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Here's the live thread Senate Debate on Keystone. (Original Post) cali Nov 2014 OP
Heitkamp up now cali Nov 2014 #1
Heidi Heitkamp. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #2
awful, but Landrieu? Even worse. cali Nov 2014 #3
"We don't have to be dictated to by Russia and China." Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #6
Doesn't Nite Owl Nov 2014 #21
Thanks. Landrieu up. elleng Nov 2014 #4
My head is about to explode listening to that piece of shit, Landrieu cali Nov 2014 #5
Her opponent is endorsed by Ted Cruz, bet she would be much better than Cassidy. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #9
yes, he's horrible, but I expect repubs to be just that. She's a democrat. cali Nov 2014 #10
He is also, she votes with Democrats much more than Cassidy ever would, chalk one more for the TP. Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #13
She is good on quite a few issues but her allegiance to Big Oil is hard to bear. pampango Nov 2014 #18
Murky Mary is claiming that it will produce over 400,000 permanent jobs cali Nov 2014 #7
With figures provided by the Chemical Industry. And she just loves the debate... Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #11
I think she is probably correct, cali, TheCowsCameHome Nov 2014 #16
Mary Landreieu is an embarrassment to any Democrat. procon Nov 2014 #8
I used to listen to these kinds of debates in the Senate frazzled Nov 2014 #12
same here Enrique Nov 2014 #25
Patty Murray up cali Nov 2014 #14
Yay. My senator Patty Murray. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #15
Feinstein. Talking about the damage the process of extracting does cali Nov 2014 #17
Giving the Repubs a little taste of their own medicine? kentuck Nov 2014 #19
Hoeven up now. lying his fucking disgusting ass off. cali Nov 2014 #20
Landrieu: It's clean, clean clean and has nothing to do with climate change. fuck you Mary cali Nov 2014 #22
Hoeven up again, with a pipeline chart nt steve2470 Nov 2014 #23
and now for the vote. cali Nov 2014 #24
McCaskill voted FOR KXL. Voted down with 41 Dem votes now. nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #26
If I read it right, they failed to pass it. moriah Nov 2014 #27
Hoeven(R) & Heitcamp (D) were certain YES's. Owned by big oil in the NDakota Bakken Frack Field. misterhighwasted Nov 2014 #28
you mean certain yays. cali Nov 2014 #29
thanks (correcting) misterhighwasted Nov 2014 #32
FAILED!!!!!!! Pres Obama can put his VETO PEN AWAY. misterhighwasted Nov 2014 #30
We need another thread on the "aftermath" fadedrose Nov 2014 #31
if they pass this piece of shit legislation under a democratic senate, fuck politics. spanone Nov 2014 #33
COOL. Rosebud Tribe from SDakota saying Thank You!!! misterhighwasted Nov 2014 #34
I heard that! :) moriah Nov 2014 #35
 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
6. "We don't have to be dictated to by Russia and China."
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 05:29 PM
Nov 2014

And, "People in Mexico will stay in Mexico."

Yep. Worse.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
5. My head is about to explode listening to that piece of shit, Landrieu
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 05:29 PM
Nov 2014

she's a liar and a crook. fuck her.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
10. yes, he's horrible, but I expect repubs to be just that. She's a democrat.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 05:41 PM
Nov 2014

and she's a piece of shit.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
13. He is also, she votes with Democrats much more than Cassidy ever would, chalk one more for the TP.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 05:47 PM
Nov 2014

pampango

(24,692 posts)
18. She is good on quite a few issues but her allegiance to Big Oil is hard to bear.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 05:54 PM
Nov 2014
http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/mary_landrieu.htm

Opposed $700 billion bailout; not enough taxpayer safeguards. (Oct 2008)
Voted YES on reauthorizing the Violence Against Women Act. (Feb 2013)
Voted YES on expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation. (Jun 2000)
Voted YES on setting aside 10% of highway funds for minorities & women. (Mar 1998)
Voted NO on ending special funding for minority & women-owned business. (Oct 1997)
Rated 75% by the ACLU, indicating a pro-civil rights voting record. (Dec 2002)
Rated 89% by the HRC, indicating a pro-gay-rights stance. (Dec 2006)
Rated 86% by the NAACP, indicating a pro-affirmative-action stance. (Dec 2006)
ENDA: prohibit employment discrimination for gays. (Jun 2009)
Voted YES on repealing tax subsidy for companies which move US jobs offshore. (Mar 2005)
Rated 78% by the US COC, indicating a pro-business voting record. (Dec 2003)
Rated 83% by UFCW, indicating an anti-management/pro-labor record. (May 2012)
Rated 16% by the Christian Coalition: an anti-Family-Value voting record. (Dec 2003)
AdWatch: Targeted by RNC robocalls for support of ObamaCare. (Nov 2013)

There are plenty of her negative positions at that site as well. We all know that the republican who will replace her will be much worse. I guess the question is: "Is the sacrifice worth it in the long run?

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
16. I think she is probably correct, cali,
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 05:51 PM
Nov 2014

if she's including all the new jobs KXL will create in the environmental/hazmat cleanup industry.

procon

(15,805 posts)
8. Mary Landreieu is an embarrassment to any Democrat.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 05:37 PM
Nov 2014

I've been yelling at the TV to no avail, but she's still talking/lying like a Republican. No one's job -- certainly not hers! -- is worth the consequences of passing Keystone.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
12. I used to listen to these kinds of debates in the Senate
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 05:46 PM
Nov 2014

And hang on to every word, keeping track of the arguments pro and con. But, alas, I too have gotten jaded over these past years. Just wake me when the vote is in. It really doesn't matter what anyone says: the outcome is always preordained before these in-front-of-camera, empty-hall speeches are made.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
14. Patty Murray up
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 05:48 PM
Nov 2014

voting against it.

says we don't have all the facts and thus shouldn't be holding a vote now. stressing the environmental impact and climate change. good for her.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
17. Feinstein. Talking about the damage the process of extracting does
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 05:54 PM
Nov 2014

she's actually doing a good job.

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
19. Giving the Repubs a little taste of their own medicine?
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 05:57 PM
Nov 2014

Have to get 60 votes to continue the debate and then schedule a vote.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
22. Landrieu: It's clean, clean clean and has nothing to do with climate change. fuck you Mary
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 06:19 PM
Nov 2014

enjoy your new lobbying career for big energy.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
24. and now for the vote.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 06:51 PM
Nov 2014

Mary gushing over Hoeven. Mary's closing statement: To the opponents: This product will be produced and it will be moved. These heavy oils will not be exported. Oh, and she says LA does a great job on the environment. gad this woman is full of shit. "let us do more than send a message: Send hope to the middle class". The time is now to build the infrastructure to make this country energy independent.

shut the fuck up, Mary.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
31. We need another thread on the "aftermath"
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 07:20 PM
Nov 2014

I've been watching it and didn't want to hear the passage or non-passage alone...

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