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Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 09:08 AM Nov 2014

The XL pipeline will endanger a major supply of fresh water. That is a crime, and this graphic tells you why.

Last edited Tue Nov 18, 2014, 10:36 AM - Edit history (1)



This is how much air and water exists on this dry and thin atmosphere planet Earth:



By comparison with other places in our own solar system:




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The amount of available fresh water is shockingly tiny. The largest sphere represents all of Earth's water, and its diameter is about 860 miles (the distance from Salt Lake City, Utah, to Topeka, Kansas). It would have a volume of about 332,500,000 cubic miles (mi3) (1,386,000,000 cubic kilometers (km3)). The sphere includes all the water in the oceans, ice caps, lakes, and rivers, as well as groundwater, atmospheric water, and even the water in you, your dog, and your tomato plant.




Fresh Water

How much of the total water is fresh water, which people and many other life forms need to survive? The blue sphere over Kentucky represents the world's liquid fresh water (groundwater, lakes, swamp water, and rivers). The volume comes to about 2,551,100 mi3 (10,633,450 km3), of which 99 percent is groundwater, much of which is not accessible to humans. The diameter of this sphere is about 169.5 miles (272.8 kilometers).

Water in Lakes and Rivers

Do you notice that "tiny" bubble over Atlanta, Georgia? That one represents fresh water in all the lakes and rivers on the planet, and most of the water people and life of earth need every day comes from these surface-water sources. The volume of this sphere is about 22,339 mi3 (93,113 km3). The diameter of this sphere is about 34.9 miles (56.2 kilometers). Yes, Lake Michigan looks way bigger than this sphere, but you have to try to imagine a bubble almost 35 miles high—whereas the average depth of Lake Michigan is less than 300 feet (91 meters).


http://water.usgs.gov/edu/earthhowmuch.html

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The amount of air and water in the planet is extremely limited, not protecting these things is a crime, purposely wasting them and endangering them is plantetary suicide.

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EDIT:

Please support however you can, even a comment on their website, the Warriors of the Rosebud Sioux Tribe in the unwanted war declared on them by Big Oil and Big Corruption:

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“The House has now signed our death warrants and the death warrants of our children and grandchildren. The Rosebud Sioux Tribe will not allow this pipeline through our lands,” said President Scott of the Rosebud Sioux Tribe. “We are outraged at the lack of intergovernmental cooperation. We are a sovereign nation and we are not being treated as such. We will close our reservation borders to Keystone XL. Authorizing Keystone XL is an act of war against our people.”

In February of this year, the Rosebud Sioux Tribe and other members of the Great Sioux Nation adopted Tribal resolutions opposing the Keystone XL project.

“The Lakota people have always been stewards of this land,” added President Scott. “We feel it is imperative that we provide safe and responsible alternative energy resources not only to Tribal members but to non-Tribal members as well. We need to stop focusing and investing in risky fossil fuel projects like TransCanada’s Keystone XL pipeline. We need to start remembering that the earth is our mother and stop polluting her and start taking steps to preserve the land, water, and our grandchildren’s future.”

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http://lakotavoice.com/2014/11/15/house-vote-in-favor-of-the-keystone-xl-pipeline-an-act-of-war/




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The XL pipeline will endanger a major supply of fresh water. That is a crime, and this graphic tells you why. (Original Post) Fred Sanders Nov 2014 OP
But, but 60% of Americans want it built according to a new poll.... sinkingfeeling Nov 2014 #1
Now, what was it that fellow named Gruber said recently? KansDem Nov 2014 #10
well of course they do... blackspade Nov 2014 #17
Many miles of pipeline already run over the aquifer. Brickbat Nov 2014 #2
So an even worse one is ok? blackspade Nov 2014 #18
Do you realize how many pipelines there already are? Travis_0004 Nov 2014 #3
Lot of that is gas, refined products and none are low viscosity tar sands oil thinned by a potent Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #4
None of those run through the Rosebud Indian Reservation progressoid Nov 2014 #19
kick, kick, kick..... daleanime Nov 2014 #5
Hey Fred malaise Nov 2014 #6
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Nov 2014 #7
This spacecraft came pre-stocked with a very limited supply of air and water. There is no more. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #8
K&R nt riderinthestorm Nov 2014 #9
K&R If you want to stand against something, not standing with it is a good start. raouldukelives Nov 2014 #11
If you really want a pipeline SCVDem Nov 2014 #12
many spills in Alberta, none reported and zero damage done! maindawg Nov 2014 #13
Is it true that only the cock brothers and Venezuela have the ... SoLeftIAmRight Nov 2014 #14
This explains how the oil is for export, where it fetches higher prices. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #16
stunning.... blackspade Nov 2014 #15
But but but this will help Landrieu make up a ten point deficit in the polls NightWatcher Nov 2014 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author moondust Nov 2014 #21
Thank you, Fred! Cha Nov 2014 #22
...a dwindling major supply of fresh water being guzzled for mass farming. L0oniX Nov 2014 #23
Brilliant! grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #24
Enbridge Oil Pipeline: Is Oil more important than Water? Johnny Rash Nov 2014 #25
Welcome to DU, Johnny awoke_in_2003 Nov 2014 #26
Water before oil, damn rights. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #27

sinkingfeeling

(51,457 posts)
1. But, but 60% of Americans want it built according to a new poll....
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 09:55 AM
Nov 2014
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/11/17/usa-today-poll-immigration-isis-keystone-pipeline/19165331/

By 60%-25%, those surveyed say Congress and Obama should approve construction of the Keystone pipeline, which would carry oil from Canada's oil sands region through the Midwest to refineries in Texas.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
4. Lot of that is gas, refined products and none are low viscosity tar sands oil thinned by a potent
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 10:10 AM
Nov 2014

liquid carcinogen of unknown quantity, used to tame the noxious brew, allowing it to be pumped at these huge volumes...just saying so you know.

None are Carbon Bombs with a direct fuel line to the worlds most massive store of semi-liquid carbon for burning into the air.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
11. K&R If you want to stand against something, not standing with it is a good start.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 11:40 AM
Nov 2014

Remember when conservative meant to conserve? I don't myself but I hear that was the case. I imagine many of them would weep at what has transpired to the country and our world.

Now we can barely get our own party to stand up for it. Most of them are in the same pockets that bought out the conservatives. That money does more to direct our country than any vote. It enlightens far more than any debate. It speaks far louder than any protest. Every investment only increasing the war chest to conquer us and those would try to save a small portion of our fresh water and forests for the future.

Our scientists have been telling us we are killing ourselves and all the life that currently resides alongside us. We are being given vague promises by our leaders about future reductions in pollution, about how we will turn the ship and make things right, someday.

Glad to see some people have a line in the sand. Some people weren't OK with being a slave. Some people weren't OK with slavery. They didn't end it by supporting the lesser of two evils. They ended it by not supporting evil.
A lot of people made a lot of money off slavery. They were afraid, they were weak, they were poisoned by greed and we needed to eventually have a war to drag them kicking and wetting themselves into the future.
I fear the same form of battle is on the horizon. The world has faced no greater threat, no greater evil than climate change.
Those who would shrug off the suffering of others for money are the same now as they were then. What doesn't speak for ending it, speaks for perpetuating it.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
12. If you really want a pipeline
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 11:41 AM
Nov 2014

Go west to Lake Mead!

The Midwest floods and in Cal we are in a drought.

Screw tar sands, pipe water!

If it spills, no problem.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
13. many spills in Alberta, none reported and zero damage done!
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 11:50 AM
Nov 2014
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/11/17/1345431/-There-s-Been-HOW-Many-Pipeline-Spills-in-Alberta-in-The-Last-Four-Months?detail=facebook


Oct 3, 2014 – Canadian Natural Resources Limited – 11Km East of Delia – 10,000 litres of Crude oil
Oct 5, 2014 – Nexen Energy ULC – 2.5Km SouthWest of Kinosis – 5,800 litres of Toxic water
Oct 5, 2014 – Cenovus Energy Inc – 56Km East of Brooks – 9,800 litres of Toxic water
Oct 5, 2014 – Nexen Energy ULC – 41Km SouthEast of Ft. McMurray – 13,000 litres of Condensate
Oct 10, 2014 – Husky Oil – 30Km SouthEast of Vermilion – 50,000 litres of Crude oil and 25,000 litres of toxic water
Oct 13, 2014 – Arc Resources – 5Km North of Redwater – 150,000 litres of Toxic water
Oct 11, 2014 – TAQA North Ltd – 44Km SouthWest of Spirit River – 24,000 litres of Crude oil
Oct 14, 2014 – Whitecap Resources Inc – 37Km NorthWest of Sexsmith – 10,000 litres of Toxic water
Oct 15, 2014 – Penn West Petroleum Ltd -14Km SouthEast of Slave Lake – 52,000 litres Crude oil
Oct 14, 2014 – Zargon Oil & Gas Ltd – 26Km NorthWest of Vauxhall – 8,000 litres of Toxic water
Oct 17, 2014 – TAQA North Ltd – 32Km NorthWest of Rocky Mountain House – 18,000 litres of Toxic water
Oct 21, 2014 – Harvest Operations Corp – 20Km East of Galahad – 200,000 litres of Toxic water
Oct 26, 2014 – Apache Canada Ltd -9Km East of Zama City – 50,000 litres of Toxic water
Total = Over 625,000 Litres of toxic crap spilled in Alberta for just the month of October and not one Mainstream media reports about it.

And Apparently there has been no reports of any damage to the environment at all!
 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
14. Is it true that only the cock brothers and Venezuela have the ...
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 11:51 AM
Nov 2014

refineries that can convert this sludge into a usable form?

If so, helps the evil brothers and hurts Venezuela. Two wins for the bad guys.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
20. But but but this will help Landrieu make up a ten point deficit in the polls
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 01:54 PM
Nov 2014

Shouldn't we risk our drinking water for the slight chance that one politician's job might be spared for a couple of years?


Yeah, I didn't think so either

Response to Fred Sanders (Original post)

 

Johnny Rash

(227 posts)
25. Enbridge Oil Pipeline: Is Oil more important than Water?
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 05:42 PM
Nov 2014

To most people, the mega-projects, such as the Enbridge Oil Pipelines going through the North America Landscape, are essential in order to supply the demands imposed by our ever growing world population.

But are those mega-projects really beneficial to all of us?

Or, are those mega-projects really imposed on us in the name of profits?

While these issues are still being debated in the News media, for our Native Americans, the answer is clear: Water before Oil!

The following YouTube video clip is about what some Native Americans have to say on these issues:



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