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An example of just how lowly the world's corporate elite consider the 99-percent...
NUCLEAR CRISIS: HOW IT HAPPENED
Government radiation data disclosure--too little, too late
The Yomiuri Shimbun
June 11, 2011
EXCERPT...
At 8:39 a.m. on March 12, about 18 hours after the earthquake, radioactive tellurium-132 was detected in Namiemachi, Fukushima Prefecture, six kilometers from Tokyo Electric Power Co.'s damaged plant, according to the report from the agency.
The detection of Te-132 meant the temperature of nuclear fuel at the plant had shot up to more than 1,000 C. It also meant nuclear fuel pellets in the reactor cores had been damaged and nuclear material had leaked into the environment.
Seven hours later, a massive hydrogen explosion rocked the plant's No. 1 reactor.
Attempting to explain the delay in making the information public, agency spokesman Hidehiko Nishiyama said later, "We never meant to conceal the information, but it never occurred to us to make it public."
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I can understand overlooking the fact the entire planet might want to know about damaged nuclear plants spewing radiation all over the place.
Just an oversight....got it.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)What everyone should know:
DOE-STD-1128-98
Guide of Good Practices for Occupational Radiological Protection in Plutonium Facilities
EXCERPT...
4.2.3 Characteristics of Plutonium Contamination
[font color="green"]There are few characteristics of plutonium contamination that are unique. Plutonium
contamination may be in many physical and chemical forms. (See Section 2.0 for the many
potential sources of plutonium contamination from combustion products of a plutonium fire
to radiolytic products from long-term storage.) The one characteristic that many believe is
unique to plutonium is its ability to migrate with no apparent motive force. Whether from
alpha recoil or some other mechanism, plutonium contamination, if not contained or
removed, will spread relatively rapidly throughout an area. [/font color]
SOURCE (PDF file format): http://www.hss.doe.gov/nuclearsafety/techstds/docs/standard/DOE-STD-1128-2008.pdf
Some science news that seems to have been missed, with Mayor Bloomberg loving on Lady Gaga and everything...
J Environ Radioact. 2011 Dec 27. (Epub ahead of print)
Radionuclides from the Fukushima accident in the air over Lithuania: measurement and modelling approaches.
Lujanienė G, Byčenkienė S, Povinec PP, Gera M.
Source
Environmental Research Department, SRI Center for Physical Sciences and Technology, Savanoriu 231, 02300 Vilnius, Lithuania.
Abstract
Analyses of (131)I, (137)Cs and (134)Cs in airborne aerosols were carried out in daily samples in Vilnius, Lithuania after the Fukushima accident during the period of March-April, 2011. The activity concentrations of (131)I and (137)Cs ranged from 12 ?Bq/m(3) and 1.4 ?Bq/m(3) to 3700 ?Bq/m(3) and 1040 ?Bq/m(3), respectively. The activity concentration of (239,240)Pu in one aerosol sample collected from 23 March to 15 April, 2011 was found to be 44.5 nBq/m(3). The two maxima found in radionuclide concentrations were related to complicated long-range air mass transport from Japan across the Pacific, the North America and the Atlantic Ocean to Central Europe as indicated by modelling. HYSPLIT backward trajectories and meteorological data were applied for interpretation of activity variations of measured radionuclides observed at the site of investigation. (7)Be and (212)Pb activity concentrations and their ratios were used as tracers of vertical transport of air masses. Fukushima data were compared with the data obtained during the Chernobyl accident and in the post Chernobyl period. The activity concentrations of (131)I and (137)Cs were found to be by 4 orders of magnitude lower as compared to the Chernobyl accident. The activity ratio of (134)Cs/(137)Cs was around 1 with small variations only. The activity ratio of (238)Pu/(239,240)Pu in the aerosol sample was 1.2, indicating a presence of the spent fuel of different origin than that of the Chernobyl accident.
SOURCE: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22206700
And what a little bird told no one in particular...
Plutonium bioaccumulation in seabirds
Dagmara I. Strumińska-Parulska, Bogdan Skwarzec, Jacek Fabisiak
University of Gdańsk, Faculty of Chemistry, Analytics and Environmental Radiochemistry Chair, Sobieskiego 18, 80-952 Gdańsk, Poland
Received 7 April 2011. Revised 5 July 2011. Accepted 16 July 2011. Available online 23 August 2011.
The aim of the paper was plutonium (238Pu and 239+240Pu) determination in seabirds, permanently or temporarily living in northern Poland at the Baltic Sea coast. Together 11 marine birds species were examined: 3 species permanently residing in the southern Baltic, 4 species of wintering birds and 3 species of migrating birds. The obtained results indicated plutonium is non-uniformly distributed in organs and tissues of analyzed seabirds. The highest plutonium content was found in the digestion organs and feathers, the smallest in skin and muscles. The plutonium concentration was lower in analyzed species which feed on fish and much higher in herbivorous species. The main source of plutonium in analyzed marine birds was global atmospheric fallout.
Highlights
► We determined 239+240Pu in seabirds living in northern Poland at the Baltic Sea. ► We noticed plutonium was non-uniformly distributed in organs and tissues of seabirds. ► We found the highest plutonium content in the digestion organs and feathers. ► We found Pu content was lower in birds feeding on fish and higher in herbivorous.
SOURCE: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0265931X11001676
Gee. The plutonium must be from Chernobyl, seeing how Lithuania's clear on the other side of the world from Fukushima. Right?
Invisible things don't just "move." Right? Ask any global warming denier or GOP candidate.
Anyone remember reading about any of this in their local newspaper?
How about the tee vee? Anyone? Anyone?
Thank you, dixiegrrrrl, for caring about this.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Mr. Dixie and I have family on the West Coast, as well as numerous friends.
Every day I wonder what else we are not being told about the radiation issues.
Fortunately, I have long ago given up on expecting governments to tell us "small people" the truth,
so, like many of us, I depend on what we can dig up on the internets.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)The thing was on the tee vee, then -- POOF! All done. All OK. All happy now.
Yet, it's not. The Fukushima disaster continues. It's major and it's global. Still, my kids' friends and my friends look at me like I was from another planet when I bring it up.
Fukushima Radiation Data Quarantined by Governments of Japan and the United States. Why?
The brainwashing of this nation is something serious.
mick063
(2,424 posts)But it is extremely unlikely there is plutonium involved. More than likely enriched uranium.
The radiological concerns have likely more to do with beta/gamma radiation and related external dose as a health hazard as opposed to the fears of inhalation of alpha particles typically associated with plutonium exposure. Not saying airborne particulates are not a problem, but dose within the general area is the issue here.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Reactor No. 3 used MOX - the Mixed Oxide fuel, 94-percent uranium and 6-percent plutonium.
For some cost-cutting reason, the spent fuel rods were stored in the same building, directly above the reactor.
TEPCO said it was a "hydrogen explosion." Nuclear engineer Arnie Gundersen thinks it may've been something else.
I'm with Dr. Gundersen on this one.
mick063
(2,424 posts)If what you say is true, they have a bigger problem than what I imagined.
Those cheap "rubber band strap" dust masks I see them wearing on news broadcasts are nothing more than a false sesnse of security. The cleanup will be very expensive.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Reactor Number 3 stored the MOX fuel inside the containment building.
Regarding the dust masks, it is truly sad what the people of Japan are facing. Something from March 25, 2011 on the subject of TEPCO's treatment of its brave workers:
First thing I'd do if I were fighting this nuclear disaster is get the Team the best gear.
More from June 1, 2011:
Atomic Samurai -- IAEA Humbled By Worker Courage at Fukushima Daiichi
FWIW: I have friends who live on Honshu and other friends who once worked there but are now in the USA. Were I President, I'd extend an open invitation to all the Japanese people who would like to emigrate to the United States -- even the poor and old.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Won't someone PLEASE bring some reason and truthiness to this thread??? What's the source on the story? Maybe Hidehiko Nishiyama said a naughty word when he was a kid, so what he says now can be totally discredited? Hey, a difference of 1,000°C isn't all that much in some places in our solar system. Like the sun's surface. So this sort of thing occurs naturally all the time!
Whew. All better now.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)As you know, my Friend: People who go to, ah, such lengths to ridicule the message only served to increase the damage done.
Remember this shining light:
Interesting how the same techniques of ridicule used against those following the Fukushima disaster have also been employed against people interested in learning about the September 11 attacks and the assassination of President Kennedy.
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Here's a bit to add to the atomic pile:
Masanobu Shishikura: The Man Who Predicted the Tsunami in 2009.
British scientist 'predicted nuclear power station problem'
Toshiaki Sakai: Utility Engineer Warned of Tsunami Threat at Japanese Nuclear Plant in 2007
TEPCO did nothing, hoping for the best.
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)...you know why. The very ones making these decisions are sociopaths or weak minded fools who think their small fortune is worth all this destruction... talk about delusional. One day, I hope, the sociopaths are prevented from power, but I see them as a natural occurrence and am not sure what the answer is besides fighting back against their sickness.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)know how that turned out and the devastation that is still happening.
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)it's been proven not to work as is...
99Forever
(14,524 posts)... should we not be killed by the lack of basic decent medical availability or exposure from being homeless, that the 1% have a radioactive back up plan, just in case.
All hail unfettered capitalistic greed. Profits over people, ALWAYS!
( I wish I could say I was just being sarcastic.)
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)So glad I am an old man.... sorry kids. Maybe next time?
Anywho.... i have been a bird watcher for 30 years. Used to be, up until the mid 90's, everywhere you looked there was a bird of some kind. Saw hundreds a day. Began puzzling about why birds are now so rare.
Then, after Fukushima, started reading about research from around Chernobyl finding mutations in the birds there. And how a researcher in California found proof of nuke waste killing the birds there.
All that from after Chernobyl in 1986. Bye-bye birdies. The canary in the coal mine scenario. Pandora's box has been opened and it ain't closing.
Hey, it's been fun. Sorry kids.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Mnemosyne
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