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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 04:48 PM Nov 2014

Parents Force School To Replace History Book With Lesson About Kindly Slave Owners

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/uncucumbered/parents_force_school_to_replace_history_book

"The fact that this textbook was in our schools for 10 years, is a system failure.” Brooks Ames, a Brookline, Massachusetts parent.

Parents in Brookline, Massachusetts, have won a victory, persuading school officials to replace a fifth grade history book that taught students an oxymoronic version of history - fair and kind slave masters.

WHDH News reports that the Brookline school district has sent a letter to parents promising schools will no longer use Harcourt Horizons: United States History after parents complained about this passage:

“Slaves were treated well or cruelly depending on their owners. Some planters took pride in being fair and kind to their slaves.”


In Brookline?!
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Parents Force School To Replace History Book With Lesson About Kindly Slave Owners (Original Post) KamaAina Nov 2014 OP
Hey Parents - it is called dumbing down. jwirr Nov 2014 #1
But Brookline, a wealthy Boston suburb, has some of the top-rated schools in the country. KamaAina Nov 2014 #2
I believe the parents requested the *removal* of the book cyberswede Nov 2014 #3
If you are correct I deeply apologize. jwirr Nov 2014 #6
agreed, that is my reading etherealtruth Nov 2014 #8
what am i missing? Takket Nov 2014 #4
Not just that. k2qb3 Nov 2014 #12
I wonder if this is one of the textbooks approved by Texas and foisted upon the rest of the country. Arkansas Granny Nov 2014 #5
No, it appears the parents are angry .... etherealtruth Nov 2014 #7
But that is the sort of book that Texas would approve KamaAina Nov 2014 #10
agree, with that etherealtruth Nov 2014 #15
That's a true statement. Is that the whole of JimDandy Nov 2014 #9
Objective history requires not merely truth, but also relevance. LanternWaste Nov 2014 #11
I have to agree. History is indeed a terribly complex subject, btw. AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #13
The problem is... Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #14
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
2. But Brookline, a wealthy Boston suburb, has some of the top-rated schools in the country.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 04:52 PM
Nov 2014

I repeat,

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
3. I believe the parents requested the *removal* of the book
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 04:56 PM
Nov 2014

Or did I read it wrong?

"There's something wrong when we teach our children that there was something good about owning another person. It's sick,” said Arthur Wellington Conquest III, a Brookline parent.

snip

The question many Brookline parents are wondering about now is how that book was used for so long with no outcry.


I think the article title is ambiguous - it should read "Parents Force School To Replace History Book that contains Lesson About Kindly Slave Owners."

Takket

(21,610 posts)
4. what am i missing?
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 04:59 PM
Nov 2014

It is a historical fact that some slave owners were brutal while others were, you could say, downright friendly to their slaves COMPARATIVLY SPEAKING. The overall point that needs to be impressed upon the children is that regardless of whether you spent the evening whipping or joking with your slave, the fact was they were still slaves whose free will was unjustly ripped away from them.

There is no such thing as "good slavery" but at the same time let's understand that not all slaves were treated the same by their masters.

 

k2qb3

(374 posts)
12. Not just that.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:28 PM
Nov 2014

Living in a society that condones slavery buying a slave might be the only way to rescue them from a worse situation.

And no I have no slave-owning ancestors to make excuses for.

Arkansas Granny

(31,525 posts)
5. I wonder if this is one of the textbooks approved by Texas and foisted upon the rest of the country.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:03 PM
Nov 2014

How Texas Inflicts Bad Textbooks on Us

No matter where you live, if your children go to public schools, the textbooks they use were very possibly written under Texas influence. If they graduated with a reflexive suspicion of the concept of separation of church and state and an unexpected interest in the contributions of the National Rifle Association to American history, you know who to blame.

When it comes to meddling with school textbooks, Texas is both similar to other states and totally different. It’s hardly the only one that likes to fiddle around with the material its kids study in class. The difference is due to size—4.8 million textbook-reading schoolchildren as of 2011—and the peculiarities of its system of government, in which the State Board of Education is selected in elections that are practically devoid of voters, and wealthy donors can chip in unlimited amounts of money to help their favorites win.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2012/jun/21/how-texas-inflicts-bad-textbooks-on-us/

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
7. No, it appears the parents are angry ....
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:14 PM
Nov 2014

... that the school utilized a book claiming there were "good" slave owners and "happy" slaves... they found the concept to be complete idiocy.

They want the book out of their school

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
10. But that is the sort of book that Texas would approve
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:23 PM
Nov 2014

Texas buys all its textbooks centrally (does the name Texas School Book Depository ring a bell?) And as Arkansas Granny points out, publishers tend to dumb their textbooks down to get Texas' approval. This would be a classic example.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
15. agree, with that
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:54 PM
Nov 2014

...and there are communities where ignorance is embraced. The community in the article, mercifully, is not one of them

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
9. That's a true statement. Is that the whole of
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:20 PM
Nov 2014

what was found to be objectionable? Now if this publication was trying to erase the horrors of the general conditions of slavery and the egregiousness of slavery as an institution, I could see removing them. I would have protested from day 1 myself until they were removed, if that were the case. As a former professional genealogist, though, this paragraph seems inoccuous.

The cynic in me says that the school board is replacing these 10 year old books largely because they are outdated and their useful life has ended and that this is just an added plus.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
11. Objective history requires not merely truth, but also relevance.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:26 PM
Nov 2014

Objective history requires not merely truth, but also relevance implicit to the subject. One needs to validly illustrate the relevance of a few, kindly slaveholders to the system as whole, else it becomes little more than trivia in its most classic terminology

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
13. I have to agree. History is indeed a terribly complex subject, btw.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:33 PM
Nov 2014

With that said, though, I can't really blame people for expressing a certain other type of cynicism, as some have here.....the RW certainly has tried to mask some pretty awful beliefs and thought processes with seemingly reasonable and erudite language over this past decade in particular.....one must wonder if they took lessons from Orwell in that regard.....

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
14. The problem is...
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:38 PM
Nov 2014

...that the passage, in isolation, seems to imply that slaveholders were equally divided between teh cruel and fair camps whereas, in reality, the vast majority were cruel.

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