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TeaBagsAreForCups

(356 posts)
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 06:36 PM Apr 2012

RimJob Cries Uncle!

For fifteen years, the Wizard of the cesspool FreeRepublic has been beyond adamant that his little sewer would never -never- adopt an advertising, pay, or membership model. Well, what have we here?

... the beginning of the end? One can but hope.

"Alternatives to donor based, ie, freepathon business model"
April 19, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2012 16:22:35 by Jim Robinson

I've checked with an ad agency. We can probably raise the funds we need to operate FR at our current level and at the current market price for online advertising if we run a banner ad at the top of every page and at least one rectangular ad in the above the fold body of the page and a couple rectangular ads in the sidebar. If that doesn't generate enough revenue, we can also run pop ups or pop unders and we can even run audio and video ads if need be. But of course, if we go full bore commercial, we'd have to insure strict copyright compliance with very brief excerpting of all articles to avoid lawsuits. And the agency would require that we install a filter to censor out any bad or unacceptable words in our posts.

Or, of course, there's always the membership model. We could setup a members only system where paying members get full access and non-paying members get throttled back, etc.

I don't like either of the above models and think we'd soon lose a lot of our readers and participants. Of course that may happen anyway if we can't fund it and if we cannot get our equipment problem under control, or if my refusal to vote for or support an abortionist/homosexualist/statist who has plans to install ObamaCare, er, I mean RomneyCare into all 50 states runs everyone off.

The donation model has served us very well since 1997 when we first started using it. It's very clean, uncomplicated and we attract participants who perhaps can't afford membership dues but do want to join the discussion and join our rallies, protests, prayer sessions, etc. And the advertising model would probably bring in the revenue, but it comes with strings attached.

I'm sure there are other ways and ways to combine features of various models, sell books, cds, gear, etc, offer no ads for paid subscribers, etc, even ISP services, but all of these also complicate matters.

I'm an old dog and I like to avoid new tricks, new complications, additional overhead, additional accounting, additional rules and regulations, etc, wherever possible. I like to stick to simplicity and with what works.

Thank you all very much for your continuing participation and support.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2874129/posts

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RimJob Cries Uncle! (Original Post) TeaBagsAreForCups Apr 2012 OP
Or he can get the eff off this socialist network altogether Zalatix Apr 2012 #1
And then a Brit working in a project of international govts in Switzerland invented the web protocol muriel_volestrangler Apr 2012 #36
Um...sounds like Free Republic might have to...EVOLVE! CJCRANE Apr 2012 #2
He should just move it to a Tripod member site. Union Scribe Apr 2012 #3
Geocities isn't around anymore RZM Apr 2012 #4
Not completley acurate. white_wolf Apr 2012 #22
Angelfire! BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #14
If they went full commercial, all the bad words would be filtered out... Kaleva Apr 2012 #5
May they all be Rmoney ads. n/t hootinholler Apr 2012 #6
+1 Would you call that poetic justice? Arkansas Granny Apr 2012 #9
More like hootinholler Apr 2012 #27
I just hate when that happens. Arkansas Granny Apr 2012 #28
You win the internets, hoot! hifiguy Apr 2012 #39
He 'spoke to an ad agency'? Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2012 #7
Where's He Gonna Get Advertisers? smb Apr 2012 #54
This will never work... NYC Liberal Apr 2012 #8
Good thing for RimJob that the average freeper is too fucking stupid to install AdBlock Plus Amerigo Vespucci Apr 2012 #10
I served myself a piece of Schadenfreude Pie and took the first bite when I read this one: Brickbat Apr 2012 #11
He should just shut it all down BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #12
YEP. janx Apr 2012 #52
I hereby nominate "Wizard of the cesspool"... Dead_Parrot Apr 2012 #13
Wow, how do you "throttle back" when your starting point is already quite primitive? tanyev Apr 2012 #15
Rose Colored Glasses... TeaBagsAreForCups Apr 2012 #34
All the ads would be for products and services from 1992, Codeine Apr 2012 #16
Shock the Monkey! anti-alec Apr 2012 #20
He needs to contact whoever set up North Korea's Gov't site. nt. polly7 Apr 2012 #17
Or this idiot that made this gem anti-alec Apr 2012 #21
Holy sh* that hurts the eyes. polly7 Apr 2012 #24
Must have had that page designed by Infowars! LOL! freshwest Apr 2012 #35
See: the DU Skeptics Group Theory of Eye-Watering Web Design and Nuttiness muriel_volestrangler Apr 2012 #38
Warning, may cause seizures nt NoGOPZone Apr 2012 #40
Holy shit that's a horrible website snooper2 Apr 2012 #45
OMG I finally got around to clicking on that link BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #53
How about a boycott Politicalboi Apr 2012 #18
Great news, Teabags... Permanut Apr 2012 #19
News flash, nimrod: the creationist clucknuts who make up the GOP base are rich only in Cheetohs. Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #23
It shouldn't cost very much to run a website that looks like it is stuck in a 1995 time warp. lpbk2713 Apr 2012 #25
FR: What's A "RimJob"?! TeaBagsAreForCups Apr 2012 #26
$1000/day kiri Apr 2012 #30
"Twenty bucks, Father, same as downtown!" mac56 Apr 2012 #46
There are a few problems he'd have to solve before going "full bore commercial" jmowreader Apr 2012 #29
Free Republic is supporting Obama in 2012 Sandy2k Apr 2012 #31
"I checked with an ad agency" Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #32
Schadenfreude, sweet, sweet schadenfreude.... Rowdyboy Apr 2012 #33
since they started in 1997, they onethatcares Apr 2012 #49
"operate at our current level" NoGOPZone Apr 2012 #37
Dear Free Republic: Eat shit! Erose999 Apr 2012 #41
The thought of a "Free Republic" ISP is ho-freaking-larious. They're barely able to run that shitty Erose999 Apr 2012 #42
Maybe if they hadn't banned anyone who disagreed with JimRob? mojitojoe Apr 2012 #43
Welcome to DU! ScreamingMeemie Apr 2012 #44
"Or, of course, there's always the membership model. rocktivity Apr 2012 #47
maybe he should have a prayerathon for the hamster onethatcares Apr 2012 #48
Indeed, Over 20K$/Month into the RimJob's Family Pockets? TeaBagsAreForCups Apr 2012 #50
Two words, JimRob: proud2BlibKansan Apr 2012 #51
 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
1. Or he can get the eff off this socialist network altogether
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 06:38 PM
Apr 2012

The internet began as a DARPA project - NOT a private enterprise. The free market only piggybacked onto it.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,319 posts)
36. And then a Brit working in a project of international govts in Switzerland invented the web protocol
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 03:21 PM
Apr 2012

and gave it away for free! Damn, the CERN tunnel even reaches into France! What kind of an self-respected American free market fanatic could bear to be such a looter of other people's work? RimJob should go back to the telegraph and Morse Code - there's a proper all-American private invention.

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
3. He should just move it to a Tripod member site.
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 06:49 PM
Apr 2012

Or Geocities, that still around? I mean it already looks like shit and it's about as relevant as the Vanilla Ice fan pages still hosted there that haven't been updated since 1997, so why not?

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
4. Geocities isn't around anymore
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 06:50 PM
Apr 2012

It was acquired by Yahoo in the late 90s and they quietly put an end to it about 3-4 years ago.

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
22. Not completley acurate.
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 08:48 PM
Apr 2012

According to Wikipedia, it is available in Japan so he could move there, but I think America has caused Japan enough pain and suffering over the years, so that probably isn't a good plan.

Kaleva

(36,304 posts)
5. If they went full commercial, all the bad words would be filtered out...
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 06:55 PM
Apr 2012

making every post there seem like it was written by James Stewart. " Oh Golly Now! Shucks! Shucks I say! ",

smb

(3,471 posts)
54. Where's He Gonna Get Advertisers?
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:16 AM
Apr 2012

LOL -- what kind of ads could those losers attract? Buy-gold scams? Fake "herbal viagra"?

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
8. This will never work...
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 07:05 PM
Apr 2012
And the agency would require that we install a filter to censor out any bad or unacceptable words in our posts.


A word filter wouldn't work because of all the spelling mistakes in Freepers' posts.

Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
10. Good thing for RimJob that the average freeper is too fucking stupid to install AdBlock Plus
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 07:08 PM
Apr 2012
"If that doesn't generate enough revenue, we can also run pop ups or pop unders and we can even run audio and video ads if need be."




Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
11. I served myself a piece of Schadenfreude Pie and took the first bite when I read this one:
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 07:10 PM
Apr 2012
Seriously folks, this is just embarrassing, the display of hypocrisy here. We're all for doing it ourselves, and when it comes time to pony up for what we've used and enjoyed, TOO MANY of us stuff our hands into our pockets, whistle and slowly sneak away.


Now you're getting it, son!

BumRushDaShow

(129,030 posts)
12. He should just shut it all down
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 07:14 PM
Apr 2012

and put himself and the rest of his roaches out of their misery. Since the "establishment" pukes have spoken with their support of Rmoney and their heads have all exploded, time for the zombies to say goodnight.

janx

(24,128 posts)
52. YEP.
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 12:58 PM
Apr 2012

The Republican Party does not need or want them anymore. That crazy right wing heyday has ENDED.

TeaBagsAreForCups

(356 posts)
34. Rose Colored Glasses...
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 08:22 AM
Apr 2012

...Seems like one of the FR monkeys disagrees:

"FR is the best site on the web... great looking, user friendly, and obviously chock full of good info. It’s like an oasis.... no flashing ads or garish colors.

Anything you could do to maintain the visual integrity of the site would be appreciated."

93 posted on Thursday, April 19, 2012 21:55:32 by Third Person

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
16. All the ads would be for products and services from 1992,
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 07:21 PM
Apr 2012

in keeping with the general technological sophistication of the site.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
45. Holy shit that's a horrible website
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 05:23 PM
Apr 2012


It should be taken down just due to the pure awfulness of it
 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
18. How about a boycott
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 07:36 PM
Apr 2012

Any banners there should be addressed as to what kind of talk goes on over there. Worse than Rush Limpballs shit.

Permanut

(5,608 posts)
19. Great news, Teabags...
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 08:30 PM
Apr 2012

and good catch. I'm hoping Rimjob can manage to stay around until November, and keep screaming to all who will listen that Rmoney is a "abortionist/homosexualist/statist".

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
23. News flash, nimrod: the creationist clucknuts who make up the GOP base are rich only in Cheetohs.
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 08:50 PM
Apr 2012

If you want actual money you'll need to genuflect before the feet of the all powerful abortion-enabling, TEH GAY lurvin' Mitt.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
25. It shouldn't cost very much to run a website that looks like it is stuck in a 1995 time warp.
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 08:59 PM
Apr 2012


Come on DimJim, admit it. You just want to stuff more $$$ in your pockets and have your sheepies think you're doing the right thing at the same time. It might just work, you're dealing with willfully ignorant RWingnuts.

TeaBagsAreForCups

(356 posts)
26. FR: What's A "RimJob"?!
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 09:33 PM
Apr 2012

RimJob Cries Uncle! [from the DUmp]
Democraps Underground ^ | 4/19/12 | The DUmp

Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2012 20:38:57 by Jim Robinson

RimJob Cries Uncle! ....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2874239/posts

... wherein the Wizard himself posts a thread dedicated to this DU thread - and the monkeys gather round to delicately discuss just what is a "RimJob" amongst their typical feces tossing, so to speak.

Hilarity ensues!

kiri

(794 posts)
30. $1000/day
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 11:20 PM
Apr 2012

Robinson seeks $90,000 per quarter = $1000/day.

Does his LLC pay any taxes on these "donations" which he uses for personal expenses? What is the law? He has never released his tax returns.

He is a Vet. He receives many veterans benefits, disability benefits, VA benefits for health, about $900/month (catastrophic health threats are included, without him having to pay anything). Obviously, he is entitled to them.

But he is a major hypocrite---complaining endlessly about "big government" while taking its benefits. Which we taxpayers pay for.



jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
29. There are a few problems he'd have to solve before going "full bore commercial"
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 11:15 PM
Apr 2012

Problem 1: you can't serve a commercial website from a Commodore 64. With the perma-begathon business model he uses, one would think he could at least afford a Walmart-grade PC.

Problem 2: no commercial entity is going to want to be served by a site that looks like his. Mr. Robinson, I know you're reading this so listen up: YOUR SITE LOOKS BAD. It looks like an antique. Like it was written when your hero Reagan was still in office...BTW you DO know Ronald Reagan signed 11 tax hikes, tripled both the deficit and the national debt, and committed textbook treason by arming Iran, right? If you really expect to become a commercial site, PLEASE transition to PHPbb, which is free and looks like modern software.

Problem 3: stalinist purges. How exactly he plans to stay in business if he zots everyone who supports the de facto Republican nominee I don't know. And, probably, neither does he but that never stopped him before. He is going to have to accept a slightly broader worldview on his site if he wants commercial support.

And none of these things are solvable so long as Jim Robinson owns Free Republic.

Sandy2k

(22 posts)
31. Free Republic is supporting Obama in 2012
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 11:22 PM
Apr 2012

Hey guys be nice to Free Republic- they oppose Mitt!

Jim Robinson feels the nation is better off with a second Obama term.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
32. "I checked with an ad agency"
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 11:22 PM
Apr 2012

Translation - I found a google cache of a long since defunct message board where they said they were raking in MILLIONS!

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
33. Schadenfreude, sweet, sweet schadenfreude....
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 11:48 PM
Apr 2012

They're also fretting over the fact that we're making fun of them here for their woes. Their website was probably state of the art in 1993. Today, not so much....What unbelievable losers...

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
42. The thought of a "Free Republic" ISP is ho-freaking-larious. They're barely able to run that shitty
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 04:07 PM
Apr 2012

their fucking TRS-80 server.

But it might be an improvement since most of the old Freepers are probably still connecting via AOL dialup, lol.

mojitojoe

(94 posts)
43. Maybe if they hadn't banned anyone who disagreed with JimRob?
Fri Apr 20, 2012, 05:11 PM
Apr 2012

Let's see...at the rate they are going it looks like they should make their second quarter financial goals about a week into the third quarter. Good business plan. </sarcasm>

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
47. "Or, of course, there's always the membership model.
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 10:14 AM
Apr 2012

Last edited Fri Nov 9, 2018, 01:02 PM - Edit history (1)

We could set up a...system where paying members get full access and non-paying members get throttled back, etc."

Eew -- Dumbest. Idea. Ever. Only the most idiotic bunch of Grade-A idiots would try something as idiotic as a membership model...uh-oh...oops...sorry...


rocktivity

onethatcares

(16,168 posts)
48. maybe he should have a prayerathon for the hamster
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 10:27 AM
Apr 2012

I'm not really surprised that he wouldn't like additional accounting though.

TeaBagsAreForCups

(356 posts)
50. Indeed, Over 20K$/Month into the RimJob's Family Pockets?
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 12:03 PM
Apr 2012
... from their published FR "Budget"

Monthly Expenses:

Bandwidth and Colocation $2,430
Systems and Programming 7,000
Management and Admin + Taxes 13,500
Legal and Accounting 1,000
Bank Fees, Credit Card Fees, Processing Fees 900
Equip, Maintenance and Repairs 600
Office Expenses, Rents, Insurance, Telephone, ISP, Supplies,Allowance for Declines/Cancels 2,500
Travel Expenses 1,200

Total: $29,130

[url]https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/budget[/url]

(... if you can't access the link directly, go to [url]http://www.freerepublic.com/home.htm[/url] and scroll down to the headline "Who runs FR?" where you will find the link to the budget.)

Note the two highlighted categories; that's over 20K$/month - almost seventy percent of the "budget." In my opinion, any reasonable person will quickly presume, much less any nominal audit would probably determine - is "accounted" for in those two items that go directly, or quickly indirectly, into RimJob and his family's pocket.

As is apocryphally credited to P.T. Barnum, there is indeed one "born every minute." By selling hate, hypocrisy, and vile and incarnate evil, RimJob's presumably capturing a cool quarter million from his little cesspool of suckers every year.
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