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The #1 Best Occupy Wall Street Sign We've Seen (Original Post) Playinghardball Apr 2012 OP
The Mussolini definition of Fascism. matmar Apr 2012 #1
For those who don't know the words of originator of fascism, plus FDR who fought it: freshwest Apr 2012 #5
Great FDR quote! n/t hootinholler Apr 2012 #18
Indeed a great FDR quote. "...today a concentration of private power without equal in history is pampango Apr 2012 #27
Nice quote Sea-Dog Apr 2012 #29
Clear enough for anyone to see, if they turn off the lying media. freshwest Apr 2012 #2
Yup. n/t Iwillnevergiveup Apr 2012 #3
I would say a sign reading something like, JayhawkSD Apr 2012 #4
Voters can vote for whomever they want. AlbertCat Apr 2012 #7
The vast majority of voters vote for the candidates who can come up with a kings ransom... Larry Ogg Apr 2012 #17
Excellent post! tex-wyo-dem Apr 2012 #21
Thank you tex... Larry Ogg Apr 2012 #37
Are you presuming chervilant Apr 2012 #11
You neglect the MIC in that first senence. xtraxritical Apr 2012 #15
Same animal, chervilant Apr 2012 #16
The uber rich have managed to turn our democracy into a sham fasttense Apr 2012 #22
Ah, yes, chervilant Apr 2012 #28
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #6
Poli-Sci 101 handlettered on a piece of cardboard. Brigid Apr 2012 #8
If we taxed them harder, they wouldn't have as much money to meddle. Starry Messenger Apr 2012 #9
+1000 abelenkpe Apr 2012 #12
+1 nt TBF Apr 2012 #25
That sums it up perfectly. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2012 #10
Sums it up well McSpocky Apr 2012 #13
K&R SunSeeker Apr 2012 #14
let's not pretend that only applies to one party... KG Apr 2012 #19
+1 CrispyQ Apr 2012 #20
Ain't that the truth. K&R (nt) PotatoChip Apr 2012 #23
The heart of the problem is capitalism - TBF Apr 2012 #24
Bingo, TBF. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2012 #34
Yes, indeed.... and that said addresses this: MrMickeysMom Apr 2012 #26
So I assume you all are in favor of getting rid of Obama's Corporate backers also TattooChamp Apr 2012 #30
here's a mind-blower for you... yes, I am fascisthunter Apr 2012 #31
I agree that corporations shouldn't be allowed to pander to candidates on either side TattooChamp Apr 2012 #32
I am. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2012 #35
"You all"?? TBF Apr 2012 #36
Word. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2012 #33

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
5. For those who don't know the words of originator of fascism, plus FDR who fought it:
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:26 AM
Apr 2012

Last edited Fri Apr 20, 2012, 03:34 PM - Edit history (1)

The first stage of fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power. -- Mussolini

“The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power.... Among us today a concentration of private power without equal in history is growing.” ― Franklin D. Roosevelt

The essence of privatization of anything done by the government or owned in common for the use of all or the preservation of natural resources for all people, leads to fascism. Mussolini also spoke of the religious aspect of the corporatist state as well, and it is working here now.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
27. Indeed a great FDR quote. "...today a concentration of private power without equal in history is
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 08:17 AM
Apr 2012

growing."

By the late 1920's income inequality had set a record (not surprisingly given the concentration of private power)- only to be surpassed in the last decade - before it was reversed by FDR and other Democrats. FDR must be rolling over in his grave.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
2. Clear enough for anyone to see, if they turn off the lying media.
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:02 AM
Apr 2012

Otherwise, all drowned out in think tank talk. Excellent sign and needs to be said everywhere. No ideology, no name calling. Just logic.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
4. I would say a sign reading something like,
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:18 AM
Apr 2012
"The heart of the problem is voters who base their vote on corporate-paid advertisements instead of the voting record of the incumbent legislators," would be a bit more to the point.

They vote against our best interest and we reelect them again and again. Whose fault is that?
 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
7. Voters can vote for whomever they want.
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:30 AM
Apr 2012

But the corporate funding and out and out bribing ... called lobbying... of politicians has gotten way out of hand. Money is not free speech even if John Roberts thinks so (and he really doesn't... the SOB).

Larry Ogg

(1,474 posts)
17. The vast majority of voters vote for the candidates who can come up with a kings ransom...
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 01:51 PM
Apr 2012

Which is needed to turn the candidate into a political celebrity within the corporately owned, conservative biased, mainstream media (M$N). People vote for who they see on TV the most.

And where do you come up with the king’s ransom that will get you elected?

How about the Economic Royalty (aka the 1%) who has the financial power to ensure their best interest are always served.

The rulers figured out a long time ago that, by making political power to expensive for the common man, and by financing the astronomically expensive campaigns of politicians in both political parties, they can hand pick the politicians that will serve their best interest.

Unfortunately the majority of voters will never figure out just how bad the political charade is rigged, and they can always be counted on to never have a clue about who their voting for, and therefore vote in the best interest of the Economic Royalty.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
21. Excellent post!
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 01:45 AM
Apr 2012

Nothing much I can add here.

Basically, in a vast majority of political contests, voters have a choice between two candidates: one from the red team, one from the blue team. In most cases, both the red team and blue team candidates are beholden to the same big-money corporate controlled interests and are vetted by the same power brokers.

In other words, there is no *real* choice for the interests of the people. First and foremost, both candidates answer to the power brokers, not the actual voters.

And, let's face it, many voters are not aware of the reality of the situation and are effectively brainwashed by the bright and shiny corporate-owned media.

Yes, the game is rigged.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
11. Are you presuming
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:52 AM
Apr 2012

that the electronic voting system cannot be used to effect the outcome preferred by the Corporate Megalomaniacs who've usurped our media, our politics, AND our global economy? I think this is a very dangerous presumption.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
22. The uber rich have managed to turn our democracy into a sham
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 07:04 AM
Apr 2012

They have turned our economy into a game of craps, they have put the entire world into a 2nd depression, and they have turned our justice system into a torture approving racket to cover up for the crimes of the rich, yet many people still believe they have not fiddled with the voting machines.



chervilant

(8,267 posts)
28. Ah, yes,
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 08:51 AM
Apr 2012

and the argument can be made that the vast majority of the Hoi Polloi watches, with glassy eyes and zombified brains, the relentless propaganda promulgated by the uber wealthy Corporate Megalomaniacs who've usurped our media, our politics, AND our global economy.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
8. Poli-Sci 101 handlettered on a piece of cardboard.
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:38 AM
Apr 2012

That just about says it all, doesn't it? Bet this guy is a fellow former Marine.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
9. If we taxed them harder, they wouldn't have as much money to meddle.
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 11:41 AM
Apr 2012

Get to the root of the problem. Tax the fuckers.

TattooChamp

(2 posts)
30. So I assume you all are in favor of getting rid of Obama's Corporate backers also
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 09:16 AM
Apr 2012

University of California $1,648,685
Goldman Sachs $1,013,091
Harvard University $878,164
Microsoft Corp $852,167
Google Inc $814,540
JPMorgan Chase & Co $808,799
Citigroup Inc $736,771
Time Warner $624,618
Sidley Austin LLP $600,298
Stanford University $595,716
National Amusements Inc $563,798
WilmerHale LLP $550,668
Columbia University $547,852
Skadden, Arps et al $543,539
UBS AG $532,674
IBM Corp $532,372
General Electric $529,855
US Government $513,308
Morgan Stanley $512,232
Latham & Watkins $503,295

TattooChamp

(2 posts)
32. I agree that corporations shouldn't be allowed to pander to candidates on either side
Sat Apr 21, 2012, 09:29 AM
Apr 2012

but all to often, you see a lot of folks yelling about one side when in fact both sides are guilty of the same thing... corporate contributions in my own opinion is nothing more than a legal bribe

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