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GOP plots pathetic new ways to pester Obama: Dont let him give a State of the Union!Sure, whatever. But will this be enough for the hotheads? On the one hand, they, being members of Congress, are probably not interested in working any more days than they have to, so they may be willing to go along with a plan that allows them to save face while kicking the problem into the new year. But the problem will still be around in the new year. Many times, apparently, if the idea is to vote on immigration enforcement related funding every 10 minutes. How many times will these Constitution-protecting Tea Party patriot members of Congress have to vote to Fund the Illegal Amnesty? Or will they just allow immigration enforcement related funding to lapse for an extended period of time?
The far-right elements will need some sort of bonus sweetener to go along with this plan. Politico lists several of the options floating around. You may have seen most of them by now. But theres one that we hadnt heard about yet. Can you guess? (HINT: Its the one weve put in bold.)
GOP aides and lawmakers say they expect the leadership to consider additional legislation to address the executive order, but there have been no decisions made on what those bills would look like. There are lots of ideas: Texas Sen. Ted Cruz has signaled he would hold up some of Obamas executive branch nominees, others privately have been musing about shutting the government down, refusing to invite the president to give his State of the Union address or censuring the president. Many in congressional leadership think these ideas are nonsensical, since it will not serve any practical purpose.
I'm at a loss for words but I do know this: they're a bunch of fucking lunatics.
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)and backward they are.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)neverforget
(9,436 posts)Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)Send him to bed without supper?
Make him write 100 times - I will not do any more Executive Orders?
Ground him for a month?
Take his cell phone away?
You are so right neverforget - they ARE a bunch of f'ing lunatics.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)It is going to be ugly for 2 years.
niyad
(113,336 posts)and con scholars out there to address that?
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)Spazito
(50,365 posts)"He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States."
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html
Old Codger
(4,205 posts)That he is required to meet them in person in order to present a state of the union, he isn't even required to present it every year...
During most of the country's first century, the President primarily just submitted a written report to Congress. With the advent of radio and television, the address is now broadcast live across the country on most networks.
While not required to deliver a speech, every president since Woodrow Wilson, with notable exception of Herbert Hoover,[5] has made at least one State of the Union report as a speech delivered before a joint session of Congress. Before that time, most presidents delivered the State of the Union as a written.
Spazito
(50,365 posts)as you say, the tradition of actually going before Congress to do so has been a long-standing one.
Retrograde
(10,137 posts)Obama could always do that, and give a separate address to the sane people in this country - but the networks would refuse to carry it.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)I mean, Obama could buy them a subscription to the NYT and his Constitutional duty would be fulfilled.
Gman
(24,780 posts)From the WH with only Democrats. And make the focus gridlock because of the GOP. They're too nuts tobe careful what they ask for as they just might get it.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)It's united oligarchy, not gridlocked democracy.
This is all theater to rally us into our Red and Blue teams, so we will not notice this:
US Is an Oligarchy Not a Democracy, says Scientific Study
http://www.businessinsider.com/major-study-finds-that-the-us-is-an-oligarchy-2014-4
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024819356
Mass spying on Americans? Both parties support it.
Handing the internet to corporations? Both parties support it.
Austerity for the masses? Both parties support it.
Cutting social safety nets? Both parties support it.
Corporatists in the cabinet? Both parties support it.
Tolling our interstate highways? Both parties support it.
Corporate education policy? Both parties support it.
Bank bailouts? Both parties support it.
Ignoring the trillions stashed overseas? Both parties support it.
Trans-Pacific Job/Wage Killing Secret Agreement? Both parties support it.
TISA corporate overlord agreement? Both parties support it.
Drilling and fracking? Both parties support it.
Wars on medical marijuana instead of corrupt banks? Both parties support it.
Deregulation of the food industry? Both parties support it.
GMO's? Both parties support it.
Privatization of the TVA? Both parties support it.
Immunity for telecoms? Both parties support it.
"Looking forward" and letting war criminals off the hook? Both parties support it.
Deciding torturers are patriots? Both parties support it.
Militarized police and assaults on protesters? Both parties support it.
Indefinite detention? Both parties support it.
Drone wars and kill lists? Both parties support it.
Targeting of journalists and whistleblowers? Both parties support it.
Private prisons replacing public prisons? Both parties support it.
Unions? Both parties view them with contempt.
Trillion dollar increase in nuclear weapons? Both parties support it.
New war in Iraq. Both parties support it.
New war in Syria. Both parties support it.
Carpet bombing of captive population in Gaza. Both parties support it.
Spazito
(50,365 posts)nichomachus
(12,754 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)All bullshit, and transparently so.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)That would devastate the Boner.
neverforget
(9,436 posts)Tanning salons too.
spanone
(135,844 posts)neverforget
(9,436 posts)It goes to 11
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)Lets be clear, these are very clever people that know exactly what they're doing and why. What puzzles me most though, is the denial of most white Americans of these facts.
Euphoria
(448 posts)RKP5637
(67,111 posts)what they are often saying for example, ACA, immigration reform, some equal rights here and there ... often between the lines they are saying we don't want those brown skinned people getting anything. The GOP has gathered under one tent for the most part racists, homophobes, sociopaths, control freaks, authoritarians, cheats, haters, religious freaks and ultra-greed.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)liberalhistorian
(20,818 posts)that I can take much more of this. And they're not even fully in charge yet!
vlyons
(10,252 posts)there is nothing the racist hate-mongers would like more than to see the "lawless" president handcuffed and marched out of white house. Unless it's seeing POTUS in an orange jumpsuit at his arraignment for being black. Their arrogance and hatred are a big brick wall that keeps out all reason and loving kindness.
quaker bill
(8,224 posts)But I think the people who voted with the thought that giving republicans control of both houses would create effective government will be rudely surprised.
What it will do is take the fighting to a whole new level. For the last 4 years the Senate could just sit and refuse to act on the lunacy, so PBO did not need to, because it never got to his desk.
Now some, if not all of it will get to his desk and he will need to veto, and he will veto regularly. This simply takes the same fight to a higher and much more reportable level.
The Senate letting a stupid bill die in committee is rarely newsworthy, but the President vetoing the same stupid bill is always reportable.