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snooper2

(30,151 posts)
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 10:10 AM Nov 2014

Does anybody here know where Cushing Oklahoma is?

Well, if you are talking about Keystone pipleline you should. For some reason I don't think everyone knows that the bulk of the pipeline is already complete. With the hundreds of pipeline builds under construction I still don't know why everyone is bitching about this one. Only thing I can figure is the catchy name

Just needs the small section built where it is just, OK, then down through Texas-


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Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
1. Since Keystone crosses an international border it needs congressional approval
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 10:16 AM
Nov 2014

Other pipelines just need approval from the states they pass through which is why Keystone makes the national news and other pipelines dont.

MerryBlooms

(11,770 posts)
3. Cushing section is done. It's the Montana-Nebraska-S Dakota section that is the big fight.
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 10:27 AM
Nov 2014
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Pipeline

Phase 3a (done)

The Cushing MarketLink pipeline phase started at Cushing, Oklahoma, where American-produced oil is added to the pipeline, then runs south 435 miles (700 km) to a delivery point near terminals in Nederland, Texas, to serve the Port Arthur, Texas, marketplace.[1] Keystone started pumping oil through this section on January 21, 2014.[18] Oil producers in the U.S. pushed for this phase so the glut of oil can be distributed out of the large oil tank farms and distribution center in Cushing.

Phase 3b (construction)

The Houston Lateral pipeline phase is approximate 47 miles (76 km) pipeline to transport crude oil from the pipeline in Liberty County, Texas to the Houston area.[1][19] This phase is currently under construction and scheduled to go online in 2015.

Phase 4 (proposed)

The proposed Keystone XL pipeline starts from the same area in Alberta, Canada, as the Phase 1 pipeline.[11] The Canadian section would consist of 526 kilometres (327 mi) of new pipeline.[20] It would enter the United States at Morgan, Montana, and travel through Baker, Montana, where American-produced oil would be added to the pipeline, then it would travel through South Dakota and Nebraska, where it would join the existing Keystone pipelines at Steele City, Nebraska.[1] This phase has generated the greatest controversy because of its routing over the top of the Ogallala Aquifer in Nebraska.[21][22][23]

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
7. I read that the Aquifer
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 11:05 AM
Nov 2014

Provides drinking water to more than 80% of the people in the region. And that's area of more than 2 Million people.


How anyone could think this is a good idea is beyond me. It's too much risk to human beings.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
4. No doubt it is indeed, the only thing you are able to infer.
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 10:30 AM
Nov 2014

"Only thing I can figure is the catchy name..."

No doubt it is indeed, the only thing you are able to infer.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
5. Because it is more selling out the environment for political gain.
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 10:33 AM
Nov 2014

Go ahead, roll your fucking eyes because you don't think it's "important".

It is a sell-out. And I'm so sick of the Democrats selling out their principles foe financial gain.

And it is all based on LIES. That oil from the tar sands is among the dirtiest there is. Extracting it has an enormous cost in Canada. Nobody talks about that. Research it before you dismiss it by rolling your eyes.

Also, all of that oil will go on the world market. It is not to be used here for energy independence. It will only amount to a handful of jobs when it is completed AND the potential environmental costs are huge.

Plus, the Koch brothers have an enormous stake in it. Just one more reason to deny it. I'd love handing those fuckers a loss, just for once. They have bought our entire government.

Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)
6. LIES. That says it all right there.
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 10:43 AM
Nov 2014

The potential risk to the environment alone should be grounds for not completing it.

MerryBlooms

(11,770 posts)
11. It costs like $80 a barrel to produce
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 11:55 AM
Nov 2014

and oil is going for what, $77ish a barrel right now? So it's not nearly as appealing for investors today as it was a while back.

I suspect though, there is a 'disaster' on the horizon that will make this project the ultra awesome of all awesomedum!

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
9. Why the hell not build a refinery up there? then ship the refined product to
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 11:17 AM
Nov 2014

a canadian port?

Why the hell do they have to drag it along across the entire country, skipping refineries in Joliet and Indiana?

This whole plan stinks, and I cannot see any sense to it at all.

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