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http://www.alternet.org/rights/155045/how_obama_became_a_civil_libertarian%27s_nightmare/When Barack Obama took office, he was the civil liberties communities great hope. Obama, a former constitutional law professor, pledged to shutter the military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and run a transparent and open government. But he has become a civil libertarians nightmare: a supposedly liberal president who instead has expanded and fortified many of the Bush administrations worst policies, lending bipartisan support for a more intrusive and authoritarian federal government.
It started with the 9/11 attacks. Within a week, Congress, including many liberals, gave the White House blanket authority to wage a war on the terrorists. A month after that, Congress passed the USA Patriot Act, authorizing many anti-terrorism measure including expanded surveillance. By mid-November, the White House ordered creation of military tribunals to try terrorists who were not U.S. citizens.
Bush quickly expanded covert operations, creating a shadow arrest, interrogation and detention system based at Guantanamo that violated international law and evaded domestic oversight. While the Supreme Court eventually ruled that detainees have some rights, the precedent that the Constitution does not restrict how a president conducts an endless war against a stateless enemy was firmly planted. In response, groups like the American Civil Liberties Union proposed reforms the newly elected president could make. What few anticipated was how he would embrace, expand and institutionalize many of Bushs war on terror excesses.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)us civil libertarians spinning a bit too..
Octafish
(55,745 posts)K&R. Must-read.
The truth hurts: We the People aren't the enemy. Unchecked power is.
One correction: It's "James Bamford" who wrote the Wired article.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)A- For our own good!
B- The fault of Holder and the DOJ Lawyers left over from the Bush Administration. Obama has no power over them at all.
C- Great, because Obama is a Good Man who would never ever abuse those powers. And of course no successor ever will, either!
D. Inevitable. Obama is just doing what anyone would.
E. What? You must want President Palin!
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Except maybe for the "Congress won't go along, and even when Democrats had majorities, it couldn't be done or we would have lost badly in 2010" excuse, which is almost always good for a giggle.
kenny blankenship
(15,689 posts)or else you wrote it down on your wrist.
A perfect score entitles you to a free pair of pom-poms, complete with hidden switchblade.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)G. Why do you hate America?
Occulus
(20,599 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Get with the program! It's you want president Rmoney now.
Sheesh!
n2doc
(47,953 posts)At least, so I've been told.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Have responded to polls that we think he is doing great! Even though I have yet to see the exact questions asked in those polls or the cross tabs, I hear it so often it must be true.
Yeah, like we all were gonna vote for the geezer/bible spice ticket. Ok, I'll give you that one.
just1voice
(1,362 posts)Bigotry gets a ton of attention but overall civil rights for all citizens oddly goes mostly ignored as if there's no connection. When people get stuck in a political paradigm rational thinking goes right out the window.
Assassinating Americans, violating civil rights at airports, torture camps still open, wiretapping everyone, removing protections for whistle-blowers: these are all things that outraged democratic people during the Bush admin but not so much now. It's a shame because as soon as some repuke gets into office people will be screaming about it but it'll be too late.
xchrom
(108,903 posts)kenny blankenship
(15,689 posts)things Democrats used to care about. Or pretended they did.
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)beats me as to why... I guess he truly believes in what he is doing. I don't.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)But they shouldn't be able to do it here. Last I checked, this is still "Democratic" Underground, not "Civil Libertarian" Underground. Fuck 'em.
xchrom
(108,903 posts)If they aren't - they should consider - seriously - joining the Republican party.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)*sarcasm*
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ProSense
(116,464 posts)strung together hyperbole.
Yeah, dig up everything every said or reported, debunked or not, and throw in the word "nightmare," and voila!
Never mind that even the ACLU sees progress in many areas.
- Ordered an end to the use of torture and cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment, withdrew
flawed legal analysis used to justify torture and applied the Army Field Manual on interrogations
government wide. - Abolished the CIA secret prisons.
- Says that waterboarding is torture and contrary to Americas traditions
contrary to our ideals.
- No reports of extraordinary rendition to torture or other cruelty under his administration.
- Failed to hold those responsible for past torture and other cruelty accountable; has blocked
alleged victims of torture from having their day in court.
Bush left a tremendous mess, and anyone who believes it's going to be easy to untangle it is kidding themselves. Look at Guantanamo.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)They know they can't outright campaign for Gary Johnson here, but they've found a workaround. Hey, if you can't go in through the front door, pry open a window, you still gain access, before the homeowner even knows what happened to him.
And I wonder if this is posted over at Civil Libertarian Underground? Oh, that's right.....
Have civil libertarians come out with an official endorsement yet?
CL's get the best of both worlds. No one's ever gonna elect one of them, because despite what Americans tell pollsters, they care about safety, and whether intended or not, CL's sometimes seem to be working at odds with that concept. That's a luxury no sitting president can afford. It's a delicate dance, but I think this administration has tried to protect our rights, while doing everything possible to keep us safe. Afterall, if there's another large scale incident on American soil, CL's won't take the fall for it, but guess who will?
TransitJohn
(6,932 posts)It's been very, very troubling all along.