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UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 06:02 AM Nov 2014

Entire county board arrested following citizens arrest by 2 military veterans

Clark County, Illinois — Sometimes citizens can be so frustrated with county board members they wish someone could just place them under arrest. Well, that is exactly what citizens in Clark County, Illinois did .

Illinois’ number one manufactured product is corruption. More than 95 percent of the Illinois legislature is safe in gerrymandered districts. The incumbent governor has three current federal investigations of his administration, but the Attorney General/state’s attorney class can’t find public vice anywhere.

Residents that voted in the recent election said they are hoping officials have learned from the past mistakes of others.

So what can the law abiding citizen do? The answer is coming from some regular guys in southern Illinois who decided to hold public officials accountable. They call themselves the “Watchdogs.”


http://www.ocalapost.com/entire-county-board-arrested-following-citizens-arrest-by-2-military-veterans/

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Entire county board arrested following citizens arrest by 2 military veterans (Original Post) UglyGreed Nov 2014 OP
So very interesting. Control-Z Nov 2014 #1
Let's hope this spreads. Big thanks to Allen and Kraft. Scuba Nov 2014 #2
Wall Street? OldRedneck Nov 2014 #3
The thugs will beat your ass RedCappedBandit Nov 2014 #6
Can you swing by Texas? vlyons Nov 2014 #18
This sounds tea-party/"sovereign citizen"-y... Recursion Nov 2014 #4
I can see your UglyGreed Nov 2014 #20
this has a totally wingnut flavor to it. cali Nov 2014 #5
It does RedCappedBandit Nov 2014 #7
ECWD are a group of Teabagger douchenozzles. n/t ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #8
I believe it. This is their MO and they've been practicing at it. freshwest Nov 2014 #26
All of those things, and then some, sadly. ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #27
Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #28
Look, we got trolled. But MIRT must have removed that one or the others. I've been offline. freshwest Nov 2014 #32
So it would seem. Our MIRT folks are very good at what they do. n/t ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #33
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #29
Seems from a quick perusal a fairly indiscriminate approach. Most of the "offenses" targeted seem hlthe2b Nov 2014 #30
Let this be an example. Enthusiast Nov 2014 #9
Need to replicate the "Watchdogs". sendero Nov 2014 #10
They should publish a citizen's advisory book. Hoppy Nov 2014 #11
What is this Tea Bagger nonsense? alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #12
4 of 7 last Illinois governors convicted/imprisoned Renew Deal Nov 2014 #17
Sounds like code for anti-Obama LeftInTX Nov 2014 #24
Despite the extremely favorable spin these "watchdogs" are getting ... surrealAmerican Nov 2014 #13
That vote was a mistake Renew Deal Nov 2014 #15
Which is a Class C misdemeanor under Illinois law Lurks Often Nov 2014 #16
Great story Renew Deal Nov 2014 #14
Read to the end. ffr Nov 2014 #19
IMO We have to be careful UglyGreed Nov 2014 #21
This is not something to celebrate Capt. Obvious Nov 2014 #22
I understand. Bad times can UglyGreed Nov 2014 #23
Sounds teabaggerish tbh. ncjustice80 Nov 2014 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author MohRokTah Nov 2014 #31
 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
3. Wall Street?
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 07:42 AM
Nov 2014

Anyone want to join me -- I'm headed for Wall Street with a truckload of handcuffs and I'm planning to arrest banksters -- Eric Holder won't do it, someone's gotta do it.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
18. Can you swing by Texas?
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 09:10 AM
Nov 2014

and put some cuffs on Jeb Hensarling? He's chair of the Finance Committee TX-05.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
20. I can see your
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 11:30 AM
Nov 2014

point, but maybe, just maybe the threat is enough to bring the politicians in line and work for the people, not for the money. I'll take a wait and see approach.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
26. I believe it. This is their MO and they've been practicing at it.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 05:43 AM
Nov 2014

Wondering what kind of corruption they are fighting?

Recognizing same sex marriage? Not deporting people with hispanic accents? Employing people they consider communist?

I could go on and one, but this sounds more like the far right than anything else.

ColesCountyDem

(6,943 posts)
27. All of those things, and then some, sadly.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 07:30 AM
Nov 2014

They sheriff mention in the article, Sheriff Parsley, is a 'constitutional sheriff' wing nut who says he will refuse to enforce any additional federal gun-control legislation and arrest any federal law-enforcement officer tries to enforce said laws. Most of the ECWD memebers are also members of various right wing, libertarian and/or 'hate groups'.

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hlthe2b

(102,285 posts)
30. Seems from a quick perusal a fairly indiscriminate approach. Most of the "offenses" targeted seem
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 12:03 PM
Nov 2014

rather small and in total, seem to rise to harassment. This really gives me an uneasy sense that you all may be of the anti-government "sovereign" type--who tie government in strings and refuse to accept the validity of ANY governmental agency. I surely would hope that is not the case.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
12. What is this Tea Bagger nonsense?
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 08:39 AM
Nov 2014
Illinois’ number one manufactured product is corruption.

Fuck you. No it isn't.

Illinois is one of the nation's manufacturing leaders, boasting annual value added productivity by manufacturing of over $107 billion in 2006. As of 2011, Illinois is ranked as the 4th most productive manufacturing state in the country, behind California, Texas, and Ohio.[93] About three-quarters of the state's manufacturers are located in the Northeastern Opportunity Return Region, with 38 percent of Illinois' approximately 18,900 manufacturing plants located in Cook County. As of 2006, the leading manufacturing industries in Illinois, based upon value-added, were chemical manufacturing ($18.3 billion), machinery manufacturing ($13.4 billion), food manufacturing ($12.9 billion), fabricated metal products ($11.5 billion), transportation equipment ($7.4 billion), plastics and rubber products ($7.0 billion), and computer and electronic products ($6.1 billion)


Oh, I get that they're just being "clever," but seriously, that is Tea Bagger code, (and usually has no small hint of racist bullshit to boot).

surrealAmerican

(11,361 posts)
13. Despite the extremely favorable spin these "watchdogs" are getting ...
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 08:44 AM
Nov 2014

... in this article, they sound more like they're harassing minor officials than holding them to account. This wasn't a county board, but a parks district board, and their only "crime" was voting not to allow public comment at one meeting.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
19. Read to the end.
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 09:17 AM
Nov 2014

RE: Kirk Allen and John Kraft — two military veterans

In what was one of their most epic displays of political crime-fighting, which was captured on video, Allen and Kraft held the entire Clark County Park District Board under citizen’s arrest on May 13, 2014, for violating the Illinois Open Meetings Act, a Class C misdemeanor.

When asked if there would be public comment, one of the board members said, “I vote no.” Followed by five other board members.

<snip>
“It’s not that they should have. They’re mandated to,” -Sheriff- Parsley said. “The people need to have their voice. It’s not a dictatorship. It’s a democracy.”

The sheriff arrested six of the board members.
The seventh board member was not arrested because he voted against the other members. As they were escorted out of the building, the crowd cheered.

The board had previously laughed at the watchdog group, calling them trouble makers; however, the Sheriff and the State Attorney’s Office didn’t see it that way.

Kraft said, “Every citizen, in every state, county, and city, should take note. Make sure their local government officials are working for the people, and not for themselves.”
Thought this was going the other way with teahadists arresting people at gunpoint, but it doesn't sound like it went down that way at all.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
21. IMO We have to be careful
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 04:22 PM
Nov 2014

that the new boss may be worse than the old boss and all that jazz. With the worship of the military from both sides of the aisle these days we could end up with someone from the military who might be a little too far right if get my drift.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
23. I understand. Bad times can
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 04:42 PM
Nov 2014

cause bad people to grab power and we end up like Germany in the 30s. I know people don't like others to mention that but the sort of threat exist.

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