UNFUCK AMERICA! Blackness is not a threat.

[sheshe2]

Gov Jay Nixon activates the MO National Guard to #Ferguson in the event of unrest



I am so distressed. Governor Jay Nixon activates the MO National Guard and issues A State of Emergency based on what he THINKS black people may do at the announcement of the Darren Wilson Ferguson Grand Jury decision. OMFG! Preconceived notions!!! How in the living hell can police not have preconceived notions about black people when a Gov activates the National Guard based on the same idea?

The Klan protest, law enforcement gives them an escort. Black people protest, the National Guard is activated. A State of Emergency is issued! Black people can’t walk while black, drive while black, seek help while black, shop while black and now protest while black because black people protesting is a threat & dangerous for white society.

UNFUCK AMERICA! Blackness is not a threat.

Governor Nixon is not slick. He’s using the State of Emergency to violate citizens a right to protest because in a State of Emergency citizens can lose their individual rights. We see you, Governor Nixon!

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[spanone]

1. k&r...

[WillyT]

2. If ANYBODY... Has The Claim Of... "You Didn't Build That !!!"... It's Black Folk...

[loyalsister]

3. I get the anger

But, I think the Klan presence might be something they are concerned about.

[AverageJoe90]

9. Maybe so. I doubt Missouri's police are THAT corrupt....or so I'd hope, anyway. nt

[loyalsister]

12. I don't know exactly how corrupt

But the system is particularly vulnerable to it. A police officer can be fired or resign over bad behavior, then go to a neighboring district and start over with a clean record. In fact, it is entirely possible for a cop to jump precincts several times, leaving a trail of extreme violations in each, and wind up retiring with honors based on his final job performance.

Corruption of individual police officers is too easy for it not to happen. The system itself is clearly complicit. I have not learned of other problems, but they certainly may exist.

[sheshe2]

17. Really?

As Campbell Robertson and Joseph Goldstein of The Times reported last month, the municipal courts in places like Maplewood, Mo., are filled with blacks who are pulled over by officers and charged with offenses that increase in cost when a defendant misses a court date. According to a report by the state attorney general in 2013, black motorists in

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Maplewood were searched or arrested during stops at more than twice the rate of whites — even though searches of blacks and whites were similarly likely to turn up contraband.

A startling analysis released last month by ArchCity Defenders, a nonprofit group in St. Louis, offered up a harrowing portrait of these interlocking court systems, which appear to be structured to persecute minority communities. In one community, “100 percent of all searches and arrests originating from traffic stops in Bel-Ridge in 2013 were of black individuals,” the report said.

Lawyers at ArchCity Defenders said their clients who were unable to pay the fines were illegally jailed and lost their jobs and housing as a result of being locked up. These practices “destroy the public’s confidence in the justice system,” as the report notes, and they impose ruinous burdens on impoverished citizens and violate the Constitution.

A wealth of evidence suggests that justice is not being fairly administered in either Ferguson or greater St. Louis County. If the Justice Department confirms what others have reported, it needs to use all of its authority to restore fairness to the law enforcement process.


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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/07/opinion/sunday/inquiry-into-ferguson-mo-police-practices-is-just-a-start.html?_r=0

Hey Joe! There is a lot more info out there if you care to do the research, cause, yes they are that corrupt!

[Live and Learn]

54. +1 nt

[sheshe2]

119. Thanks Live and Learn!

[AverageJoe90]

66. I had intended to refer to the possibility of the State Police turning a blind eye to the Klan.

My apologies, however; it appears I was not at all clear in my initial reply.

[sheshe2]

86. They aready have Joe.

Ferguson is on there own.

[Stellar]

144. Yes, they are THAT corrupt!

Can't you tell by all the changes that the police are going through to cover up Officer Darren Wilson part in all of this. The police only let out what they want the public to know, nothing more. That's how they know that officer will go free.

[kelliekat44]

62. 25% of the police and guard are probably KKK. nt

[loyalsister]

67. Probably?

I think a statement like that one should come with evidence.

[ileus]

133. More like 0% but 25 feels better.

[mercuryblues]

132. This weekend

Anonymous unhooded 2 members of the klan. 1 is an active duty police officer, hunnywell and the other is former deputy police chief David Borst. There is a picture of them and another unidentified kkk member at a rally to support Wilson. Why did the kkk come out so quick to support Wilson? One of their own, perhaps?

[JustAnotherGen]

140. +1000

[AnalystInParadise]

4. I need some butter

[sheshe2]

5. I am confused here.

Do you think this is funny? You respond as if it's a sporting event. People are going to die here. Maybe I am misreading your intent. It's been a long sad week for me so correct me if I am wrong.

[AnalystInParadise]

10. No it's not funny

no it isn't a sporting event. If any comedy can be found here, it is tragic comedy. And the tragedy comes from having to watch this unfold. If there is no indictment, it means the system worked and justice prevailed. But to many of you, that is not what you will see. What you will see is some B.S. where you will blame racism for no indictment. And that is the tragedy, that our legal system is only a success if you get the outcome you want.

[sheshe2]

13. Holy shit!

Your response after calling for more butter for your popcorn is below, so yes you are indeed amused!

If any comedy can be found here, it is tragic comedy. And the tragedy comes from having to watch this unfold. If there is no indictment, it means the system worked and justice prevailed. But to many of you, that is not what you will see. What you will see is some B.S. where you will blame racism for no indictment.

You stand with the "peace officer" that shot Michael down in cold blood. That just plain sucks!

And you say.

If there is no indictment, it means the system worked and justice prevailed.

So if there is an indictment justice fails. Okay got it. Wilson and his outrageous use of excessive force is okay with you. Dear gawd!

[BeanMusical]

125. I wonder what's the opinion of that poster about the Zimmerman trial?

The system worked in that case too I guess.

[1StrongBlackMan]

159. You asked? ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4530053

You're pretty new here (based on your post count); but, stick around, you will no longer be shocked.

[nc4bo]

14. Yea, I think the meaning of the word "justice" could be subjective. It just depends on which side

of the pony cart you happen to be on ~or~ perhaps "justice" only applies to those who kiss the asses and do the dirty work of the fucking 1%ers.

[BronxBoy]

16. Man oh man...,

You think that if there's no indictment the system worked? The the stupidest fucking shit I've heard today. And I've heard a lot

According to you there are no such things as wrongful convictions or malicious prosecutions. The law is the law right?

[bvf]

19. WTF??

"If there is no indictment, it means the system worked and justice prevailed."

"And that is the tragedy, that our legal system is only a success if you get the outcome you want."

How can you manage to hold both these thoughts in your brain at the same time? Amazing.

[AnalystInParadise]

21. They are consistent thoughts

I will be happy if there is an indictment because that means the system worked and they had enough evidence to indict.

CONVERSELY

I will be happy if there is NO indictment, because that also means the system worked and there was not enough evidence to indict.

What I will not do is be quiet while people throw racism charges around. if they don't get what they want.

Every racist thread that is posted will see me in it, logically, politely, but forcefully arguing that it isn't racism, and it is incredibly stupid to say it is.

[nc4bo]

22. It must be very nice to be able to afford that luxury.

Every racist thread that is posted will see me in it, logically, politely, but forcefully arguing that it isn't racism, and it is incredibly stupid to say it is.

[Jamastiene]

51. And people wonder why so many people of color have left DU.

That poster is allowed to follow and harass people from thread to thread as long as they want to and there isn't a thing anyone can do about it except admins and they don't seem to care any more.

[AnalystInParadise]

96. Correcting basic factual misperceptions

is not harassing anyone, and I am a person of color. My dad is Russian-Mexican.

[BeanMusical]

105. You're one strike away from getting a vacation.

Just saying.

[AnalystInParadise]

107. At some point it will happen

Doesn't change the fact that it isn't racism if there is no indictment.

[kwassa]

137. You have no way of knowing if racism is involved or not in the decision.

To say that there is no racism would fit in the category of an assumption on your part.

In other words, you are making up your own facts.

[Alittleliberal]

151. That makes no sense.

I hope you realize that.

[AnalystInParadise]

108. Interesting that you know that.......

I wonder how.....

[Quackers]

112. It's in your profile. nt

[AnalystInParadise]

114. Thank you

I just learned something.

[Quackers]

109. Shhh

You were already declared down thread as the voice for white privilege. Don't let the fact that you're a POC ruin that!

To other posters: yes, I'm being facetious, but with good reason. I'm tired of the "us vs them" mentality. Just because this poster says they will be happy with the grand jury's decision either way they vote, it was already assumed by many that he is white and referred to as the voice for white privlidge.

[AnalystInParadise]

111. Thank you.

People don't have to like my opinion, but don't assume you know what color I am because I am not committed to seeing racism where it looks like it doesn't exist.

[1StrongBlackMan]

160. LOL! Thank you for posting that ...

it gave me the only laugh I've had today!

[bravenak]

165. I saw that too.nt

[1StrongBlackMan]

168. Next up ...

Last edited Tue Nov 18, 2014, 09:37 PM - Edit history (1)

"I can totally relate because in jr. High my BFF dated a girl whose great grandmother was Bantu.

No. But I'll bet that's the first time those words escaped his lips/fingers.

[sheshe2]

188. OMG!

I almost spewed wine on my screen, 1Strong. I knew a person that knew a person that knew a person of color. So I know without a doubt what it's all about and it sure ain't racist, cause ya know, I just know.

[treestar]

207. What is Russian Mexican?

That could be lily white. And I bet you are going to tell us Zimmerman isn't white either.

[AnalystInParadise]

210. He is Russian and he is Mexican

I don't know if there is a simpler way to explain that.

And no Zimmerman is not white.

[treestar]

211. Then he's a white Mexican

A Mexican of Russian heritage. He's white.

[AnalystInParadise]

212. No

He is Mexican, a person of color. A father(my grandfather) that is a Mestizo from Tlaxcala and a mother (my grandmother) that is Russian and Lebanese from Vera Cruz. My dad grew up in El Paso (as did I). He takes after his dad and would never be classified as white to the casual observer. Me on the other hand, I could be seen as white or hispanic, depends on if I am living in Hawaii at the time or not.

[BronxBoy]

28. Well...

You obviously have a very, very naive view of the criminal justice system in this country not to mention that you are woefully ignorant of the long, long history of white juries absolving obviously guilty white men for lynchings or other injustices
Or conversely when White prosecutors and white juries have sent innocent black or browned to prison

You naïveté is only surpassed by your ignorance, willful or otherwise.

Like I said stupidest shit I've heard all day no matter how times you post it.

[BklnDem75]

33. Unfortunately, it's not naivete...

Some have been pretty consistent with their responses. I don't consider them allies.

[BronxBoy]

42. I know...

But that poster thinks they can wrap their bullshit in flowery words and a false sense of "balance" and thinks no one will call them on it

But as many if us have pointed out, their Kung fu is weak

[MrScorpio]

30. Because white privilege needs a voice, I would suppose...

Calmly explaining to the rest of us that it doesn't even exist.

[1StrongBlackMan]

46. Thamk you for posting that ...

so I don't have to.

The system worked ... despite all the prosecutorial irregularities, in a town rife with racial irregularities; but it's not racism? Right!

I wish my life experience allowed me such confidence ... but that would mean I had that privilege.

[BeanMusical]

123. +1

[tkmorris]

36. How will you know if the system DOESN'T work?

You seem to have only considered scenarios in which the system works as it is intended, in a completely impartial fashion.

[arcane1]

38. You're saying the system always works?

[BronxBoy]

45. Obviously.....

They are

[cprise]

43. Circular logic may be logical and consistent

but it isn't reasonable.

You sound like the criminal justice version of Randroids (i.e. the free market makes no mistakes because the fairest, most rational venue is the free market).

The American criminal justice system is badly twisted and demonstrably unfair to large numbers of people. The racial bias of sentencing harshness, for instance, is beyond dispute and should serve as a warning to people deluding themselves about "justice".

Spreading denial about racism in such a glib way just makes you look like an assh*le.

Have a nice day.

[sheshe2]

65. Oh goody!

Every racist thread that is posted will see me in it, logically, politely, but forcefully arguing that it isn't racism, and it is incredibly stupid to say it is

.

So you believe racism does not exist? Are you fucking kidding me?

[JustAnotherGen]

141. How can he believe racism doesn't exist

If he calls threads 'racist'?



Or was that a typo?


Quote: Every racist thread . . .


Hell - someone could call me a nigger tomorrow and he'd say - aaaaaawwwwwwwwwww shucks. That person LIKES black people.

[sheshe2]

167. Yup, like a term of endearment, JAG~

[arcane1]

26. Does justice always prevail when there is no indictment? Or just this time?

"our legal system is only a success if you get the outcome you want."

Isn't that exactly what you're saying for yourself?

[AnalystInParadise]

98. I don't have a preference

If he is indicted, then obviously the state believes he committed the crime and it will go to trial. I am perfectly happy with that.

If he is not indicted then obviously the state believes he did not commit a crime and I will also be ok with that.

What is not ok is if he is not indicted, people run to ramparts and scream racism with no proof that racism indeed occurred. I expect that if there is no indictment there will be 15-20 threads talking about racist America is for the state conducting an investigation and finding no guilt.

[graegoyle]

104. I think you have no idea what the difference is between an indictment and a trial.

[AnalystInParadise]

106. No....I know exactly what they both are.

If the state BELIEVES a crime was committed they will move to indict, and go to trail

If not they won't...

It is simple

[sheshe2]

122. Really? That Simple.

No bias at all...

Concerns arise about prosecutor in Michael Brown case

(CNN) -- While protesters in Ferguson, Missouri, are demanding justice for the killing of Michael Brown by police, questions are being asked about the man who at the moment is responsible for pursuing any prosecution and whether he can be impartial.

Some residents and community leaders contend St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert McCulloch has deep ties to the police and has favored law enforcement in criminal cases.

Missouri State Sen. Jamilah Nasheed launched a petition that now has more than 26,000 signatures to remove McCulloch from the case and replace him with a special prosecutor to handle any criminal case arising from the August 9 shooting of Brown, an African-American who was unarmed when killed by a white police officer.

The shooting has touched off demonstrations that have led to confrontations with police, and some looting and violence.

The National Guard was called in, President Barack Obama appealed for "understanding" and cooler heads, and Attorney General Eric Holder visited Ferguson on Wednesday to assess things. His agency has launched a civil rights probe.

No, it is not that simple!

[graegoyle]

216. Indictment by the GRAND JURY, means:

We believe your charges have merit and support a full trial to determine guilt.

A TRIAL IS WHERE GUILT IS DETERMINED.

So, I was right; you do not know.

Even in your statement you state the DA "will move to indict". SUGGEST TO INDICT to go to full trial. The DA is not supposed to determine GUILT, but is SUPPOSED to present the best case on behalf of the state; the PEOPLE.

That did not happen here. The opposite occurred.

[rhett o rick]

52. " If there is no indictment, it means the system worked and justice prevailed."

Does that mean that if there is an indictment that the system didn't work?

If there is no indictment it doesn't mean the system works, it means the system in place failed to give an indictment. The Grand Jury system isn't a fair system. If the prosecutor sides with the police, which happens in most cases, then the outcome will favor the police. DU is where "politically liberal" posters discuss issues. Do you know what "politically liberal" means? Do you qualify?

[Live and Learn]

56. What BS. Do you know how easy it generally is to get an indictment?

If it were anyone of us, given the same evidence, we would have been indicted in a day.

The system is corrupt and the police are out of control.

[scarystuffyo]

84. You shoot and kill an unarmed man 20 feet away

after he ran away , we are going to jail

[Live and Learn]

57. Yes Sheshe2, some do.

The protestors are right. "They think it's a game." "They think it's a joke"

[dionysus]

6. what about riots do you find so funny?

[sheshe2]

8. Thank you dionysus...

knew I had not lost my mind. This poster has been busy recently.

[AnalystInParadise]

115. Thank you for noticing my posting habits.

I am not sure if I should feel flattered or frightened. I have no idea what your posting habits are, nor do I care.

[sheshe2]

120. Well you sure as hell are all over this thread~!

Yes, I am getting to know your posting habits!

[WillyT]

7. Yeah... It Should Be Real Entertaining Watching The Killer Apes Going After Black Folk...

[BklnDem75]

135. Perhaps some steak...

[Travis_0004]

11. Is it still racist if there are actually riots?

[sheshe2]

15. Holy Shit. We are debating that racism is or is not alive and well in 2014!?

So many deniers.

You asked!

Is it still racist if there are actually riots?

Do I really have to answer that question for you? You are tone deaf.

[mimi85]

23. Hear, hear...

some people listen, but don't really hear (or vice versa). Low comprehension level, I guess. DU has been kind of a downer lately. Too depressing. Take care, she she.

[sheshe2]

127. hugs to you mimi!

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

44. They will tell you that there is NO racism here at DU and none in the Democratic Party.

Really. These same people will arrogantly demand that YOU go and find evidence of racism and PROVE to them that it exists!

[1StrongBlackMan]

50. No,LS ...

they will tell you there is no "REAL" racism here on DO or in the Democratic Party. (I read that the other day.)

[sheshe2]

58. And they will be wrong every damn time.

Gawd, I want to say I don't hate anyone, yet I do not suffer fools gladly. and there are so many fools out there.

[sheshe2]

53. And they can go and do their own fricking homework LS!

I am so sick and tired of stupidity, they want answers they are out there if they chose to educate themselves. Yet they won't. They don't give a shit.

God this place tires me.

Ferguson is a powder keg right now and it sure is being fueled by a whole lot of ugly racist stupidity.

[AnalystInParadise]

102. Racism exists

all across society. White on black racism, white on Hispanic racism white on Asian racism, Black on white racism, Asian on Black racism, the permutations are vast.

What does not necessarily exist is racism in St. Louis County if the Grand Jury does not indict in this one particular case.

I am more than willing to let justice be served and if the investigation indicts and goes to trial that is a good thing because it means the system found enough evidence to try to prove a crime was committed.

Conversely

If the system does not indict it means the system investigated and believed that no crime took place, or that the facts leave enough reasonable doubt that a crime occurred.

Saying it is racism 10,000 times if there is no indictment does not make it racism, it makes you unwilling to accept that the investigation discovered no crime. This is so elementary and it is telling of people's motivations that I am receiving flack for being rational, consistent and logical.

[kwassa]

138. The grand jury does what the prosecutor tells it to.

Justice prevails only if the prosecutor is just.

If the prosecutor has a strong pro-police prejudice, which many do as they work closely with police, than the prosecutor, and the jury, will be unlikely to return an indictment. The prosecutor will only present the facts that support his opinion to the grand jury; they will know of no others.

If the prosecutor has a racial prejudice, the result will be the same.

The racial makeup of the grand jury is important as well, because, like it or not, whites and blacks have very different experiences of interacting with police forces. That is, in fact, the essence of what this case is about; disparate enforcement of laws based on race.

[JustAnotherGen]

142. thanks kwassa

I don't think many DUers have ever served on a grand jury or lead one.

It is the the Prosecutors show - at least that's the way it works in NY.


I'm also super concerned about the leaks. On a grand jury - you are supposed to STFU.

[1StrongBlackMan]

161. There is no such thing as non-white on white RACISM in America ...

there is non-white bigotry; but that is NOT the same as Racism.

[NaturalHigh]

163. That's simply not true.

[1StrongBlackMan]

164. Perhaps you should . ..

Make that argument to the social scientists that study and write/report on the topic.

[NaturalHigh]

173. I have a degree in history and government.

There was a good bit of social science course work required for me to get my degree. Outside of this board, I have never once seen it argued that racism exists only among whites.

[1StrongBlackMan]

195. I offer you the following 21st Century (academic) definitions ...

of "Racism":

Racism can be broadly defined as a phenomenon that maintains or exacerbates avoidable and unfair inequalities in power, resources, or opportunities across racial, ethnic, cultural, or religious groups in society. Racism can be expressed through beliefs (e.g., negative and inaccurate stereotypes), emotions (e.g., fear or hatred), or behaviors/practices (e.g., unfair treatment) (Berman & Paradies, 2010).

And,

Clark et al. (26) defined racism as “the beliefs, attitudes, institutional
arrangements, and acts that tend to denigrate individuals
or groups because of phenotypic characteristics or ethnic
group affiliation” (p. 805).

Clark R, Anderson NB, Clark VR, et al.: Racism as a stressor
for African Americans: A biopsychosocial model. American
Psychologist. 1999, 54:805–816.

Notice these definitions contain power component of (cultural/institutional) power that is absent from any definition of "bigotry".

Does that clarify things?

[NaturalHigh]

198. I don't see anything there that can only be applied...

to one particular race. Whatever definition you may choose to apply, I don't accept that racism exists only among white people.

Apparently we are just not going to agree on this one, which is fine. Not all conversations have to end in agreement.

[1StrongBlackMan]

199. Well ...

I don't accept that racism exists only among white people.

So you a choosing to ignore that the definitions clearly speak to cultural/institutional power ... something that PoC do not possess in America ... That should be a problem for an academic, just as the right choosing to ACCEPT the weight of the evidence indicating that climate change is real and man has a hand in it, should pose a problem ... but a least only a few flaunt their academic credentials when doing it.

[NaturalHigh]

200. As I said earlier, we are just not going to agree on this.

I'm sorry if you think I was flaunting my academic credentials. In no way do I consider myself an academic. It has been years since I worked in the education field, and I certainly don't miss it. I merely wanted to point out that in all of my course work I have never heard racism defined in the way that you have. I don't deny that other people have defined it in that way, but that's not the commonly accepted definition in my experience.

[1StrongBlackMan]

202. We can not agree because ..

You choose not to accept modern definition (s) of the term.

[NaturalHigh]

206. Modern perhaps, but widely accepted?

I would question that.

We both have our minds made up. Fair enough. You take care.

[AnalystInParadise]

178. And thank you for returning the favor

and giving me the dumbest, yet funniest thing I have read in a long time. You have a potential career in either comedy or speculative fiction.

[1StrongBlackMan]

196. Facts are often considered "Dumb" by the ignorant ...

willfully, or otherwise.

See any rightwing discussion on any scientific topic ... when they run out of arguments, they resort to "That's just dumb."

{Note: I am not inferring that you are rightwing; just ignorant (i.e., lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular.}

[maced666]

48. More than ever before

[AnalystInParadise]

100. Who is denying anything....

Racism exists.

Racism does not necessarily exist in this case if Wilson is not indicted.

Why can't you grasp that?

[sheshe2]

129. It does not necessrily exist here? Why?

Please explain in detail why racism may exist elsewhere but not here.

[sheshe2]

208. Crickets from you!

I asked you to explain in detail.

[OneGrassRoot]

203. Prime example of why I rarely come here any more...

let alone log in.

The fact that there are so many who deny that racism still exists, on a site such as DU, is almost incomprehensible to me.

I logged in to give you a hug and huge kudos for fighting the good fight, sheshe2.

[sheshe2]

205. You just made me cry OneGrassRoot.

Thank you and a huge back at you.

Miss you. Best to you and yours.

[MrScorpio]

35. The Ferguson Police Department look fully prepared to go-a-rioting

They've even brought some friends along, the National Guard.

If both are planning on conducting more violent riots against mostly peaceful, mostly black protesters, then sure... I'd call that racist.

Watch out for agent provocateurs.

[sheshe2]

90. They are locked and loaded...

and they are bringing along the KKK along as well MrScorpio. They sure as hell have a party planned and it will not be pretty. Racist, yes it will be. Question? Where were the tanks and teargas and the military armor when Cliven Bundy pointed guns at the feds hmmm...oh wait Cliven had committed a crime for years, oh my, he was white so it was okay.

Nope. No racism here, move along folks.

[Logical]

18. Does anyone doubt there will be riots? Should the police do nothing? Remember.....

businesses will be hurt, people will lose money and income.

Should the police do nothing?

[sheshe2]

24. Well, should police be allowed to use excessive force against black protesters?

They will discriminate, lol, unless you are white, they get a pass every damn time. Remember Cliven Bundy?

Is Cliven Bundy the New NRA Poster Child?

With Bunkerville crisis, NRA reaping what it has sowed through decades of insurrectionist propaganda

"There never was a government without force. What is the meaning of government? An institution to make people do their duty. A government leaving it to a man to do his duty, or not, as he pleases, would be a new species of government, or rather no government at all." - Second Amendment author James Madison, during the 1788 Virginia Ratifying Convention

A potentially bloody tragedy was averted on April 11th when federal agents withdrew from the Bunkerville, Nevada ranch of Cliven Bundy following a tense-standoff in a dispute over grazing rights. Despite having a court order that allowed them to impound cattle of Bundy's that were trespassing on federal land, Bureau of Land Management (BLM) officials were forced to retreat and return his livestock after a "1,000-strong coalition of armed men" gathered at the ranch and made it clear they were ready for a shooting war. A BLM statement said the retreat was required because of "serious concern about the safety of employees and members of the public."






The armed gathering of pro-gun activists, anti-government groups and right-wing-politicians at Bundy's ranch did not happen in a political vacuum. It was the result of decades of propaganda from the National Rifle Association (NRA) and other gun lobby groups; propaganda that (perversely) informs Americans that they have an individual right under the Second Amendment to shoot elected officials, law enforcement officers, and military service members if they sense our government has become "tyrannical."

There is certainly nothing "tyrannical" in the behavior of the Bureau of Land Management. The agency was founded in 1946 and administers 245 million acres of public land in 12 Western states. They have shown remarkable patience and restraint in their dealings with Bundy, which date back two decades. In 1993, Bundy stopped paying federal grazing fees. Since that time, he has expanded the range of federal land on which he is trespassing. As BLM noted, "This is a matter of fairness and equity, and we remain disappointed that Cliven Bundy continues to not comply with the same laws that 16,000 public lands ranchers do every year. After 20 years and multiple court orders to remove the trespass cattle, Mr. Bundy owes the American taxpayers in excess of $1 million."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-horwitz/is-cliven-bundy-the-new-n_b_5197066.html

Why do white people get a pass and BLACK people do not? Try to be logical here. Businesses will be hurt? People will lose money and income? Holy shit, that is more important than the death count we will see when this breaks, the white people just declared war on black people and once again it will be excessive force. People should not die for the color of their skin.

[Logical]

25. Of course not! But I am sure Black business owners would like the police to protect their.....

businesses also.

Would you really rather the police totally pull out of Ferguson and let the mobs do anything they want?

So you would choose NO POLICE anywhere in the city?

[sheshe2]

49. I want a logical solution.

This is not. The force is excessive! The police now own military gear, you read that correct? Military! Ferguson is not a war zone. The people protesting in Ferguson are not the enemy! Michael was shot with excessive force, I believe he was murdered. I believe that it is being covered up. I believe there is a history of said corruption in Ferguson. Have you read about any of that? The money machine? Ferguson makes money off of black people. You know what I am talking about, correct?




Logical. I want some sanity. I hold peoples lives in the forefront, they are the ones I care about.

[Live and Learn]

61. +1 nt

[1StrongBlackMan]

64. WOW ...

The same folks, 2 minutes ago, riling against the evils of capitalism, and the government's disregard for individual rights (e.g., 1st amendment) are, now, calling for L/E to gear up to squelch the individual right to protest on the chance that property rights must be protected.

When it comes to race/racial issues ... (presumably, white) "Liberals"/"Progressives" make for strange beings.

[Spazito]

77. Well said! I've noticed this too n/t

[sheshe2]

80. Yup, I guess there is a difference of whose rights have meaning. Yours obviously do not.

You are black after all.

I am appalled at some of the responses here, sadly not surprised. I am white and I get it, why do they not understand?

Yes, property rights over peoples lives. They are black after all. Black lives matter 1Stong and I fear a bloodbath ahead. I hope the President and the Department of Justice will step in and do there best to stop it.

[Logical]

89. I'm confused what your plan is......

Should the police be ready for possible trouble? Or are you saying that it should be like any other normal day? If you were running the please department would you have more officers ready to respond or the same amount as any other normal day?

And are you saying that businesses in that town should not be protected?

Idiotic to me not to be prepared for the worst and expect the best.

[sheshe2]

91. It is all about who they aim their protection for or at.

You have seen the pictures have you not logical? The peaceful protests and the excessive use of force. The Ferguson PD is way out of control.

They said they only targeted criminals, that was a lie. They targeted peaceful protesters with teargas, the media as well, they also made arrests of the media. I have posts about that if you care to look, I am to damn tired to find it for you.

I have no confidence in their upcoming response, it will be deadly.

[JustAnotherGen]

143. What if the protestors quietly sit down

On the sidewalks - and the police and their minions -

Go after them?

[Logical]

150. Of course not. Nt

[JustAnotherGen]

152. So - not even that is acceptable to you?

You just said a lot with a quick one sentence response. Volumes.

[Logical]

155. WTF are you talking about, I said not to go after them. Reading hard? nt

[JustAnotherGen]

158. WTF - Reading hard? n/t You weren't clear. WTF! You weren't clear! WTF!!!!!!

Tit for tat.

[Egnever]

39. Not the same situation

One happened in the middle of the desert, the other will take place downtown.

One the armed idiots do no damage if left alone the other has potential for tons of damage to many businesses.

The anger is warranted to be sure but comparing those two situations is apples and oranges.

[sheshe2]

92. Apples and Oranges?

What? They did no damage? Cliven broke the law. Armed supports aimed guns at the feds, that is against the law, yet as white they were allowed to do this. Had they been black they would be dead or in jail.

One happened in the middle of the desert, the other will take place downtown.
One the armed idiots do no damage if left alone the other has potential for tons of damage to many businesses.

What? Because the white man did it in the desert and the black man in downtown makes a difference? OMG, you make me cry, cause you do not get the point, the difference, of how a white man and a black is treated. So many tears for our sad country that does not have a clue that racism exists.

[Travis_0004]

40. How many gas stations did Bundy burn down?

[BklnDem75]

83. Yeah...

If the people of Ferguson just pulled out their guns and threatened law enforcement like the good folks at Bundy ranch, they wouldn't even need the national guard.

[JustAnotherGen]

156. He's a thief and a tax cheat and needs to go to jail

Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy was all over the national media this past week when federal Bureau of Land Management agents seized his cattle to settle the more than $1 million in unpaid fines he’d racked up since 1993. Armed militants flocked to Bundy’s side, prompting the bureau to back off for fear of human safety.

The fines are a result of Bundy grazing his 900 cattle on 600,000 acres of bureau-managed public lands since 1993 without a permit. He’s ignored his fees, fines, permits and multiple court orders.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/economic-intelligence/2014/04/22/cliven-bundy-owes-american-taxpayers-for-his-cattle-grazing

He had yahoos and losers out there using women as 'shields' this past summer.

He's not some sweetie sweetheart - he's a cheap two bit dimestore thug and thief.

Like - what a lot of white folks thought Michael Brown was - and thus he 'had it coming'.

Maybe Cliven Bundy needs to get shot - I mean - he's a thief right? A MILLION fuckin' dollars of my money and yours he has STOLEN.

His face isn't clean and he's got a long history of law breaking. Stop using him as a shield - you need a better example than that criminal.

I want my money back from Cliven. I actually do a little thing called WORK - I don't sit around and cheat other people the way he does.

[sheshe2]

169. Brava!

[JustAnotherGen]

172. Grazie Bambala!

[Live and Learn]

209. How many did Ferguson protestors burn down?

What the heck is your point?

[arcane1]

27. Yeah, I'm not bothered by the Gov's actions today. I'm just worried.

Specifically, I'm worried about idiot klan-persons instigating trouble.

[Logical]

29. I agree, the KKK shit worries me. It is sad I don't 100% trust some of the cops that they....

are not rooting for the KKK.

[arcane1]

32. Exactly. Here, the police are usually protecting the protesters. That's what I'd love to see in MO

But I don't expect that. Hell, one racist dipshit throws a rock at a cop and it's going to be a mess

[7962]

34. I bet they dont show. Theyve been exposed and will fade away. All 12 of 'em

If theres even THAT many. Or they wont be able to find their way to town.

[arcane1]

37. Considering how these things usually go, there were never going to be more than 3 of them anyway

So there's that

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

47. The very fact that you assume that there will be riots is in itself very racist!

You ought to be ashamed for that assumption.

Again, there IS racism here at Democratic Underground.

[Nye Bevan]

87. There were no riots when Zimmerman was acquitted.

But it is good to be prepared.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

145. Prepared for what exactly? In case the negras erupt?

[Nye Bevan]

146. The KKK has promised to be there and to use "lethal force". (nt)

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

147. You honestly think that the police are there to stop the KKK? Laughable!

[Nye Bevan]

148. So should they simply ignore that threat?

Would you like to explain to a black business owner why the KKK was able to burn down his store because law enforcement was not prepared?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

149. Are you really this naive? The police in Ferguson don't give a damn about black folks

there! Or have you not seen it with your own two eyes? Do you really think they are going to stop the KKK from terrorizing black folk in Ferguson? Be honest with yourself if you can't be honest with me.

[nc4bo]

59. There is a better way, not instant but would require an honest effort on the part of the local PD

and all LEOs on a Statewide level to at least make a better appearance pretending to seek real justice when a wrong has been committed. Even better if there was a real effort to fix what is so obviously broken. And I'm not just referring to Darren Wilson murdering an unarmed human being.

But first, we must admit that this country has a serious race problem and it effects blacks, brown, yellow........ it is real, it exists and is a damn recurring, festering boil.

Too many people STILL can not admit that we have a problem.

...and I really do understand what you're saying but people are angry, feel wrong and oppressed and tossing tear gas canisters at little kids and old people isn't going to make the situation any better either.

[Nye Bevan]

20. Really? The Klan have promised to be there and to use "lethal force",

and you're saying that the governor should not prepare for this? Just cross his fingers, hope for the best, and if a Klansman kills someone, that's just too bad?

[sheshe2]

31. Really?

You think the excessive force is for the KKK? Nope it is for the Black Man Rising, they are not now or ever allowed to rise. Did you happen to watch any of Ferguson being tear gassed in their protests? Did you?

Did you happen to see media arrested and they themselves tear gassed? I posted today that the PD said they only gassed criminals. LOL what a fucking lie.

Oh the Klan will kill and so will the racist PD. Who is being protected here? Not black people, not by a long shot, oh wait Wilson already did that, yes up close and personal as well.

[Nye Bevan]

55. Do you think black business owners want the National Guard to be there? (nt)

[1StrongBlackMan]

74. I suspect the business owners, Black or otherwise, ...

want the GJ to do justice, i.e., come back with an indictment ... the same as the would be, non-klan, protesters. That would avert any/most of the violence. Right?

[Nye Bevan]

81. Except that the Klan might riot in that case.

And possibly attack black-owned businesses. It's good to prepare for all eventualities.

[1StrongBlackMan]

69. Do you really believe the Ferguson PD, MO State Police and the National Guard ...

are gearing up to confront the klan? Really?

[Nye Bevan]

72. Who else has promised "lethal force"?

I hope that they are bluffing. The fears of unrest are probably overblown IMO (there were no riots after the Zimmerman not guilty verdict) but isn't it better to be prepared?

[1StrongBlackMan]

76. Then, wouldn't the prudent course be ...

to engage the community to point out the klan; rather than, make plans for overwhelming armed police presence?

[Nye Bevan]

79. If I was a black business owner whose store was being destroyed by the Klan

my choice would probably be an armed presence by the police or National Guard to protect me.

[sheshe2]

97. The PD in Ferguson has already shown how to use lethal force when they took down Michael.

Then they left his body uncovered for 4 hours in the street, so much disrespect there, so much.

Then the riot gear, oh wait they had military grade gear. The show of force was beyond anything I have ever seen. Yes it was again a show of lethal force. they showed that they can and will use it.

I believe this is a tipping point for some justice. I only hope that lives will not be taken in this war on black people.

[sheshe2]

170. The police in Ferguson already used lethal force...

when Wilson shot and killed an unarmed Michael Brown. Then showing all that compassion for the young dead man, they left his body uncovered for 4 hours in the hot sun. Hmmm... very similar to the lynching's in the past, the bodies were left hanging as a warning. It was a power play.

[mercuryblues]

134. Why yes

Don't you realize that. [/sarcasm]

Anonymous unhooded ex deputy chief of police, Borst and active duty cop, Honeywell as kkk members. Sure they are going there to 'confront' the klan.

I believe there are enough kkkops that will turn a blind eye to klan activities, while counter protesting with their guns. I believe there are enough kkkops that will cloud and kkkover up an investigation should this turn into a kkkluster fuckkk.

[KMOD]

41. Between the KKK threats, the State of Emergency Declaration,

before the Grand Jury decision is even released, the FBI's extreme warning, the racist billboard, and the bringing in the National Guard, if people can't see the racial undertones, they're blind.

It seems like a threat, that no protests, even peaceful ones, will be tolerated.

[Egnever]

60. Do you have any doubt in your mind

That if they dont come back with an indictment there will be riots?

Hell if they don't I will bet you there will be riots in multiple cities. Sheshe herself is practically calling for them to happen in this thread.

I would argue that if there isn't an indictment that riots are about the only recourse left. Pretending it will be peaceful with so much pent up anger on this is disingenuous at best.



disclaimer
No I don't want to see people riot. I would prefer a peaceful solution but I honestly don't see the anger about this going away peacefully.

[KMOD]

75. The OP is absolutely not calling for riots.

The OP is upset, rightfully so, of the undertones that all hell will break loose. It's quite an overreaction, the undertones, not the OP, based on fear of black people.

Predictions of massive nationwide riots were predicted after the Zimmerman acquittal as well. They never came to fruition.

I cannot say there will be no riots, if the Grand Jury decides not to indict. People are very upset. But it will not be the mass chaos that is being predicted.

I fully expect to see protests though. If any good can come from this, regardless of the Grand Jury decision, is that I hope it opens peoples eyes to the discrimination that is still occurring today. There is a big distrust between black communities and police. There are reasons for that. And until those reasons are addressed, fully, this anger and distrust will continue to happen, as it should.

[Nye Bevan]

82. There were no riots when Zimmerman was acquitted.

It is, of course, always good to be prepared, however.

[sheshe2]

128. What the hell!

That if they dont come back with an indictment there will be riots?

Hell if they don't I will bet you there will be riots in multiple citiesSheshe herself is practically calling for them to happen in this thread.

What did you just say?!! WTF?!!! I am advocating violence? I am practically calling for it? "sheshe herself is practically calling for them to happen in this thread." I think you should reread the Op. Not one sentence I said or 3chicspolitico that I quoted said that. I am completely dismayed at your outright attack on me. You owe me an apology.

[sheshe2]

171. Exactly KMOD!

A show of force before the jury ruling is even announced. The people of Ferguson are indeed being threatened, and I am not talking about the white citizens.

[ScreamingMeemie]

63. A few of the replies in this thread have broken me for the evening...

I am distressed alongside you, and I wait with my breath held.

[sheshe2]

174. I know what you mean SceamingMeemie.

[ReRe]

70. Call me crazy...

... but there might be an even bigger riot if the Grand Jury DOES return an indictment on Wilson. In that case, the majority of the residents of Ferguson will be marching in the streets in celebration. The Governor might be faced with an enraged KKK who turns violent on the celebrants in the streets. I have never known of a Grand Jury to take so much time in deliberations. Those films of Wilson strolling in and out of the station apparently unscathed were disgusting, knowing that Michael Brown was still laying in the street.

[Nye Bevan]

73. According to some in this thread, an enraged KKK is nothing to worry about,

notwithstanding their promise to use "lethal force".

[ReRe]

78. I don't know what you are talking about...

... funny how two people can read the same thing and come up with different interpretations.

[Nye Bevan]

85. Pointing out that some here are downplaying the KKK threat that you allude to.

Sorry if my post confused you, but happy to clarify.

[azurnoir]

71. Exactly thank you for posting this

[Cha]

93. A Couple of Tweets, she..

Matt Murphy @MattMurph24
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Remember when the Governor of Nevada called the National Guard in during the Bundy Ranch standoff? Neither do I.
11:28 AM - 17 Nov 2014 209 Retweets 93 favorites

Matt Becker @mwb1980
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.@MattMurph24 White people with guns are not nearly as scary to the establishment as black people with voices.
11:34 AM - 17 Nov 2014 48 Retweets 24 favorites

John Fugelsang ✔ @JohnFugelsang
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Despite a State of Emergency remember the #Ferguson cop is innocent until proven guilty. As opposed to, say, an unarmed guy he shot 6 times.
12:01 PM - 17 Nov 2014 673 Retweets 440 favorites

The Obama Diary

For Michael Brown and Ferguson, she~

[Nye Bevan]

94. I do remember the ATF being called in during the Waco siege (nt)

[Number23]

95. "White people with guns are not nearly as scary to the establishment as black people with voices."

Hell YES.

And sorry but when it comes to issues of race, racism and racial oppression, white people of all political stripes (even a shitload of leftier than thou "liberals&quot are all too quick to race to the establishment's side. We've seen it so many times it comes as no shock to anyone, not anymore. Not for a long damned time.

[Cha]

99. "Hell Yes" is AbsoF******Lutely, 23! All the times we've seen the US Police makes nice with White

guys with guns.. and shoot an Unarmed Black person. We're not making this shite up.

[AnalystInParadise]

103. Religious nutjobs

but kind of disproves what you just claimed.

[link:|

[Cha]

110. Nah, it doesn't disprove my post.

[AnalystInParadise]

113. Yeah

it kinda does.

[Cha]

117. No, it doesn't at all.

[AnalystInParadise]

118. Agree to disagree

but yeah it does.

[JustAnotherGen]

177. You are correct

Did you ever hear about the Waco Horror? There's something about that longitude and latitude that brings out the crazy people.

[BklnDem75]

136. You went back 21 years...

To the outcome of a 51 day standoff, after 4 agents were killed. If anything, you've weakened your case.

[JustAnotherGen]

157. Good point

[Number23]

180. But his great great great grandad was 1/3 Indian so he KNOWS racism, man

[Rex]

189. Total desperation. Comparing a compound of religious extremists

to a town of people. Says a lot about the poster imo.

[sheshe2]

116. "White people with guns are not nearly as scary to the establishment as black people with voices"

Correct and that is so terribly sad. I do believe I pissed off a few peeps tonight with this OP. Good, I am in the mood to piss them off. I am tired and angry and hurt right now, I want to lash out. I take my dad to his resting place on Friday, it was delayed due to reasons beyond our control.

[Number23]

181. People need to pissed off sometimes, sheshe. And it is very telling that one way to make

GD quieter than a church mouse is to post something about race. Actually, it's either quiet as hell or our assorted race trolls make their grand and ever so unwanted appearances in order to inform everyone that the racist things that everyone is seeing are in fact, NOT racist. Because they say so.

Peace to you and to your father. May he RIP and your family find peace as well.

[sheshe2]

182. I have noticed that as well...such quiet.

Calm before the storm, methinks.

Thank you for your kind wishes Number23. It has been a roller coaster ride for my family in the past two years, one worked out well after a long recovery. The others not so much. I know my dad is resting in peace now.

Best to you and yours as well~

[sheshe2]

192. Here is this too~

Must read.

In the days after 9/11, it was common to hear people say that it was the first time Americans had really experienced terrorism on their own soil. Those sentiments were historically wrong, and willfully put aside acts that were organized on a large scale, had a political goal, and were committed with the specific intention of being nightmarishly memorable. The death cult that was lynching furnished this country with such spectacles for a half century. (The tallies vary, but, by some estimates, there were thirty-three hundred lynchings in the decades between the end of Reconstruction and the civil-rights era.) We know intuitively, not abstractly, about terrorism’s theatrical intent. The sight of Michael Brown, sprawled on Canfield Drive for four hours in the August sun, dead at the hands of an officer who was unnamed for a week, recalled that memory. It had the effect of reminding that crowd of spontaneous mourners of their own refuted humanity. A single death can be understood as a collective threat. The media didn’t whip up these concerns among the black population; history did that.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025457550

I may repost this Number 23, as another reminder.

[sheshe2]

101. Rest in Peace Michael.

We stand for you now.

Thanks Cha.

[Cha]

121. Exposed! "2 Florida Police Officers Fired For Being Ku Klux Klan Members [Photos]" At least we have

this in Florida, she..

The southern states have been busying spreading the hateful message of the Ku Klux Klan and a couple of police officers in Florida have just been outed as members.

An international FBI probe specifically named Deputy Police Chief David Borst and Cpl. George Hunnewell as active Klansmen. When Police Chief Terry Isaacs found out about the news, he fired Hunnewell and Borst resigned with more than 20 years of service -

MOre
http://hiphopwired.com/2014/07/14/2-florida-police-officers-fired-ku-klux-klan-members-photos/


Michael Brown~

[sheshe2]

124. Yes! Thank you!

Good work Cha!

Yes it is Florida....I want to know how many are in Ferguson next. Damn them all!

[Cha]

126. Posters on TOD were taking an educated guess that Chief Jackson is. :(

Yeah, these two in Florida are just ones who are exposed.. So Far.

[sheshe2]

130. I sure will put my money on a few more!

Fuck them all....gotta go Cha. So late.

[Cha]

131. Yes, I thought you were long gone, she..

to tomorrow, she

[JustAnotherGen]

139. sheshe

This is why - I think 'sit ins' are the answer. I don't know a single soul in MO - wish I could influence them on this.

What's funny? heaven05 grew up in those times -and gave me a like and a nod of agreement on this.


They - them ones - those people - at Nixon's behest are going to do whatever they want. At this point - we EXPECT violence from the authorities. Either way - their intent is to harm and kill citizens.


We have more power when dogs are unleashed to rip the faces off of peaceful children. We have more power -

And eventually - we win.

We know sit ins work. And we know the IMAGE of brutality against peaceful black folks has worked before too.

[bettyellen]

153. + 10000000

[sheshe2]

183. I pray for a sit in JAG.

If they do, there will be hell to pay if the police use force. I read somewhere tonight that the "peace officers" will wear regular clothes in the beginning. I hope that is the case. My heart goes out to Ferguson.

May they all stay safe. I want to believe that, yet~

[JustAnotherGen]

154. I love this thread

I love to know who I should cross the street when I see coming - this type of thread always shows me the 'true faces' of folks. Thanks for always shining the light in dark places.

[NaturalHigh]

162. I seem to remember riots in Ferguson a few months ago.

Before anyone says that those were "police riots", I haven't seen any reports of police officers setting the Quiktrip on fire.

Being prepared for violence is only prudent. How pissed would people be if the governor did nothing and there was widespread violence?

[bravenak]

166. I saw cops teargassing children.

Quite a bit of force was used against the media also. I call teargassing peaceful protestors and shooting public officials with rubber bullets a riot.

[sheshe2]

175. The Governor failed to mention any black people that he would be protecting.

Yet he sure used 2 black cops as props behind him when he gave his speech.

[NaturalHigh]

176. I don't think he mentioned race at all.

Am I mistaken?

[AnalystInParadise]

179. Let them have their racial based fantasies

It seems that can't or won't live in reality. I don't know which it is, but fortunately they are not representative of the public at large.

[sheshe2]

184. And you~

Continue on with denial, it ain't just a river.

[AnalystInParadise]

185. I am not the one

claiming racism where none exists and claiming guilt before an investigation is complete. One of us lives in denial.....here's a hint, it's not me.

[sheshe2]

186. Michael was shot down in cold blood.

No attempt to arrest him, none. Wilson disappeared after the shooting. No report on the incident was forthcoming. The PD was covering it up. We have leaks from the damn Grand Jury!!!!!! We have a prosecutor with huge ties to the PD who was asked to recuse himself and you have the nerve to jump this thread and explain to everyone that if they decide not to indict, YOU say the system works despite the leaks and manipulation from the court. I feel so sorry for you that you are so easily manipulated. Or maybe you only wish to manipulate us.

[AnalystInParadise]

187. Interesting that you call

our criminal justice system manipulation.

Sorry I refuse to pre-judge anyone. I tend to believe in our system of law and order, and again, I take great comfort that people that would throw Wilson behind bars before an investigation is complete are in the extreme minority.

Good night sir or ma'am. I hope someday you find your objectivity.

[JustAnotherGen]

194. A tale of two suspects - two cities - two states

The New Yorker
SEARCH
Our Local Correspondents OCTOBER 6, 2014 ISSUE

Before the Law
A boy was accused of taking a backpack. The courts took the next three years of his life.

BY JENNIFER GONNERMAN


http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/10/06/law-3

Kalief Browder spent more than a thousand days confined on Rikers Island.
In the early hours of Saturday, May 15, 2010, ten days before his seventeenth birthday, Kalief Browder and a friend were returning home from a party in the Belmont section of the Bronx. They walked along Arthur Avenue, the main street of Little Italy, past bakeries and cafés with their metal shutters pulled down for the night. As they passed East 186th Street, Browder saw a police car driving toward them. More squad cars arrived, and soon Browder and his friend found themselves squinting in the glare of a police spotlight. An officer said that a man had just reported that they had robbed him. “I didn’t rob anybody,” Browder replied. “You can check my pockets.”

The officers searched him and his friend but found nothing. As Browder recalls, one of the officers walked back to his car, where the alleged victim was, and returned with a new story: the man said that they had robbed him not that night but two weeks earlier. The police handcuffed the teens and pressed them into the back of a squad car. “What am I being charged for?” Browder asked. “I didn’t do anything!” He remembers an officer telling them, “We’re just going to take you to the precinct. Most likely you can go home.” Browder whispered to his friend, “Are you sure you didn’t do anything?” His friend insisted that he hadn’t.

I wouldnt want Wilson to go through that. But - even prior to being a cop . . . I highly doubt he would have. Not in NYC, not in Ferguson, not in Sanford, not in Waco . . .

[redruddyred]

190. you're right, but white america does not agree with you.

I overhear them chatting at the grocery stores and whatnot about minorities and their victim fetishes.

[SMC22307]

213. White grocery shoppers = "white america"?

[redruddyred]

215. oh yeah people who eat food are a totally unrepresentative portion of the populace.

?

[Rex]

191. Looking at some of the replies, it is as if racism doesn't exist in their world.

They just can't see it no matter how obvious it is. Even when right in front of them.

SO...good old boy, cowpoke, libertarian Clive Bundy threatens state and local law enforcement with violence, has wacko preppers show up to help fight and possibly KILL law enforcement, is clearly breaking the law and flaunting it. Cops leave, governor doesn't call in NG. End of story.

SOMETHING might or might NOT happen in a kinda small town, yet that states governor declares a state of emergency, calls in the NG, the Klan shows up in hopes of killing some folks, local PDs get more military supplies so they can 'protect' the city and the towns residents are left thinking the whole world is fucking against them.

RACISM? FUCK YA AND IT IS STATEWIDE!

[sheshe2]

204. I would say that you summed that up nicely, Rex.

thank you and now we wait.

[davidpdx]

193. You are preaching to the choir my friend

We all want this. We all want a just verdict for Brown. We all want to see this end peacefully.

I hope we know something soon.

[lonestarnot]

197. Take a deep seat and a tight hold. It could be a rough ride ahead.

[helpmetohelpyou]

201. People are scared so I can see the reason

[SMC22307]

214. It's funny how Obama's biggest fans praise his cool, calm, collected style.

Whomever penned that hysterical blog post should learn from him.