but it is on at a time I never watch TV.

[butterfly77]

85. Correct..

I now watch them all now with a suspicious eye. A lot of these talking heads,reporters,politicians,doctors,lawyer and police are related or friends,lovers getting paid one way or the other telling us what to by because they have investments on one thing or the other. They mix mingle write books and try to tell us what to think,how to think and what to buy.

[LovingA2andMI]

123. Perfect

This is EXACTLY what they do. If folks want to listen to grassroot Progressive-Left politics analysis and discussion, tune into our show every once in a while.

Independent Underground Radio LIVE
IURL on Tune-In
IURL on Stitcher
IURL on iTunes
IURL on Google Play (App)
IURL on Soundcloud
IURL on Blog Talk Radio

[watoos]

38. I have to laugh

that people think that MSNBC is liberal. Really?
Who owns MSNBC, is it liberals?
Does MSNBC follow the narrative of other cable news networks like Fox? Sure they do. If I want to see Rush or Sean or Limbaugh, all I have to do is turn on the Ed Show or Lawrence Odonnell, they show plenty of clips. Sure they put a liberal slant to the narrative, but they are talking about things that the reich wants talked about.
There are 2 people who stray from the narrative from time to time, and I do watch them, Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow. Chris and Rachel better be careful or that liberal network will do what it did to Cenk, and Martin, and Dylan. Those people strayed from the narrative and MSNBC canned them. Tell me again why MSNBC is considered liberal?

Oh and Phil Donahue, but that was NBC.

[underpants]

46. Thank you - I've been saying this for a while

First, Fox News dominates the ratings so everyone follows them down their rabbit holes of hoaxes. CNN seems to think they are going to ween some viewers and MSNBC spends at least 20% of every show countering the RW nonsense. I do like Lawrence O'Donnell's show but I catch it very infrequently.

Joe
When Imus got fired (this is before MSNBC supposedly became liberal) they tried out several hosts. The most notable was Stephanie Miller. As a former stand up comedian she knows how to perform/present her point, fairly liberal, and (this is important for TV) very easy on the eyes. But they went with Joe - a middle if the afternoon dead air nowhere man. Was it because of the Starbucks sponsorship? Mmm maybe but to me it clearly was corporate media admitting WE CAN'T LET YOU LEAVE THE HOUSE WITH A DIFFERENT SET IF IDEAS AND FACTS. Just yesterday at lunch a coworker brought up Joe's "rant" and I was the only one at the table who had any idea about the actual facts of the case and how the grand jury was run by McColluch. They all just had the skip-to-Brown's character bullshit. I kept it civil but they were shocked at some of the actual facts that I knew.

[deutsey]

70. I agree

The owners will allow the shows to "lean forward" only so far.

It's really all about their bottom line. They provide a very watered-down and carefully controlled alternative product for liberal-minded consumers on weeknights, but a rightward-leaning product in the morning and on weekends ("Lockup"? On a liberal network? ).

[ayak9]

75. Lean forward?

Isn't that more like "bend over'?

[on point]

79. FYI. Starbucks sponsorship came much later when they realized a great tie up

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[underpants]

93. Ah

I did not know that

[big_dog]

118. I would guess that Alex Wagner will take over in the mornings eventually if the ratings erosion hold

they need to pair her with a younger guy, perhaps Willie Geist

[underpants]

128. Geist has the Today Show gig

Imagine, he gets to introduce Carson Daly and his worldly insight.

[madokie]

39. I just leave the tv off

when I do finally get up and turn it on I turn on the Science channel. sometimes Its pretty interesting, sometimes not so much. Most times I get busy with some project I'm doing and don't pay any attention to radio or tv.

[Bluenorthwest]

40. You can't plummet from the curb. His ratings have always been and are tiny as can be.

It is hard to be on national TV, even cable TV, and have that few people watch.

[marble falls]

42. Maybe if they put a laugh track in the mix and have Mikka develop a catch phrase......

like "What are you talking about, Morning Joe!"

[wheniwasincongress]

92. I love it!

"Not again, Morning Joe!"

[marble falls]

100. "Not again, morning Joe!" Copyright it, we'll get rich!

[appalachiablue]

129. That's big Joe, rich and laughing all the way to the bank. For 3 hrs. daily he's paid millions-

I read Walter Kronkite's top salary was 88K. And after this gig Joe'll take over O'Reilly's spot perhaps.

[Lrobby99]

43. Why Even Bother?

Why would or does anyone in the USA continue to watch any Network or Cable "News" to begin with? How much more malinformation from blabbering Corporate mouthpieces does anyone need?

[turbinetree]

44. Finally/FIRE HIM/ RESIGN/QUIT

Finally a too big to fail mentality is collapsing, by having a failure to spew his hate and fear and getting up every morning to listen if we wanted too is and was quite tiring, because there are another couple of cable networks that do the same thing and the major one is FIX NOISE. And the viewers for MSNBC wanted a change of actual reporting of the facts with transparency and to LEAN FORWARD with both social , domestic and world views, which is desperately needed, instead of half truths and outright no truth.
This so called show with this former Rep. of Florida DID NOT put forth any ideas of solving problems , a prime example is what everyone heard and what he said on the INSENSITIVITY of his remarks in all of his remarks / comments based on his right wing thoughts of attacking the victim and the use of using his guests to continue to perpetuate this hate and fear in the deaths of individuals in the last three months, the American Worker, Environmental Issues, Woman Issues such as equal pay, rape, NO means NO, Infrastructure crumbling and disintegration, and then his total disdain of public.
So in closing RESIGN, QUIT, FIRE HIM, so that you can go sit on the couch (FIX NOISE) with the other racists, put on your fake face of deceit and deception and bring forth your Sean Hannity, Bill Reilly , Bill Hemmer, Elizabeth Hasselback, Steve Doocy, and others on this right wing demagoguery network who do nothing but spew hate and fear to the masses of the right wing crowd, and tell there believers that they are the chosen ones.


GOOD BYE --------MORNING JOE and take your baggage with you and please let the door hit you in the a****s

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

110. You forgot the "nappy-headed hoes" faux pas.

He should have gone YEARS ago.

[bonniebgood]

48. Here you Go. Listen Live MSNBC and CNN Link

I dumped Cable a year ago. I promise you will feel better.
Listen to Msnbc and others as background noise. Pay internet only.
http://www.hulkusaa.com/watch-msnbc-live-streaming/

[MerryBlooms]

53. Thanks, but I'm keeping my cable for now

When I waken in the middle of night with a panic attack, I flip on the tv to help get my bearings and calm myself.

[TRoN33]

51. Never liked his talking points even if he

Did called out certain Republicans for their lousy jobs at governing only if they are tea partiers or 'RINOs'.

[Zorra]

52. I don't watch TV, and don't understand why any Dem would watch RW propaganda. nt

[HockeyMom]

55. Horrible back to back shows

Morning Joe and Chuckie Toad. Too long an agony. I stopped watching MSNBC.

[vlyons]

56. What you don't like?

What? You don't like when Joe pounds on the table? You mean you don't want to start your day watching a man pound on the table?
What? You don't like when Mika obsequiously pats Joe on the shoulder and tells him to calm down? What you don't want to be reminded of how women should always defer to men?

What's wrong with you people? *snark*

[randr]

58. Al Jazeera is blowing American media out of the water

Precise and informative NEWS. Great special reports.
Absolutely no comparison unless you include The Daily Show and Cobert for comic relief.

[renate]

81. Al Jazeera is absolutely awesome

It's a treat to get real news, and the special reports are great indeed.

[tomm2thumbs]

59. Starbucks' taste is tainted by their association with Joe Scarborough and Morning Joe, no?

Maybe they need to find a new 'Joe' for the show -- they sponsor it and they certainly can influence it's survival as such. Or maybe no one at Starbucks cares about anything other than profits.

Hmmmmm

[MerryBlooms]

60. I think so, and probably the real reason they are no longer associated with the show.

An MSNBC spokesperson confirmed via email that the formal partnership ended several weeks ago, adding; “MSNBC and Starbucks had a successful partnership for more than four years and we’re looking forward to working on new projects together in the future.”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbcs-morning-joe-is-no-longer-brewed-by-starbucks/

[tomm2thumbs]

63. that nasty aftertaste is going to be long and lingering

but I guess when you lie down with the dogs, it is no surprise that you wake up with the fleas

[lonestarnot]

61. Is it over yet this am so that I can look at something? Anything, other than a pile?

[C_U_L8R]

62. I love it when...

the free market bites republicans in the ass

[Historic NY]

64. I don't watch any of the crap on tV...gave up a long time ago...

its easier on the blood pressure. In fact I can't tell you the last time I had any network channel program on.

[deutsey]

65. MSNBC needs to show more "Lockup"!

[Erose999]

89. Well, considering that "Lockup" is where Joey Scabs should be after murdering his intern, they

could get a 2-for-1 deal out of it. "Lockup: Joe Scarboruogh" has a good ring to it, don't you think? Instead of sipping lattes and shilling for Starbucks, Joe and his co-hosts could be stamping out license plates or clearing weeds and picking up litter from the highway.

[Triana]

66. They need to dump Joe and put John Fugelsang on. . .

THAT would be worth watching.

[MerryBlooms]

95. I think Fugelsang would do great with his own show.

[JNelson6563]

68. Count me among those who don't bother w/TV.

I stream what I want to watch and no commercials. It also costs much less.

Julie

[ffr]

102. +1

I don't miss wasting time in front of any propaganda receiving device (TV). The result has been that the 24/7 watching RWNJs I know can't use me as a lightning rod for everything they see bad in the World.

And it benefits them too. So long as they don't attack me personally, they won't have me two inches from their face with my can opener.

[TxVietVet]

69. Scarborough is a conservanazi shill.

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He's a POS.
Always has been, always will.
Just check into his past. Find out why he's called "Dead Intern" Joe. I think he got out of Congress because he was forced out. Probably skanking the intern while portraying the great American conservanazi Catholic family man.
He's just another lying conservanazi hypocrite.
Never like the lying bastard. I often wonder who he had pictures of f*cking a goat to get the job he has now.
Scarborough belongs on his knees in front of druggie Limbaugh rather than on MSNBC.

[fredamae]

71. Well, General Electric

Owns MSNBC...so, there's that.
I understand they don't really pay taxes and in fact WE give them Millions in Refunds.....they make a Lot of money-enough to Buy MSNBC....They're the Big Daddies calling the shots and I suspect they don't give a rats ass about ratings...wouldn't those losses be a Big tax write-off?

[SoCalDem]

73. I watch AlJazeera instead of Joe

He's always been a cocky bastard, and has not gotten any better over time..

That am show should have Richard Wolffe, Katty Kay and Eugene Robinson as hosts..

Dump the plagiarist geezer Barnicle
Dump the (no longer wet behind the ears) Willie Geist..he has another gig anyway

Mika could hang around as newsreader

Eliminate the right wingers they routinely fawn over..

Turn it into real news, and fact-based commentary and it would be a winner..

[Calista241]

76. Maybe people can't take all the Viagra commercials. n/t

[doc03]

77. This don't jive with their promo, they say Morning Joe has

beaten CNN in ratings for years? So what do I beleive?

[Blue Idaho]

78. You are missing the point.

The goal of commercial broadcasting is to deliver you the viewer to the advertisers. Period. The programming is the bait - the commercials are the meat of the matter. Ratings are important because they tell advertisers where to spend their money. Programming may be different but just how different is it really? Not very - and there is a reason for that.

Tied into this delivery system is an unspoken understanding that a complacent brain numb population is good for the corporations who advertise. They don't want broadcasters delivering radically different social views and news. They want the vast majority of the population's biggest dilema to be which flavor of keurig cup to pop into the coffee machine in the morning. So it's as true today as ever - TV is the opiate of the masses.

Look at MSNBC's lineup and chart the programming from crazy conservative to wild eyed liberal - where does it end up? Left leaning? Really? Not over a complete broadcast day. They simply segment the market and deliver programming based on who's watching each time slot. If Joe goes, will he be replaced by a truly liberal voice? Of course not - we don't have truly liberal voices on the TV machine. People have to search those voices out in what we lovingly call "alternative media." Thats a nice way of talking about the media that is not profitable or effective for national big brand corporate advertisers.

What does my heart good is to see tens of thousands of protestors out in the streets following the continued tragedies of killer cops and a crooked Justice system. Something tells me we are just seeing the tip of a very large iceberg. Personally, I think there are plenty of ordinary citizens who are just plain fed up with the way the elite are running this country for the 1%ers and screwing the little guy at every possible turn. I know it's freezing cold most place but my hope is that we see hundreds of thousands of protestors in the streets. Nothing scares the corporate ruling class like lots and lots of angry peasants in the streets. Frankly these "job creators" have no one to blame but themselves. They gutted the middle class and are busy forcing everyone into serfdom so I say it's about time we handed out the torches to the peasants and joined them in the streets.

[Pakhet]

115. Why, oh why, can't I rec a post? I'd rec yours in a hearbeat nt

[Blue Idaho]

136. Gosh - Thanks! nt.

[Paper Roses]

84. I don't watch Joe but I hope someone posts that he is fired.

I can't stand him. Tuned out years ago. He does not represent anything that I would advocate or believe in.

[DeSwiss]

91. Stunningly superficial?

- Right. I'd heard that:

[Jesus Malverde]

109. lol that was great...nt

[BellaKos]

96. The worst part for me is

watching Mika, a presumably intelligent woman, being so passive and deferential to that ass.

I had high hopes in the beginning, thinking that Mika would be a strong counter-point to Joe's drivel, but noooo .... she looks like she's afraid of him, like a battered wife.

I finally gave up hope a coupla' years ago and won't watch it now at all. Can't stand even a minute of it.

[MFM008]

152. exactly

me to, she looks like a beaten dog sitting there. See Ive seen her attempt at fighting back before and Joe attacked her badly as did M. Halperin and Willy, and they laughed at her position. I sent a letter of protest to MSNBC about it, see how far those go....

[Spitfire of ATJ]

98. LOL!!! So much for their latest promo!!!

Oh wait,...they no doubt STILL beat CNN.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

104. When Ted Kennedy was alive and mentioned we would hear some dumbdhit rightwinger ask about

Mary Jo Kopechne, what she might be thinking about the issue, but uh oh, she cant, she is dead.

Well, Joe, I wonder what Lori Klausutis thinks of your rants, uh oh, she cant think, dead.

[TNNurse]

106. We only watch when Joe is not on.

Maybe they could get rid of him and have "Mornings without Joe", I bet it would do well.

[NYtoBush-Drop Dead]

108. ABout time.

And when will MSNBC do news on the weekend instead of their LOCK UP show? WTF? What because news doesn't happen on weekends?

[mstinamotorcity2]

113. The American people are

getting weary of republican bullshit.

[Jack Rabbit]

116. !!

[Ilsa]

117. Turned it off after the 2012 election when Joe

Scar was so bummed. I watched a little of the bummed part and enjoyed it, then turned it off. I watch Mike & Mike now.

[Jake2413]

119. They can't dump him soon enough

[yortsed snacilbuper]

121. Imus was more watchable than joe blow hard!

[BrainMann1]

124. I ask the question as to why we needed Morning Joe?

You can tell that most of the answers were from republicans who read DU to stay informed. Now that the truth is out I hope good old boy joe is on his way.

[DonCoquixote]

126. The sad fact is

While there are people on MSNBC that are a true delight (Maddow) the place is run of and for the benift of the Centre-right that wants to believe everyone else is just a bunch of idiots, be they left wing or tea party. They will also always defer to the tea party, even if Morning Joe himself genuinely attack thems at times, because they know who signs their checks.

[lexington filly]

127. It's the 50's style "Marriage" between Joe and his tv "wife"

that's like fingernails on a chalkboard for me. He's this obnoxious, domineering, & over-bearing guy and she acts the sighing, long-suffering, what-can-I-do-with-him, weak wife. She lets him run over her and belittle her both in his tone and volume not to mention his wordiness. Their dynamics make acid spill freely in my stomach.

[vi5]

132. And all his remaining viewers are from DU.

[calimary]

135. I posted this on another thread - what I'd change if MSNBC were mine:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5905079

I'm actually thinking I should print it out and send it to them.

[TeamPooka]

137. It's good News Thursday. Not for Joe but for me. nt

[OldRedneck]

138. Lori Klausutis

The world seems to have forgotten Lori Klausutis, the 28-year-old female staffer who was found dead in Scarborough's district office.

Here's an article about the episode. The best description of this incident and the shady investigation was on American Politics Journal, however, that article is no longer available.


http://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/2011/03/is-morning-joe-scarborough-murderer.html

[ReRe]

140. Good

Hope he sinks all the way to the bottom. The most I can stand of him is no more than 1 minute, as I only land on MSNBC at that time of the morning when my arthritic fingers punch in a wrong number.
I watch Bill Press until Amy comes on at 8am on DISH 9415.

[HeiressofBickworth]

141. We used to have a progressive radio station in Seattle

but the owners decided that what Seattle REALLY needed was a fourth sports station. Current TV had some good morning shows, but they sold out to Al Jazeera. So between the two major changes we lost Stephanie Miller, Ed Schultz, Bill Press and a bunch of others. If MSNBC wants to increase their morning share, they could put Miller, Press and please please please, someone please bring back Martin Bashir!!!

[deafskeptic]

142. I'm not surprised.

I don't own a tv but when I was in the hospital after watching Joe Scum for a few days on TV, I would switch over to Cartoon Network and watch Hero: 108 instead.

His idea of debate is to interrupt anyone he's debating and give them zero chance to defend their position. That disgusted me.

[whttevrr]

145. I tune in in order to turn the channel... I loathe Joe.

Lately I have been up at that time. I make an effort to watch msnbc from rachel to early start, to the annoying cheerleader guy. When I hear the promo for Morning joe, I wait until the last second and purposely change my cable channel from msnbc to cnn.

I keep doing it in the hope that maybe it will register somewhere in some log in some bean counters tool box. I have even turned on the tv just to make sure I get the satisfaction of changing the channel on morning joe.

[DemocraticWing]

146. He's far more conservative than Don Imus.

And probably actually worse on racial issues. That's all we need to know about Morning Coffee.

[obxhead]

147. I've given up on all of MSNBC.

Fuck their infotainment "news" channel. They're no better than fox or CNN.

[santroy79]

148. How awesome would it be if Joe got canned!!!

I cant stand the show or him. I never understood why they keep him around. He needs to go

[RedCappedBandit]

149. Honestly why would anyone with internet access watch these types of shows anyway

I don't give a fuck what some dittohead tells me I should care about or why. I have unlimited access to everything right here at my fingertips. I'd much rather go to my own trusted sources for information on issues *I* find important so I can decide on my own how I want to move forward.

I'd rather staple my eyes shut than turn on TV news.

[Miigwech]

153. Boring Joe

I also stopped watching the show years ago. Mica should take over the show ....