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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah 41 votes against the Keystone Pipline
Most excellent
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,625 posts)cally
(21,594 posts)spanone
(135,838 posts)LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Thanks to all the senate Democrats who didn't buckle.
a kennedy
(29,668 posts)Ever watch C-SPIN when important votes are being cast? I really enjoy it...... Will hate it though when repubs take over... OMGOSH THERE'S a disruption in the senate chamber!!! It almost sounded like native Americans chanting to me....anyone else hear it?
RoverSuswade
(641 posts)Liz Warren was trying to hold back the giggles and keep her decor.
malaise
(269,012 posts)Wish I did
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)(DU-er named "slumcamper"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=947074
livetohike
(22,144 posts)monmouth4
(9,707 posts)malaise
(269,012 posts)but this is the beginning
cali
(114,904 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,660 posts)rather than waste it now in the lame duck session. Landrieux is going down anyway, no need for the Dems to vote for something stupid to 'support' her.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)have the vote overturned?
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)on both questions.
BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)And it'll be but one, small thing that the TPP will bulldoze over and through. And you can really bet there's no VETO standing in the way of that screwing!
belzabubba333
(1,237 posts)Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)http://www.citizen.org/Page.aspx?pid=1218
calimary
(81,283 posts)Glad you're here! Stunning and really gratifying after the horrible election earlier this month. The first showdown and WE win it. How 'bout that!
STAND FIRM, MR. PRESIDENT!!!! Now, AND through the rest of this shit! Two years. That's all they've got. TWO YEARS, mitch. You'll just be settling in when we come and yank it back away from you. Knock yerself out, pal, 'cause you've only got two years. and the whole time you'll be scratching the teabagger fleas that will be infesting the Senate. Don't get too used to it, pal. You assholes will be back in the minority after we get through with you in 2016. I heard a report last night, on Lawrence O'Donnell's show I think, that Democrats have only one Senate seat to defend in 2016, when our crowd tends to show up big time anyway because it's a Presidential cycle. The bad guys have 20+ Senate seats to defend next time. Lawrence O'Donnell quoted from a GOP activist who predicted this exact fate for his party. Including their continuing expected exile from the White House.
So let's not prove that poor man to be a liar, shall we? Let's make damn sure his will have been a most accurate forecast. By then, who knows? Maybe if she remains a non-candidate, Elizabeth Warren will become Senate Majority Leader - OR Senate Whip.
procon
(15,805 posts)I hope every single Democrat who voted aye is drummed out of the party... starting with Mary Landreieu.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)I'm pretty certain MY Senate critters voted for it, but I'd be interest in who voted against it.
ETA: Job most excellent Harry Reid!
malaise
(269,012 posts)Won't be long
steve2470
(37,457 posts)figured they would vote again when the newbies were sworn in, in January.
Go ahead and do it. Build the damn pipeline and when it ruins your drinking water supply, I don't want whining repugs begging the federal government to clean up the mess. Remember repugs, you don't like federal gov't. interference in your lives.
Segami
(14,923 posts)malaise
(269,012 posts)kelly1mm
(4,733 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)I kinda doubt it.
kelly1mm
(4,733 posts)catbyte
(34,393 posts)Yupster
(14,308 posts)Was considered bad. Will now be good for the next two years.
Biggest maxim in politics is "It depends on whose ox is being gored."
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)BootinUp
(47,154 posts)underpants
(182,818 posts)BootinUp
(47,154 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)BootinUp
(47,154 posts)2naSalit
(86,634 posts)madville
(7,410 posts)They will attach this as an amendment to a continuing resolution or budget at the last minute, pass it, and then dare President Obama to veto the whole thing and shutdown the government. They will believe they have cover since polling shows a majority of Americans supporting the pipeline.
HoosierRadical
(390 posts)know the facts, all they hear is the lies about jobs and energy independence. Sometimes I'm really shocked at how stupid Americans can be.
Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)The amount of BS and propaganda
spewing from the MSM is confusing.
Not everyone has the time or energy
to fact check an never-ending stream of lies.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)Color me surprised.
Blue Owl
(50,383 posts)abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)While happy it didn't pass I'm disappointed that only 41 said no. C'mon we need to switch to alternative fuels not continue with fossil fuels...
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)MiniMe
(21,716 posts)I want to make sure my Senators in Maryland voted NO
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)See Post 46
MiniMe
(21,716 posts)RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)In fact, I even phone-banked for Babs back when she was still in the House.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)tavernier
(12,389 posts)of the scene in the last Harry Potter movie when the bloodied and broken members of Dumbledore's Army stand up to Voldemort and the Death Eaters?
You know that they are in the right, but you also know they will get their asses kicked eventually.
Yes, goodness triumphs in the movies, but this is the real world. I'm afraid we have more Voldemorts, and not enough good guys joining our army.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)http://blogs.rollcall.com/wgdb/keystone-xl-pipeline-stalls-in-senate-vote/?dcz=
malaise
(269,012 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)in Banking (where she came from) or with the Oil Industry for this vote.
Of course, what replaced her would have voted the same way...though.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)What a shock!
And, yes, she'll be just fine.
Ugh, still cringing when I think of her "not too far left, not too far right" ads.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)go through the state...but, she felt it important to support it. She was always that way voting with Republicans...except on social issues.
niyad
(113,318 posts)woman-hating pos gardner takes his seat in jan.
lobodons
(1,290 posts)But will they have enough votes to sustain a VETO??
MiniMe
(21,716 posts)Who knows what will happen in the next congress
madville
(7,410 posts)4 or 5 additional Democrats that voted NO today to switch and vote YEA on overriding the President's potential veto. Very doubtful that's possible.
krawhitham
(4,644 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Last edited Wed Nov 19, 2014, 02:31 PM - Edit history (1)
that black people especially (who oddly enopugh have the highest rate of petrolum caused cancer in the state, hmmm) should just suck it up while the Oil industry sets up yet a third oil disaster in a decade, one that could dwarf katrina and Deepwater Horizon (both of which blacks and other minorties still bore the brunt of?)?
Environmental rights are civil rights, because you cannot excercise civil liberties if you cannot drink the water or afford your chemotherapy!
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)bit of life on this planet have when everything is too toxic to drink or eat?
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Now a veto, and I'll be happy.
No thanks to a bunch of spineless Democrats. Someone needs to remind them that we have a majority until December.
ellie
(6,929 posts)Too bad, so sad.
nolabear
(41,963 posts)handmade34
(22,756 posts)now to keep up the fight!
Congratulations: thanks to your calls, emails and actions, a bill to force approval of the Keystone XL pipeline just failed to pass the Senate. Again.
Even counting the new climate-denying members who will take seats in January, Big Oil could not override a Presidential veto of Keystone XL next year.
He has the support he needs -- from us, and from the facts. The only question is whether the President will hold true to his own climate test.
Last week the President struck a historic climate agreement with China. Approving Keystone XL now would be like pledging to quit smoking and then buying a new carton of cigarettes. Rejecting the pipeline would be a bold step forward to meet his new goals. Can you send a message to the President that now is the time to reject the pipeline?
http://act.350.org/sign/reject-keystone-xl-now/?rd=1&t=1&referring_akid=5592.2026843.m2QcbA
Over the last week, we've flooded the Senate phone lines. Today, activists occupied the offices of two Democrats, Senator Bennet and Senator Carper, who joined with Big Oil in supporting the pipeline. The pressure worked.
Next year we will face new obstacles -- incoming Majority Leader McConnell already promised today that it will be a top priority of the next Senate, but it appears he won't have the votes to override a veto.
Now is the time for leadership. President Obama should end this debate and reject the Keystone XL pipeline. This week he said "I wont hide my opinion about this, which is that one major determinant of whether we should approve a pipeline shipping Canadian oil to world markets, not the United States, is does it contribute to the greenhouse gases that are causing climate change."
That can only point to rejection. An 830,000 barrel per day pipeline of the world's dirtiest oil will obviously contribute to climate change.
Rejecting the pipeline would show the President's commitment to action, and open a new chapter in the fight against climate change.
It's time.
FLyellowdog
(4,276 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)who has dedicated so much to this issue
valerief
(53,235 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)malaise
(269,012 posts)onecaliberal
(32,861 posts)They need to go. We are digging the graves of our grandchildren with this shit. Enough is enough. Fuck these greedy assholes.
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)RandySF
(58,857 posts)Passing this was not going to save your runoff election. We're not going to try and further ruin the country in the process.
Stonepounder
(4,033 posts)41 votes against with a bloody DEMOCRAT majority. Come next year, with a REPUBLICAN majority, they have a veto-proof 60 votes easy. They don't need to play games, just pass it, let Obama veto it, and then just override the veto. Game. Set. Match. Build the pipeline.
Oh, and break another treaty with the Rosebud Souix and tell them to go to hell, we're building that pipeline through your <giggle> sovereign land.
malaise
(269,012 posts)Stonepounder
(4,033 posts)I still think its bad news. I suspect that there are a few DINO's that the Repubs can find to do an override.
glinda
(14,807 posts)Myrina
(12,296 posts).... if the clowns in DC really had their constituents' best interests at heart ....
shireen
(8,333 posts)If so, that is awesome news.