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Atman

(31,464 posts)
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 07:11 PM Nov 2014

Obama can provide Landrieu cover.

Let her vote for it. Let the Dems vote for it. All he has to do is veto it, then she can say she was for it, Dems can say they supported her, but they don't have to vote to override his veto. They can have it both ways. I think they call this "politics." Let the Republicans look like shit heads (as if that is difficult) while we make the case that we're protecting our drinking water and our environment, and the Republicans just want to cash in on sending oil to China. Obama has NOTHING to lose, he's not running for anything.

*now snaps out of fantasy-land*

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Obama can provide Landrieu cover. (Original Post) Atman Nov 2014 OP
This is what it is about, too many blinders. If it gets passed and Obama vetoes Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #1
It's a futile exercise in Landrieu's case madville Nov 2014 #2
In Louisiana. Ha! AndreaCG Nov 2014 #5
Maybe knowing she's going to lose in LA fadedrose Nov 2014 #11
I find the whole idea of political cover repugnant. cloudbase Nov 2014 #3
+1000 ^^^ ! Laurian Nov 2014 #4
It's okay to be self-serving if the vote is for the common good....nt fadedrose Nov 2014 #10
Now he doesn't have to... fadedrose Nov 2014 #6
^^^^^^^^^ Atman Nov 2014 #7
I suspect someone has an IOU from Obama ctaylors6 Nov 2014 #8
I think Landrieu did the math fadedrose Nov 2014 #9

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. This is what it is about, too many blinders. If it gets passed and Obama vetoes
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 07:15 PM
Nov 2014

the bill and Congress can override a veto then so be it, Landrieu can say she got the bill voted on and it failed.

madville

(7,410 posts)
2. It's a futile exercise in Landrieu's case
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 07:19 PM
Nov 2014

She is now down 21% in polling, 59-38 versus Cassidy in the head-to-head runoff.

The only thing that I think could save her now is some major scandal involving her opponent breaking in the next two weeks.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
11. Maybe knowing she's going to lose in LA
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 10:05 PM
Nov 2014

made her ask for this vote with her heart, for her party, for the environment and the Lakotas, after she checked with her cronies to see how they would vote. Her affirmative vote was not needed, so she went for it....

That's why she insisted on voting now. The end to the XL Pipeline, at least for a while.. I think maybe we underestimated her...

cloudbase

(5,519 posts)
3. I find the whole idea of political cover repugnant.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 07:19 PM
Nov 2014

Just cast your vote and take the praise or the hits.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
6. Now he doesn't have to...
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 07:41 PM
Nov 2014

I think she had friends in the Senate that she knew she could depend on to vote "No"

Double Sting operation, maybe?

ctaylors6

(693 posts)
8. I suspect someone has an IOU from Obama
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 08:35 PM
Nov 2014

I think they did the math and saw Landrieu is almost certainly going to lose. This vote give Obama cover not to have to veto. There's strength in threatening a veto, with the bonus now of not having to actually veto a bill that polls show favor for.

I'm sure the white house was working the undecided senators hard, and one of them is extra happy tonight.

Or am I too cynical?

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
9. I think Landrieu did the math
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 09:59 PM
Nov 2014

and when she realized that they were going to be 2 short with her "no" - she voted FOR it knowing she would lose.

She's still a Democrat. I bet she and the President are having a good laugh...

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