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Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 12:16 PM Apr 2012

Vatican sends a man to tell women what to do - again

Vatican orders crackdown on U.S. nun group

The Vatican orthodoxy watchdog announced Wednesday a full-scale overhaul of the largest umbrella group for nuns in the United States, accusing the group of taking positions that undermine Roman Catholic teaching on the priesthood and homosexuality while promoting "certain radical feminist themes incompatible with the Catholic faith."


An American archbishop was appointed to oversee reform of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious, which will include rewriting the group's statutes, reviewing all its plans and programs — including approving speakers — and ensuring the organization properly follows Catholic prayer and ritual and child molestation.

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"I can only infer that there was strong feeling about the health care position that we had taken," Campbell said. "Our position on health care was application of the one faith to a political document that we read differently than the bishops."


When the Vatican-ordered inquiry was initially announced, many religious sisters and their supporters said the investigation reflected church officials' misogyny and was an insult to religious sisters, who run hospitals, teach, and play other vital service roles in the church. Conservative Catholics, however, have long complained that the majority of sisters in the U.S. have grown too liberal and flout church teaching.


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57416411/vatican-orders-crackdown-on-u.s-nun-group/

Awesome.
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Vatican sends a man to tell women what to do - again (Original Post) Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 OP
Oh, it's ON! hedgehog Apr 2012 #1
Does the church know what its getting into? Drale Apr 2012 #2
War On Women Amonester Apr 2012 #3
Catholic math: What is a priest minus a priest? Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #10
NOTHING said pre-Obama,,, benld74 Apr 2012 #4
Well, I tend to blame it on the wide disinformation campaign of the GOP Xyzse Apr 2012 #5
'Change from within' earthside Apr 2012 #6
Good thing I'm not a nun leftynyc Apr 2012 #7
If you didn't want a male-dominated religious order giving you commands . . . 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #8
I really think we need some more of this snooper2 Apr 2012 #9

benld74

(9,904 posts)
4. NOTHING said pre-Obama,,,
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 12:47 PM
Apr 2012

when their health coverage INCLUDED contraceptives! NOT ONE EFFIN WORD!
NADA
ZILCH

BUT NOW?

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
5. Well, I tend to blame it on the wide disinformation campaign of the GOP
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 12:57 PM
Apr 2012

Even if it was there for a while, due to the Health Care overhaul which they want to repeal, even items which did not cause controversy back then is now up for grabs.

The issue I see however, is that we really should not call it birth control as it is not condoms that we are talking about, rather pills used for hormone control for various uses.
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Edit - However! That is not the issue here. The issue here is the Vatican doing a check on a Sisterhood to see if they follow the precepts taught on the Catholic Church.

Sadly, the Vatican lives in a bubble and more a political body than anything else at this time.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
6. 'Change from within'
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 01:18 PM
Apr 2012

This is an example of why I just have to shake my head in sadness at those members of the Roman church who insisted on staying and think they can change the organization from the inside.

The Roman church is an authoritarian patriarchy -- period, the end. It is not in any remote way a democracy.

Especially with a church like this one headed by a 'pope' who can speak and act for god, well, if you do not believe in the doctrines and practices of this institution, you really should just leave. (Unless you are just a nominal member for traditional family reasons and don't really care about the church's theology.)

This will only be the beginning, it looks to me like the Roman church is moving in an even more conservative direction ... look at the recently 'appointed' new cardinals, bishops, etc.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
7. Good thing I'm not a nun
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 01:35 PM
Apr 2012

I'd tell them I'd consider their opinion when they clean out the pedophiles/pedarists. That there are still women who become nuns stuns me.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
8. If you didn't want a male-dominated religious order giving you commands . . .
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 01:37 PM
Apr 2012

becoming a nun was probably not a wise decision.

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