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Triana

(22,666 posts)
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 01:30 PM Nov 2014

Bernie Sanders: US may be at ‘tipping point’ where only ‘the billionaire class’ picks presidents

Independent Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders warned on Monday that the United States may have reached a “tipping point” where the “billionaire class” could block any presidential candidates who were fighting for the working class.

Sanders explained during an interview on CNN that he had been traveling the country to determine if he would have the necessary support for a presidential run in 2016.

“I’m giving some thought to it,” he said. “Taking on the billionaire class, and Wall Street, and the Koch brothers is not an easy task.”

“How are you going to get elected president if you take on the billionaire class?” CNN host Chris Cuomo snarked. “Don’t you watch the elections?”

“I’m going to be very honest with you,” Sanders replied. “We may have reached the tipping point where candidates who are fighting for the working class and the middle class of this country may not be able do it anymore because of the power of the billionaire class.”


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Bernie Sanders: US may be at ‘tipping point’ where only ‘the billionaire class’ picks presidents (Original Post) Triana Nov 2014 OP
Never say die, I say he can do it. I just hope he really wants to do it, part of me wonders randys1 Nov 2014 #1
sadly, even if he was president... what's he gonna get done with a rethug house and senate? we're dionysus Nov 2014 #18
Probably not much. But if he had a Dem House and Senate, at least we know he wouldn't squander it Zorra Nov 2014 #20
I wonder if Bernie agrees with your assessment of what Obama and the dems did randys1 Nov 2014 #29
OK. First of all, all Senate majorities are filibuster proof, if the majority makes it so, Zorra Nov 2014 #30
Bernie I hope you run. But if we have reached that point maybe the best Autumn Nov 2014 #2
We are already there. Princeton Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy. woo me with science Nov 2014 #3
Yup. Bernie's a little late to the party on this one. n/t nichomachus Nov 2014 #7
You mean, one of the only politicians talking about it. woo me with science Nov 2014 #8
Nah, he's been talking about the dangers of oligarchy for a long time now.[n/t] Maedhros Nov 2014 #9
Truth Old Nick Nov 2014 #10
Did you notice the way he did not bend or break under tremendous pressure from the so-called JDPriestly Nov 2014 #13
youtube of the interview here: LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #15
I support Bernie and hope he does run, his message needs to get out and they will try everything Dustlawyer Nov 2014 #17
actually carol s-p was too redruddyred Nov 2014 #34
I've said it before and I'll keep saying it: Maedhros Nov 2014 #19
IMO, Bernie is one of the oldest, smartest and bravest politicians in the U.S. ladjf Nov 2014 #26
+10000000000 woo me with science Nov 2014 #33
sorry, Bernie's not late.... Tripper11 Nov 2014 #28
Bless him for daring to speak the truth. K&R polichick Nov 2014 #4
I think there's a word for that. Plutocracy. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #5
Please run, Bernie, and at the very least, allow the people to try to speak through the Zorra Nov 2014 #6
Yes, we need to try that first. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #22
CNN was really tough on Bernie Sanders. I have never seen such a tough interview. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #11
If we had a responsible billionaire class, we might be OK tclambert Nov 2014 #12
IMO, Bernie Sanders dotymed Nov 2014 #14
I have no hope. I see no future......n/t Hotler Nov 2014 #16
I've been thinking the same thing. yardwork Nov 2014 #21
I think we are already there. hifiguy Nov 2014 #23
He might bring out non-voters. Liberal Lolita Nov 2014 #24
We've given the über rich too much power in this country since Reagan. Initech Nov 2014 #25
we're already there. the rest of us merely help set the price. unblock Nov 2014 #27
If nobody fucking votes... yeah! n/t Adrahil Nov 2014 #31
Kick woo me with science Nov 2014 #32
everytime I see bernie's name on DU, my heart jumps a little bit in my chest. redruddyred Nov 2014 #35

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. Never say die, I say he can do it. I just hope he really wants to do it, part of me wonders
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 01:34 PM
Nov 2014

if he really really really wants to be president.

I know he would be a good one, a great one, and no matter what he does, his involvement can only improve the conversation.

I will work for him if I can.

You know, he could do it - lots of people out there hungry as hell for his message...

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
18. sadly, even if he was president... what's he gonna get done with a rethug house and senate? we're
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 03:54 PM
Nov 2014

screwn.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
20. Probably not much. But if he had a Dem House and Senate, at least we know he wouldn't squander it
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 03:58 PM
Nov 2014

within two years by pandering to republicans and Third Way conservatives.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
29. I wonder if Bernie agrees with your assessment of what Obama and the dems did
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:18 PM
Nov 2014

during the approximate 40 days they actually had a filibuster proof majority.

I am actually willing to bet a lot of money he doesn't, and I am wiling to bet that if he TOLD YOU HIMSELF it wouldn't change your mind one bit.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
30. OK. First of all, all Senate majorities are filibuster proof, if the majority makes it so,
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 06:18 PM
Nov 2014

which they can do in a matter of hours, if they wish.

Second, I don't automatically love and worship people in authority, and fully recognize that those in authority are often wrong in their policy judgments and decisions.

Third, if Bernie does not agree with my assessment of what Obama and the Dems did during that period, he's obviously just plain flat out wrong, because the results of their actions during that time has largely been mostly a heap of impotence and fail, and the Democratic party is right now floundering as a result.

http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/bernie_sanders.htm

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
2. Bernie I hope you run. But if we have reached that point maybe the best
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 01:38 PM
Nov 2014

thing to do is let the parties crash and burn because a bone tossed here and there does no good. And build from the ashes.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
3. We are already there. Princeton Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 01:42 PM
Nov 2014


And the oligarchy is pouring our money into its propaganda machine.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
8. You mean, one of the only politicians talking about it.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 02:35 PM
Nov 2014

Thank goodness for this honesty in a sea of Third Way lying propaganda and corporate corruption.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
13. Did you notice the way he did not bend or break under tremendous pressure from the so-called
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 03:07 PM
Nov 2014

interviewers?

Bernie Sanders has integrity and moral strength. He is invulnerable when it comes to what he stands for. He is authentic. People are going to like him.

All of us little people who are told that we are not good enough, don't work hard enough, don't deserve a better life, not even Social Security or affordable health care, that we are the freeloaders, Bernie Sanders is so far one of the few people who is willing to take our side and defend our rights.

The oligarchy took over in 1968 when Nixon was elected president. It's no wonder Bernie Sanders has been talking about it for nearly all of his career.

 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
15. youtube of the interview here:
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 03:43 PM
Nov 2014

Sanders was great, strong and no nonsense. Those two interviewers may as well have had a GOP decal sewed onto their clothes.
I hope he is wrong about it being too late to fight the billionaire class. I also hope he seriously runs and that the President and his great helpers and staff give him full support.

Dustlawyer

(10,497 posts)
17. I support Bernie and hope he does run, his message needs to get out and they will try everything
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 03:51 PM
Nov 2014

to stop it from happening! He is the only politician advocating Publicly Funded Elections. That is the only way to take control over our government back from the oligarchs.
BTW, I don't watch CNN, who was the dickhead who was so disrespectful to Bernie?

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
19. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it:
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 03:56 PM
Nov 2014

If Democratic politicians had a tenth of Bernie's political courage, they would mop the floor with the Republicans.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
26. IMO, Bernie is one of the oldest, smartest and bravest politicians in the U.S.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 04:48 PM
Nov 2014

I'm going to support him as long as there is a breath of a chance. nt

Tripper11

(4,338 posts)
28. sorry, Bernie's not late....
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 05:05 PM
Nov 2014

hes been saying it for years now.
i would hope he will run but i think he's also smart enough to know that he may very well be more effective as an independent senator.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
6. Please run, Bernie, and at the very least, allow the people to try to speak through the
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 02:07 PM
Nov 2014

electoral system one more time before we are forced to break out the torches and pitchforks, take to the streets, engage in mass general strikes and boycotts, and ultimately arrest, prosecute, convict, and imprison the oligarchs for the crime of treason.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
22. Yes, we need to try that first.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 04:11 PM
Nov 2014

But only a nonviolent resistance has much chance of fully succeeding, I.e., of replacing the status quo with something that is actually better.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
11. CNN was really tough on Bernie Sanders. I have never seen such a tough interview.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 03:02 PM
Nov 2014

They were practically unfriendly, not even courteous to him.

The establishment is trying to figure out what it will take to get Bernie Sanders to make a mistake.

Ain't gonna happen guys.

Bernie Sanders is one straight man. You are not going to trip him up. He is not going to lose it, not going to say something stupid.

Just forget about trying to trip him. OK. It's better for you. It's better for your viewers. It's better for America.

Go, Bernie.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
12. If we had a responsible billionaire class, we might be OK
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 03:05 PM
Nov 2014

You know, billionaires who feel and act on their responsibility to work for the greater good and are willing to pay for the massive blessings they receive.

If you have a parasitic billionaire class, they just suck wealth out of the working class and live fat and happy and idle lives, giving nothing back to justify their existence.

But the worst is what Republican Ayn Rand fans are pushing us toward: a predatory billionaire class, who actively try to hurt the less fortunate, cutting wages and benefits of workers, cutting aid programs for the unfortunate, and lowering the standard of living of all the non-billionaires.

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
14. IMO, Bernie Sanders
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 03:28 PM
Nov 2014

is our last hope for a peaceful solution.

on edit: those "interviewers" were real kochsuckers.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
23. I think we are already there.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 04:32 PM
Nov 2014

And have been since The Little Chimp was installed in 2000. The Obama administration's hpi-deep complicity in the coverups surrounding the Great Implosion of '08, its craven failure to nationalize the TBTF banks or even prosecute the biggest thieves the world has ever seen, not to mention its acceptance and reification of the Total Surveillance State and War Forever, nails down that this is a shark we have already jumped.

Liberal Lolita

(82 posts)
24. He might bring out non-voters.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 04:35 PM
Nov 2014

We had company over a couple weeks ago when he was on Bill Maher. A couple people that I have never known to vote said they would vote for him if he ran. I'm hoping there are a lot more out there who would do the same.

Initech

(100,099 posts)
25. We've given the über rich too much power in this country since Reagan.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 04:43 PM
Nov 2014

And if we don't start reversing this, in 2016 we will reap what we've sown. I hope Bernie Sanders runs.

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
35. everytime I see bernie's name on DU, my heart jumps a little bit in my chest.
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 03:39 AM
Nov 2014

I fear he may be too late however.

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