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gollygee

(22,336 posts)
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 09:25 AM Dec 2014

Stop and Frisk fades away under new mayor. Crime goes down anyway.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2014/12/stop-and-frisk-fades-away-under-new-mayor-crime-goes-down-anyway

Robberies, considered the most telling indicator of street crime, are down 14 percent across New York City from last year. Grand larcenies — including the thefts of Apple devices that officials said drove an overall crime increase two years ago — are also down, by roughly 3 percent.

And after a record-low 335 homicides in 2013, the city has seen 290 killings in the first 11 months of this year, a number unheard-of two decades ago. “When I came into this job, people always talked about last year — last year was an amazing year in this city in terms of bringing down crime,” Mr. de Blasio said. “We saw what was possible. The city’s crime rate continues to go down.”

Previous police commissioners have insisted that New York's mass stop-and-frisk program was an essential part of the city's fight against violent crime. "No question about it," said Ray Kelly last year after a federal judge struck down the program. "Violent crime will go up." And mayor Michael Bloomberg agreed: If you try to so much as reform stop-and-frisk, he warned the city council, you're "playing politics with people’s lives." But as you can see from the chart on the right, stop-and-frisk did indeed go down and violent crime did not go up. Instead it went down. Just like it has for the past 20 years.

It almost makes you think that something else entirely must be going on. But what?
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Stop and Frisk fades away under new mayor. Crime goes down anyway. (Original Post) gollygee Dec 2014 OP
Good question. Smarmie Doofus Dec 2014 #1
I don't understand. Stellar Dec 2014 #2
 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
1. Good question.
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 09:51 AM
Dec 2014

>>>It almost makes you think that something else entirely must be going on. But what?>>>>

I'd be a little skeptical of the #s.

Juggling #s and twisting stats has become an art form.... esp in NYC.

Carry over from Bloomberg. He didn't invent it but he raised it to an art form.... as anyone who remembers the miraculous rise in student test scores in 2005 ( reelect year) will attest.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
2. I don't understand.
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 10:17 AM
Dec 2014
It almost makes you think that something else entirely must be going on. But what?


Do you think de Blasio has something up his sleeve and lying about the stats like that damned Rahm Emanuel here in Chicago or, are you saying that Blacks and Hispanics are inherently bad, something's up?
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