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For fifteen years, the Wizard of the cesspool FreeRepublic has been beyond adamant that his little sewer would never -never- adopt an advertising, pay, or membership model. Well, what have we here?
... the beginning of the end? One can but hope.
"Alternatives to donor based, ie, freepathon business model"
April 19, 2012 | Jim Robinson
Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2012 16:22:35 by Jim Robinson
I've checked with an ad agency. We can probably raise the funds we need to operate FR at our current level and at the current market price for online advertising if we run a banner ad at the top of every page and at least one rectangular ad in the above the fold body of the page and a couple rectangular ads in the sidebar. If that doesn't generate enough revenue, we can also run pop ups or pop unders and we can even run audio and video ads if need be. But of course, if we go full bore commercial, we'd have to insure strict copyright compliance with very brief excerpting of all articles to avoid lawsuits. And the agency would require that we install a filter to censor out any bad or unacceptable words in our posts.
Or, of course, there's always the membership model. We could setup a members only system where paying members get full access and non-paying members get throttled back, etc.
I don't like either of the above models and think we'd soon lose a lot of our readers and participants. Of course that may happen anyway if we can't fund it and if we cannot get our equipment problem under control, or if my refusal to vote for or support an abortionist/homosexualist/statist who has plans to install ObamaCare, er, I mean RomneyCare into all 50 states runs everyone off.
The donation model has served us very well since 1997 when we first started using it. It's very clean, uncomplicated and we attract participants who perhaps can't afford membership dues but do want to join the discussion and join our rallies, protests, prayer sessions, etc. And the advertising model would probably bring in the revenue, but it comes with strings attached.
I'm sure there are other ways and ways to combine features of various models, sell books, cds, gear, etc, offer no ads for paid subscribers, etc, even ISP services, but all of these also complicate matters.
I'm an old dog and I like to avoid new tricks, new complications, additional overhead, additional accounting, additional rules and regulations, etc, wherever possible. I like to stick to simplicity and with what works.
Thank you all very much for your continuing participation and support.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2874129/posts
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)The internet began as a DARPA project - NOT a private enterprise. The free market only piggybacked onto it.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,319 posts)and gave it away for free! Damn, the CERN tunnel even reaches into France! What kind of an self-respected American free market fanatic could bear to be such a looter of other people's work? RimJob should go back to the telegraph and Morse Code - there's a proper all-American private invention.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)Is it possible?
Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)Or Geocities, that still around? I mean it already looks like shit and it's about as relevant as the Vanilla Ice fan pages still hosted there that haven't been updated since 1997, so why not?
RZM
(8,556 posts)It was acquired by Yahoo in the late 90s and they quietly put an end to it about 3-4 years ago.
white_wolf
(6,238 posts)According to Wikipedia, it is available in Japan so he could move there, but I think America has caused Japan enough pain and suffering over the years, so that probably isn't a good plan.
BumRushDaShow
(129,030 posts)Kaleva
(36,304 posts)making every post there seem like it was written by James Stewart. " Oh Golly Now! Shucks! Shucks I say! ",
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,517 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Karma running over their dogma.
Arkansas Granny
(31,517 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)smb
(3,471 posts)LOL -- what kind of ads could those losers attract? Buy-gold scams? Fake "herbal viagra"?
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)A word filter wouldn't work because of all the spelling mistakes in Freepers' posts.
Amerigo Vespucci
(30,885 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)Now you're getting it, son!
BumRushDaShow
(129,030 posts)and put himself and the rest of his roaches out of their misery. Since the "establishment" pukes have spoken with their support of Rmoney and their heads have all exploded, time for the zombies to say goodnight.
The Republican Party does not need or want them anymore. That crazy right wing heyday has ENDED.
Dead_Parrot
(14,478 posts)...as an officially recognized pseudonym for RimJob.
tanyev
(42,559 posts)TeaBagsAreForCups
(356 posts)...Seems like one of the FR monkeys disagrees:
"FR is the best site on the web... great looking, user friendly, and obviously chock full of good info. Its like an oasis.... no flashing ads or garish colors.
Anything you could do to maintain the visual integrity of the site would be appreciated."
93 posted on Thursday, April 19, 2012 21:55:32 by Third Person
Codeine
(25,586 posts)in keeping with the general technological sophistication of the site.
anti-alec
(420 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)anti-alec
(420 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)Is it real?
freshwest
(53,661 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,319 posts)NoGOPZone
(2,971 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)It should be taken down just due to the pure awfulness of it
BumRushDaShow
(129,030 posts)It looks like this!
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Any banners there should be addressed as to what kind of talk goes on over there. Worse than Rush Limpballs shit.
Permanut
(5,608 posts)and good catch. I'm hoping Rimjob can manage to stay around until November, and keep screaming to all who will listen that Rmoney is a "abortionist/homosexualist/statist".
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)If you want actual money you'll need to genuflect before the feet of the all powerful abortion-enabling, TEH GAY lurvin' Mitt.
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)Come on DimJim, admit it. You just want to stuff more $$$ in your pockets and have your sheepies think you're doing the right thing at the same time. It might just work, you're dealing with willfully ignorant RWingnuts.
TeaBagsAreForCups
(356 posts)RimJob Cries Uncle! [from the DUmp]
Democraps Underground ^ | 4/19/12 | The DUmp
Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2012 20:38:57 by Jim Robinson
RimJob Cries Uncle! ....
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2874239/posts
... wherein the Wizard himself posts a thread dedicated to this DU thread - and the monkeys gather round to delicately discuss just what is a "RimJob" amongst their typical feces tossing, so to speak.
Hilarity ensues!
kiri
(794 posts)Robinson seeks $90,000 per quarter = $1000/day.
Does his LLC pay any taxes on these "donations" which he uses for personal expenses? What is the law? He has never released his tax returns.
He is a Vet. He receives many veterans benefits, disability benefits, VA benefits for health, about $900/month (catastrophic health threats are included, without him having to pay anything). Obviously, he is entitled to them.
But he is a major hypocrite---complaining endlessly about "big government" while taking its benefits. Which we taxpayers pay for.
mac56
(17,569 posts)Sorry, old joke, couldn't resist.
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Problem 1: you can't serve a commercial website from a Commodore 64. With the perma-begathon business model he uses, one would think he could at least afford a Walmart-grade PC.
Problem 2: no commercial entity is going to want to be served by a site that looks like his. Mr. Robinson, I know you're reading this so listen up: YOUR SITE LOOKS BAD. It looks like an antique. Like it was written when your hero Reagan was still in office...BTW you DO know Ronald Reagan signed 11 tax hikes, tripled both the deficit and the national debt, and committed textbook treason by arming Iran, right? If you really expect to become a commercial site, PLEASE transition to PHPbb, which is free and looks like modern software.
Problem 3: stalinist purges. How exactly he plans to stay in business if he zots everyone who supports the de facto Republican nominee I don't know. And, probably, neither does he but that never stopped him before. He is going to have to accept a slightly broader worldview on his site if he wants commercial support.
And none of these things are solvable so long as Jim Robinson owns Free Republic.
Sandy2k
(22 posts)Hey guys be nice to Free Republic- they oppose Mitt!
Jim Robinson feels the nation is better off with a second Obama term.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Translation - I found a google cache of a long since defunct message board where they said they were raking in MILLIONS!
Rowdyboy
(22,057 posts)They're also fretting over the fact that we're making fun of them here for their woes. Their website was probably state of the art in 1993. Today, not so much....What unbelievable losers...
onethatcares
(16,168 posts)were already 4 years behind with the 1993 technology they have.
NoGOPZone
(2,971 posts)His method of funding isn't the only thing stuck in 1997
Erose999
(5,624 posts)You know, metaphorically.
Erose999
(5,624 posts)their fucking TRS-80 server.
But it might be an improvement since most of the old Freepers are probably still connecting via AOL dialup, lol.
mojitojoe
(94 posts)Let's see...at the rate they are going it looks like they should make their second quarter financial goals about a week into the third quarter. Good business plan. </sarcasm>
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)It's a business?
rocktivity
(44,576 posts)Last edited Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:02 PM - Edit history (1)
We could set up a...system where paying members get full access and non-paying members get throttled back, etc."
Eew -- Dumbest. Idea. Ever. Only the most idiotic bunch of Grade-A idiots would try something as idiotic as a membership model...uh-oh...oops...sorry...
rocktivity
onethatcares
(16,168 posts)I'm not really surprised that he wouldn't like additional accounting though.
TeaBagsAreForCups
(356 posts)Monthly Expenses:
Bandwidth and Colocation $2,430
Systems and Programming 7,000
Management and Admin + Taxes 13,500
Legal and Accounting 1,000
Bank Fees, Credit Card Fees, Processing Fees 900
Equip, Maintenance and Repairs 600
Office Expenses, Rents, Insurance, Telephone, ISP, Supplies,Allowance for Declines/Cancels 2,500
Travel Expenses 1,200
Total: $29,130
[url]https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/budget[/url]
(... if you can't access the link directly, go to [url]http://www.freerepublic.com/home.htm[/url] and scroll down to the headline "Who runs FR?" where you will find the link to the budget.)
Note the two highlighted categories; that's over 20K$/month - almost seventy percent of the "budget." In my opinion, any reasonable person will quickly presume, much less any nominal audit would probably determine - is "accounted" for in those two items that go directly, or quickly indirectly, into RimJob and his family's pocket.
As is apocryphally credited to P.T. Barnum, there is indeed one "born every minute." By selling hate, hypocrisy, and vile and incarnate evil, RimJob's presumably capturing a cool quarter million from his little cesspool of suckers every year.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)Conference call.