Facebook Smack Down --

[IdaBriggs]

Crazy Conservative Friend: Where was the national guard Obama!!!????

Me: (Links to awesome thread titled) "No need for the National Guard here:" http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025866328 (filled with white people rioting / acting foolish over sporting events)

Crazy Conservative Friend: Typical Libral logic. 2 or more wrongs, makes a right.

Me: Have you been right about anything about Obama yet? Gas prices down, stock market up, unemployment down, Bin Ladin dead - do you want a pony? Is that why you think Obama should have interfered in a situation where the GOVERNOR has to request the activation of the National Guard? Or do you really want him ignoring the rule of law and acting like a dictator (which so far he has only done in the minds of the crazy conservatives)?



I'm kind of proud of it.

[Raul Hernandez]

1. Save your sanity, unfriend all your conservative fuckwits.

They're not worth it in FB.

[Prophet 451]

2. I second that motion.

[IdaBriggs]

3. I only have one or two left.

We usually ignore each other's politics. To be fair, I broke the barrier on this one, but the "auto-Obama" just irritated me.

[tosh]

5. Better yet,

unfriend FB.

It's a cesspool.

[eggplant]

18. I'm happy to say that I have never waded into the sewage pit

and I'm a technologist!

[C Moon]

14. That's what I've done, and life is much more pleasant since.

...wait, I agree with IdaBriggs: I too have one left. A musician friend from when I was 17-18. I just turn off his posts whenever I see them. At least he doesn't post RW replies on my posts.

[Pakid]

36. It saves a lot of heartburn

When it comes to the holidays I am always glad that I have no relatives living close to me to many of them are Republican . Nothing ruins a holiday like a Republican full of hate and out right BS. Happy T day

[underpants]

4. You should be proud of it

YOU deserve the pony

[oldandhappy]

6. yes! good job!!

And I will confess that over a year ago I systematically unfriended all the kooks on my FB list. If they are making you crazy, they are not your friends. Keep the people who nurture you. You are worth it!

[LP2K12]

7. Great response

[WinkyDink]

8. "2 or more wrongs, makes a right-wing nutcase." FIXED.

[Roland99]

11. ^^^ this

[logosoco]

9. Well done! nt

[onyourleft]

10. Very nicely...

...done, Ida.

[stage left]

12. good job.

However I'm about convinced that trying to change the nerve cords(you really can't call them minds) of right wingers is futile. It's like banging your head against a steel door. It doesn't affect the steel door and gives you a helluva headache.

[L0oniX]

13. K & R

[Reter]

15. I would have left out gas prices though

They spiked for a few years into his term until recently going down. I think a president doesn't have much to do with it. Remember those idiot Republicans in 2008 (when gas prices dropped dramatically) saying how it was because of Republicans?

Other than that though, you're on point. Throw in crime down too, and no more DADT.

[alfredo]

21. I say about the gas prices that they are from Obama increasing production. It isn't just about

energy independence, it is about undercutting Putin.

[Thespian2]

16. Talking to a RWNJ

like my sister is a waste of energy. Remember the adage about cement minds...all mixed up and permanently set. Good response on your part. RWNJ's have no response to anything factual.

[livingonearth]

17. Good one!

It's always nice when you can do a little teaching in a smack down, not that it will do any good.

[Moostache]

19. Nice, wasting your time with them, but funny nonetheless..

Gay marriages DID NOT collapse Western civilization as promised.
Obama DID NOT start rounding up conservatives into FEMA camps as promised.
The election of 2008 DID NOT bring on repeats of the 9/11 attacks as promised.
The stimulus DID NOT bankrupt America as promised.


The list of promised calamities of the Obama administration is very long indeed.
But I have lost hope in getting the right wing to see beyond their hate and preconceived notions. (Pay particular attention to the fact that their ONLY defense is constant projection and saying that they were right all along even when demonstrably wrong.)

[alfredo]

22. I'm pissed about him not using the FEMA camps.

[obxhead]

20. The national guard is there.

They are following their orders. Protect the property of the rich white people, let the rest burn.

[orleans]

23. i was sent a friend request by a childhood friend i haven't seen since...childhood

i accepted the request

after a few days of seeing the crap she "liked" and posted (tea bagger bullshit & right wing diarrhea) i unfriended her.

her family moved to another state after we finished grade school.

and apparently we grew up worlds apart.

[santamargarita]

24. I will unfriend anyone I get the least amount of smell of GOP!

[catbyte]

39. I state in my profile that Republicans needn't bother--they will be immediately unfriended if they

share any bagger bs. I only use it to share online petitions anyways--I never pay attention to my page. Somebody messaged me & I didn't notice it for 6 months, lol. I don't trust it--my profile says I work at Vandalay Industries.

[santamargarita]

40. I like that idea.

[AtheistCrusader]

25. The National Guard is under STATE control in this instance.

It would be a grossly insulting usurpation of power for the President to nationalize the National Guard under these circumstances.

Doing so, was a significant factor in the mis-application of the National Guard during the Rodney King riots. When controlled by the Governor, State Guard, and National Guard elements CAN work in a law enforcement capacity. The moment you federalize control, they are restricted from civilian law enforcement operations by the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878.

Arson that was getting under control when the National Guard (CANG elements) were doing law enforcement in the streets, reversed and increased after federalization, because their role changed. They stopped doing law enforcement/curfew patrols, and instead guarded chosen things (certain buildings) and manned fixed installations like checkpoints.

It threw gas on the fire, so to speak.

Your crazy conservative friend wanted Obama to repeat Bush Sr.'s mistake.

[IdaBriggs]

28. I thought I said it funnier.

ON EDIT: But I will reference the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 if he continues - thank you!!!

[AtheistCrusader]

29. OMG...

What the hell...

I must have stopped reading mid-paragraph. You totally did!

Mea culpa

[IdaBriggs]

30. But you got to use "Posse Comitatus Act of 1878" in a post --

and frankly, that is just WAY COOL and Super Impressive.

I think we both win the internet today!

[AtheistCrusader]

31. It is not often I get to trot that one out. Probably why I got all excited. :D

[IdaBriggs]

32. The whole double standard thing was what really got to me --

"Obama the Dictator" versus "Where's the National Guard, Obama?"

Seriously,

[AtheistCrusader]

33. They don't care about consistentcy or principle.

If Obama does something, it is automatically bad.
If Obama does nothing, it is automatically bad.

They have enough yammering head commentators in the right wing media, they can always find 3 or four that will fabricate some scathing attack over whichever position Obama takes. 2-3 is all they need to foment reality for the viewers of such bile.

Edit: It's really quite frightening when you think about it.

[samsingh]

26. good - it's important to challenge repugs

otherwise they fester in their own shit

[groundloop]

38. Agreed.... One reason their bullshit spreads so fast is that it's largely unchallenged

Many young adults who are still figuring out their political leanings are especially likely to be influenced by the opinions of those around them. If the only opinion they hear is that President Obama and all Democrats are evil snake devils who are ruining the country they'll start to buy into that. I think it's important to offer a calm, sane, unemotional answer to as many right wing smears as possible.

Edit to add: Ask John Kerry how it worked out when he chose to ignore blatant right wing lies.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

27. Good for you. But you know you can't talk sense to these RWers.

Anything, ANYTHING, Obama does is spun as extreme or downright evil by the RW media and that spin is taken as gospel by their fans.

[lovemydog]

34. Not only do I enjoy your response. I'm impressed you didn't use !!!????

Happy Thanksgiving IdaBriggs.

[chervilant]

35. The penultimate oxymoron:

"Crazy Conservative" and "Friend."

I have several conservatives in my family, and they no longer spew their garbage in front of me. If they weren't "family," I'd have nothing to do with them.

[Historic NY]

37. Should have told him that Obama isn't in charge

of the National Guard unless he federalizes it...like for FEMA camp roundups.