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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 12:40 PM Nov 2014

US Agency Using Spy Planes to Fool Cell Phones, Capture Data

Image from Wall Street Journal:



Revealed: US Agency Using Spy Planes to Fool Cell Phones, Capture Data

Newly revealed mass surveillance program by the US government is "inexcusable," says ACLU

byJon Queally, staff writer
CommonDreams, Nov. 14, 2014

According to new reporting by the Wall Street Journal, the U.S. Marshals Service—an arm of the Department of Justice—has been using small aircraft equipped with technology that can mimic the functions of cell towers in order to capture the data contained on phones and mobile devices of people across large areas on the ground below.

Citing those familiar with the program, the Journal report (subscription) reveals how the program's use of so-called "dirtbox" technology is part of "a high-tech hunt for criminal suspects that is snagging a large number of innocent Americans" in a dragnet approach that will remind some of similar techniques known to be used by the National Security Agency and other federal agencies.

The WSJ reporting relates how the Marshals Service operate a fleet of specially-outfitted Cessna airplanes which can take off from "at least five metro-area airports," allowing the aircraft a range that covers "most of the US population."

As GeekWire explains, because the "dirtbox" devices "emulate a cell tower, they can pick up thousands or tens of thousands of signals from other citizens who aren’t being targeted by the Marshals."

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http://www.commondreams.org/news/2014/11/14/revealed-us-agency-using-spy-planes-fool-cell-phones-capture-data

Gosh. Do you ever get the feeling that maybe, in the eyes of the Police (State), We the People now are all considered "Bad Guys"?
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US Agency Using Spy Planes to Fool Cell Phones, Capture Data (Original Post) Octafish Nov 2014 OP
We are ruled by criminals. woo me with science Nov 2014 #1
Gosh. For some reason that news didn't make it onto my television screen. Octafish Nov 2014 #2
Good reason to dump the cellphone CountAllVotes Nov 2014 #3
Absolutely. GoGo In-Flight WiFi seems another good reason to put the phone down... Octafish Nov 2014 #5
Then there's all types of directed-energy weapons on some of the killer drones run by shadows, Sir. bobthedrummer Nov 2014 #4
Whiff of the Gulag, that one. Octafish Nov 2014 #7
They do that kind of thing at will everywhere now arikara Nov 2014 #9
There were reports and pictures this last war with iraq dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #11
That can't be good Old Nick Nov 2014 #6
That's the Question: Who Benefits from Secret Government Spying? Octafish Nov 2014 #12
The 4th Amendment. Off to the dustbin with you! Cooley Hurd Nov 2014 #8
Along with quite a few others.... woo me with science Nov 2014 #10
There seems to be a rush to get rid of the hard copies, I've noticed. Octafish Nov 2014 #13
All hail the BFEE!!!! greytdemocrat Nov 2014 #14
Yeah. So funny. Octafish Nov 2014 #15
The thing is, Octafish Dreamer Tatum Nov 2014 #16
Really? I've made very clear the connections between the players in the War Party. Octafish Nov 2014 #17
After searching, I admit I'm partially wrong. Dreamer Tatum Nov 2014 #18
Post removed Post removed Sep 2019 #19

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
1. We are ruled by criminals.
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 12:45 PM
Nov 2014

This is authoritarianism, not democracy, and the Constitution is "just a goddamned piece of paper."

Note that Obama selected as his director of the US Marshals Service the owner of a private prison consulting service, and private prison contracts have skyrocketed under this administration.

The NSA is forwarding information to the DEA and constructing false evidence trails to arrest Americans.

Corruption to the core.



The Obama administration is aggressively growing private prisons
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022568681

NSA, DEA fabricating evidence trails to imprison Americans using spying.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023406605



Octafish

(55,745 posts)
2. Gosh. For some reason that news didn't make it onto my television screen.
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 12:52 PM
Nov 2014

So much, uh, Kardashian to think about.

Thank you for the heads-up on those Very Important Posts, woo mee with science.

The evidence is there for those willing to see: When We the People are considered the criminals, ours no longer is a democracy.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
5. Absolutely. GoGo In-Flight WiFi seems another good reason to put the phone down...
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 01:19 PM
Nov 2014
In-Flight Wi-Fi Aiding Government Spying Efforts

PCRisk.com
Tuesday, 15 April 2014 05:36 AM

GoGo is an in-flight Wi-Fi provider that offers Internet service on more than 6,000 aircraft. Many Frequent Flyer programs offer customers free or discounted service via the GoGo service and other passengers can pay a nominal fee for access on flights throughout the country. Recently, documents have come to light that prove GoGo not only complies with federal law, but actually goes well beyond the requirements set forth by the federal government to give law enforcement even more information than previously thought. Much of this information was discovered by Christopher Soghoian of the American Civil Liberty Union in recent Federal Communications Commission filings about the company.

In a letter dated July, 20 2012, a GoGo lawyer stated that GoGo has worked closely with law enforcement to incorporate additional capabilities to accommodate law enforcement interests. These “additional capabilities” go well beyond the compliance required by the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA). In a separate publication, Aircell (a GoGo subsidiary) boasted that the company is “can give law enforcement any information they need in real time.” Not only is GoGo assisting government agencies above what is required by law, but they seem to be bragging about their extra cooperation.

Unfortunately, the customers paying for the service are the ones who are being punished as their information is being collected and monitored during business and leisure flights alike.

While GoGo has since tried to hide the claims made to the FCC, there is able evidence to suggest that Web browsing activities during a flight are closely monitored by GoGo and ultimately, the US government as well. Specifically, statements made by the Director of Business Development at Aircell suggest a “Super CALEA” arrangement with the FBI.

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http://www.pcrisk.com/internet-threat-news/7764-in-flight-wi-fi-aiding-government-spying-efforts

Thanks for the kick and reminder, CountAllVotes! My smart phone already has made me dumber. Thanks to all the new spy technology, everybody who didn't already know it now does.
 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
4. Then there's all types of directed-energy weapons on some of the killer drones run by shadows, Sir.
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 01:18 PM
Nov 2014

Israel Unleashes Death Ray on Gaza (8-11-14 Veteran's today article by Gordon Duff & New Eastern Outlook, Moscow)
Defunct Boeing laser Project"Mysteriously Reappears"
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08/11/israel-unleashes-death-ray-on-gaza

K&R

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
7. Whiff of the Gulag, that one.
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 01:23 PM
Nov 2014

Back in Glorious Cold War, Moscow embassy was bombarded by directed microwave radiation 24/7/366 (is extra day for Leap Year):



Microwaving U.S. Embassy in Moscow

Association for Diplomatic Studies and Training

U.S. relations with Moscow through the decades have been problematic at best while the embassy itself has been the subject of spy scandals, eavesdropping and other Cold War intrigue. One of the strangest episodes was revealed in the 1970s, when the U.S. confirmed that the USSR had been beaming microwaves at the embassy for the past 15 years. One concern was that the Soviets were trying to inflict physical harm on the Americans working there. Famed columnist Jack Anderson wrote that a CIA file named “Operation Pandora” described the Soviets’ attempt to “brainwash” Americans. The level of microwaves was actually lower than what was considered safe in the U.S. at the time; another explanation is that the USSR was apparently trying to jam electronic monitoring devices located at the embassy. William Andreas Brown discusses the widespread concern among Americans working at the embassy at the time and their anger at the State Department for its lack of transparency on the issue. He was interviewed by Charles Stuart Kennedy beginning in November 1998. Read also about James Schumaker’s experience.

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http://adst.org/2013/09/microwaving-embassy-moscow/



Remarkable times, these, Sir. And we've learned an awful lot since then.

arikara

(5,562 posts)
9. They do that kind of thing at will everywhere now
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 01:57 PM
Nov 2014

Cell phone towers proliferate like dandelions where people live and work. I believe cell phones, at least in this form will be the cigarettes of the 21st century, they are both addictive and harmful.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
11. There were reports and pictures this last war with iraq
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 07:22 PM
Nov 2014

pointing to some strange weapon that had been used, that cooked people alive in their cars, melted the cars windshield gaskets,
made the car door handles disappear, and stripped the paint off the cars, so they looked sort of burned out.
I saw a few of those photos on line back them.
Did not see anything that looked like that until there were pics of the mysterious burned out cars that were in a parking lot near the collapsed towers on 9-11.


Octafish

(55,745 posts)
12. That's the Question: Who Benefits from Secret Government Spying?
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 12:14 AM
Nov 2014

Hint: It isn't Joe Sixpack.



Behind the Curtain: Booz Allen Hamilton and its Owner, The Carlyle Group

Written by Bob Adelmann
The New American; June 13, 2013

According to writers Thomas Heath and Marjorie Censer at the Washington Post, The Carlyle Group and its errant child, Booz Allen Hamilton (BAH), have a public relations problem, thanks to NSA leaker and former BAH employee Edward Snowden. By the time top management at BAH learned that one of their top level agents had gone rogue, and terminated his employment, it was too late.

For years Carlyle had, according to the Post, “nurtured a reputation as a financially sophisticated asset manager that buys and sells everything from railroads to oil refineries”; but now the light from the Snowden revelations has revealed nothing more than two companies, parent and child, “bound by the thread of turning government secrets into profits.”

And have they ever. When The Carlyle Group bought BAH back in 2008, it was totally dependent upon government contracts in the fields of information technology (IT) and systems engineering for its bread and butter. But there wasn't much butter: After two years the company’s gross revenues were $5.1 billion but net profits were a minuscule $25 million, close to a rounding error on the company’s financial statement. In 2012, however, BAH grossed $5.8 billion and showed earnings of $219 million, nearly a nine-fold increase in net revenues and a nice gain in value for Carlyle.

Unwittingly, the Post authors exposed the real reason for the jump in profitability: close ties and interconnected relationships between top people at Carlyle and BAH, and the agencies with which they are working. The authors quoted George Price, an equity analyst at BB&T Capital: "[Booz Allen has] got a great brand, they've focused over time on hiring top people, including bringing on people who have a lot of senior government experience."

CONTINUED w Links n Privatized INTEL...

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/15696-behind-the-curtain-booz-allen-hamilton-and-its-owner-the-carlyle-group

In a democracy -- a republic built on equal justice for all -- would see to it that traitors, warmongers and banksters would be in jail instead of printing money through inside information.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
10. Along with quite a few others....
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 04:14 PM
Nov 2014

Corporatist Democrats and Republicans are not just another flavor of politician within a functioning democracy. They are dismantling the very foundations of our representative system and are a menace to human beings and democracy itself.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
13. There seems to be a rush to get rid of the hard copies, I've noticed.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 12:31 AM
Nov 2014

Changing the online database is a snap, it's updating the print-outs that were a problem in both 1984 and Brazil. So, they got a Constitutional work-around called FISA So what was un-Constitutional now is classified Too-Secret for a Trial on grounds of national security:





The G.O.P.’s Surveillance Judiciary

Is it possible to simply disband the partisan FISA court?

By Scott Horton
Harper's, July 29, 2013

In Friday’s New York Times, Charlie Savage takes a closer look at the judges hand-picked by John Roberts for the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court.

Ten of the court’s 11 judges — all assigned by Chief Justice Roberts — were appointed to the bench by Republican presidents; six once worked for the federal government. Since the chief justice began making assignments in 2005, 86 percent of his choices have been Republican appointees, and 50 percent have been former executive branch officials.

Not surprisingly, the Times review shows that Roberts has fashioned a court in his own image: movement conservative, Republican, largely consisting of persons who previously worked in the government. In sum, Roberts has picked a court that can be relied upon to quickly approve any government request for surveillance, through whatever instruments and according to whatever rules the government wishes.

The two chief justices who preceded Roberts, William H. Rehnquist and Warren E. Burger, were also conservative Republicans, and like Roberts they also ensured that a majority of the FISA court’s judges were conservative Republicans. However, neither of his predecessors was nearly so obsessive about it as Roberts — two-thirds of their selections were Republicans, while for Roberts, all but one have been Republican.

SNIP...

The special judicial body put in place by FISA to check government surveillance activities has been transformed by John Roberts into a cheerleader for such programs. This judicial adulteration leaves NSA critics in Congress with little alternative but to push for laws establishing further limits on NSA activities — though even if they manage to pass such a law, they must be wary of the demonstrated ability of the Justice Department, the NSA, and the FISA court to find secret “understandings” of statutes that justify unforeseen forms of overreach.

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http://harpers.org/blog/2013/07/the-gops-surveillance-judiciary/



Going from the little turd from Crawford who lied America into an illegal, immoral, unnecessary and disastrouis wars is free to run around hawking books and shower paintings, it's pretty clear who gets "access" to "Just-Us."

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
15. Yeah. So funny.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 01:24 PM
Nov 2014

Bartcop coined the term "Bush Family Evil Empire" to denote the 60-year pre-eminence of one family in the formation of the political philosophy in the United States, that of the War Party. And, yes, personally, I have tried to chronicle their influence on the ascension of the national security state. At least three generations have held high national office, while also making big money off war and looting the public Treasury. The last president of the United States, a man who wasn't elected fair and square by any stretch of the imagination, actually said: "Money trumps peace" at a press conference. For some reason, not a single "journalist" had the guts to ask him what he meant by that. Since then, we've learned war is so profitable those with access to government secrets are at a distinct advantage over others.

Even if it's undemocratic, isn't that hilarious, greytdemocrat?

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
16. The thing is, Octafish
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 01:46 PM
Nov 2014

is that this is all happening NOW, while no one named Bush is in power or has been since
January 2009. Yet that seems to have only strengthened your resolve to put every
documented case of any American wrongdoing, or wrongdoing done to Americans, on
the Bush doorstep. Plenty belongs there, certainly an outsized share.

I notice that you are conspicuously silent about the complicity of the current administration
in any of this. One could reasonably infer from your posts that there are two surnames
in the history of American politics: Kennedy, and Bush. One could also reasonably infer
that in your view, one is without any fault, and the other is evil in its incipience. That
is either childish, or is rooted in a script-written view of history.

So I don't blame anyone for gently poking at you.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
17. Really? I've made very clear the connections between the players in the War Party.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 02:12 PM
Nov 2014

For instance: Know your BFEE: CARLYLE Group 'bound by the thread of turning government secrets into profits'





Behind the Curtain: Booz Allen Hamilton and its Owner, The Carlyle Group

Written by Bob Adelmann
The New American; June 13, 2013

According to writers Thomas Heath and Marjorie Censer at the Washington Post, The Carlyle Group and its errant child, Booz Allen Hamilton (BAH), have a public relations problem, thanks to NSA leaker and former BAH employee Edward Snowden. By the time top management at BAH learned that one of their top level agents had gone rogue, and terminated his employment, it was too late.

For years Carlyle had, according to the Post, “nurtured a reputation as a financially sophisticated asset manager that buys and sells everything from railroads to oil refineries”; but now the light from the Snowden revelations has revealed nothing more than two companies, parent and child, “bound by the thread of turning government secrets into profits.”

And have they ever. When The Carlyle Group bought BAH back in 2008, it was totally dependent upon government contracts in the fields of information technology (IT) and systems engineering for its bread and butter. But there wasn't much butter: After two years the company’s gross revenues were $5.1 billion but net profits were a minuscule $25 million, close to a rounding error on the company’s financial statement. In 2012, however, BAH grossed $5.8 billion and showed earnings of $219 million, nearly a nine-fold increase in net revenues and a nice gain in value for Carlyle.

Unwittingly, the Post authors exposed the real reason for the jump in profitability: close ties and interconnected relationships between top people at Carlyle and BAH, and the agencies with which they are working. The authors quoted George Price, an equity analyst at BB&T Capital: "[Booz Allen has] got a great brand, they've focused over time on hiring top people, including bringing on people who have a lot of senior government experience."

CONTINUED w Links n Privatized INTEL...

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/15696-behind-the-curtain-booz-allen-hamilton-and-its-owner-the-carlyle-group

Wouldn't it be great to live in a democracy, a republic built on equal justice for all? That way, traitors, warmongers and banksters would be in jail instead of printing money.



So, saying I don't pay attention to what's happened since 2009 serves either as a way to either discredit me or a way to provoke me into getting banned from DU won't work. Why? I try to always write the truth. When I don't, I apologize and admit I'm wrong.

For proof, I have several hundred examples more of where the War Party and their Banksters have profited over the last six years, many in my DU2 and DU3 journals.

What do you do when you're wrong, Dreamer Tatum?

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
18. After searching, I admit I'm partially wrong.
Sat Nov 15, 2014, 02:25 PM
Nov 2014

But on the other hand, in light of this new invasion of privacy supported by the current elected administration,
you are still more comfortable pointing to the Carlyle Group.

I admit, you've called BS on the current admin, however. No need to drown me in blue ink.

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