Some advice for DNC should Bernie Sanders decide to run for President

[Capt. Obvious]

Encourage him strongly to run in the Democratic primary.

Don't put up any roadblocks to him getting ballot access or any other tricks of the trade.

In general, don't be an asshole to an admittedly long shot campaign.

Then he hopefully won't run as an (I) and play spoiler.

[VanillaRhapsody]

1. Here is how much of a longshot....

Ohio: Christie vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 46, Christie 39 Clinton +7
Ohio: Paul vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 49, Paul 40 Clinton +9
Ohio: Bush vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 48, Bush 38 Clinton +10
Ohio: Perry vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 49, Perry 39 Clinton +10
Ohio: Kasich vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 47, Kasich 43 Clinton +4

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/

[cali]

2. wow. so the election's tomorrow? and how does she do against Jeb?

[VanillaRhapsody]

4. You got anyone that comes even close?

against Bush you say? How does by 10 grab you?

Ohio: Christie vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 46, Christie 39 Clinton +7
Ohio: Paul vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 49, Paul 40 Clinton +9
Ohio: Bush vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 48, Bush 38 Clinton +10
Ohio: Perry vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 49, Perry 39 Clinton +10
Ohio: Kasich vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 47, Kasich 43 Clinton +4

[LondonReign2]

10. Thread hijack attempt FAIL

[VanillaRhapsody]

11. What do you have against facts?

like the 50 point spread?
or the fact that she polls ahead of ALL Republicans in THEIR own polls?

[LondonReign2]

12. Bernie Sanders

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[VanillaRhapsody]

14. like these....

Ohio: Christie vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 46, Christie 39 Clinton +7
Ohio: Paul vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 49, Paul 40 Clinton +9
Ohio: Bush vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 48, Bush 38 Clinton +10
Ohio: Perry vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 49, Perry 39 Clinton +10
Ohio: Kasich vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 47, Kasich 43 Clinton +4

[LondonReign2]

18. Bernie Sanders

[LawDeeDah]

19. Those numbers are miniscule at this point in time.

wait till her first half dozen or so gaffes or past things she has said that is on video and not very flattering to her intelligence, when the race starts and that will close fast.

[LondonReign2]

22. Indeed

Rudy Giuliani was leading the Republicans at this point in 2006, and Hillary's lead was "insurmountable".

[VanillaRhapsody]

29. keep holding on to 2006.....its all you got!

and lightening doesn't strike twice...



you have NOTHING else...

[LondonReign2]

32. Bernie Sanders

[VanillaRhapsody]

36. who is not a Democrat....keep trying...

[LondonReign2]

37. Bernie Sanders

[VanillaRhapsody]

38. Yeah love me some Bernie.....UNfortunately he is NOT a Democrat so I cannot support his

Presidential run currently....

I am pledged to vote for whomever wins the Democratic Primary....How about you?

[LondonReign2]

39. Bernie Sanders

[VanillaRhapsody]

40. Not a Democrat....

But here is someone who IS and CAN Win...

Ohio: Christie vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 46, Christie 39 Clinton +7
Ohio: Paul vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 49, Paul 40 Clinton +9
Ohio: Bush vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 48, Bush 38 Clinton +10
Ohio: Perry vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 49, Perry 39 Clinton +10
Ohio: Kasich vs. Clinton FOX News Clinton 47, Kasich 43 Clinton +4


THANKS for giving me another opportunity to post those numbers!!!!

[LondonReign2]

41. Bernie Sanders

Bots gotta bot

[VanillaRhapsody]

42. And people like me get to respond to bots...

Polling Data
Poll Date Sample Clinton Biden Warren Cuomo Sanders O'Malley Webb Spread

RCP Average 6/24 - 10/12 -- 63.4 11.4 9.8 3.5 2.5 1.5 1.5 Clinton +52.0
ABC News/Wash Post 10/9 - 10/12 RV 64 13 11 1 1 -- 2 Clinton +51
McClatchy/Marist 9/24 - 9/29 408 RV 64 15 8 -- 4 2 1 Clinton +49
FOX News 7/20 - 7/22 438 RV 64 12 9 5 -- 1 -- Clinton +52
CNN/Opinion Research 7/18 - 7/20 449 A 67 8 10 4 -- 2 -- Clinton +57
Quinnipiac 6/24 - 6/30 610 RV 58 9 11 4 -- 1 -- Clinton +47

[LondonReign2]

43. Bernie Sanders

[VanillaRhapsody]

44. ALL you have.....I don't blame you....it sucks doesn't it?

Bernie's best....4 in a McClatchey poll!

[LondonReign2]

45. Bernie Sanders

Hillary Fluffer Bot is incapable of NOT responding. New programming requested.

[VanillaRhapsody]

46. won't win the General....sorry....

You need new programming broken BOT!!

I provided evidence....only a BOT like you keeps repeating their lack thereof....because they got NUTTIN!

[LondonReign2]

47. Bernie Sanders

[VanillaRhapsody]

48. Democrats!

[LondonReign2]

49. Bernie Sanders

[VanillaRhapsody]

50. DEMOCRATIC Underground!!!

[LondonReign2]

51. Bernie Sanders

[VanillaRhapsody]

52. DEMOCRATIC Underground!!!

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bye bye sore loser...

nutbar shields engaged Captain!

[LondonReign2]

53. Bernie Sanders

[VanillaRhapsody]

28. says YOU....

Miniscule....that makes all the OTHERS polling microscopic!

[jwirr]

13. Fine but should that keep him from running and having his say? Also I do not watch faux news so

why should I trust their polls?

[VanillaRhapsody]

17. their polls show US winning.....

[LawDeeDah]

20. because Hillary as President wouldn't be so bad for the Republicans.

I don't believe for a second that there is this extra hate for Hillary from the right even more so than Obama has suffered, that is nonsense. She is closer to the Republicans in her war stances and many other things I need not relist here again, it's long. I don't think they would mind so much, especially the close family buds - the Bushes, and McCain - the guy she said would be a better President than Obama.

guffaw. pushaw.

[VanillaRhapsody]

27. No because she ALSO has a 64% approval among DEMOCRATS

a 50 point spread over all the others in fact...

guffaw and pushaw...back at ya!




and do YOU want to cover that spread?

[LondonReign2]

33. Bernie Sanders

[PAProgressive28]

3. Bernie will not run as a spoiler. He has been clear about this.

[Capt. Obvious]

6. I think he's going to run in the primary

but if the party tries to put up roadblocks I could easily see him bolting.

[LawDeeDah]

21. That has been on my mind lately, the roadblocks Sanders

(or anyone with a similar message, like Elizabeth Warren), would face from the dem establishment (and the Clintons are very much the dem establishment).

Iirc, during the 2008 primary debates, Hillary and Edwards were caught on mike talking about how to get some of the dems running excluded from the debates, so I wouldn't put it past anything for some real dirty funny business being involved to shut people up so Hillary can have an easier time.

[VanillaRhapsody]

30. What roadblocks?

You mean voters?

[MohRokTah]

54. Have you got a link to him being clear about not running as an independent>

Every interview I've ever listened to of him answering the question, he was clear as mud and gave standard politician answers when that politician doesn't want to answer.

[Autumn]

5. My Bernie!!! He won't run as an Independent, he has said as much.

Bernie will run as a Democrat in the primary. Bernie will force a discussion of issues that must be had.

[Capt. Obvious]

7. "BUT HE'S NOT A DEMOCRAT"

paraphrase from every single Bernie Sanders thread on DU.

I directed this OP to the DNC but really, the audience it's meant for is here.

[Agnosticsherbet]

8. So far as I can tell, All Sanders needs to do is change party and put in the paperwork

in the states where he is running in the primary.

[brooklynite]

9. UNREC

Name a single instance of DNC blocking ballot access for a candidate "they" didn't like.

The ONLY role DNC plays is 1) setting the Primary calendar and 2) settling disputes about the validity of delegates.

Honestly, too many people are clueless about how the Democratic Party actually works.

[MohRokTah]

55. +10,000,000 eom

[Capt. Obvious]

15. Of course my directive to the DNC was just a catch all placeholder for TPTB

and to a lesser extent the unbearables that populate this message board.

Do Dems ever block ballot access?

Would anyone deny that?

[kentuck]

16. He's the best "Democrat" in Washington right now...

We are so hung up on labels, rather than what they stand for.

[SomethingFishy]

25. +1..

Democrat and Journalist are the two most misused labels there are right now.

[MissDeeds]

26. Well said!

[JEB]

23. If the party fails to embrace Bernie Sanders as a candidate, then

as far as I'm concerned, the party can go fuck itself. That is pretty much what it does anyway.

[Maedhros]

31. The Party doesn't fuck itself, it fucks its base. [n/t]

[JEB]

34. Eventually, a party with no base tips over.

[Maedhros]

35. Brilliant sig, btw. [n/t]

[brooklynite]

56. Last time I checked, "the Party" were the Democrats who chose to vote...

...and apparently they all have to agree with you? Good to know.

[MohRokTah]

57. If that is your attitude

then I doubt if you are a Democrat.

[Adrahil]

24. Concur....

I don;t think Barry will (or even can) win , but if he decides to run, the DNC should welcome him and encourage it.

If Bernie runs as an (I), I will lose some respect for him.