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Over the last three decades, leftwing parties in the English-speaking world have taken on much of the rights antidemocratic programme and lost their souls
theguardian.com, Friday 14 November 2014 03.45 GMT
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Despite all this, the right are enjoying a new heyday that puts the Thatcher and Reagan years in the shade. Australia is ruled by the most reactionary national government in its history. Stephen Harper, having first transformed Canadian conservatism into a simulacrum of the US Republican party, is now remodelling the country itself as a petro-state. In New Zealand, a scandal implicating prime minister John Keys staff in the smearing of political rivals did not prevent his National party government being returned in September. In the UK an austerity-mad Tory-led coalition government is drifting further right, as it (and Labour) dance to a tune set by the golf club bigots in Ukip. In the US, Republicans who have spent the last four years obstructing Obamas painfully modest agenda are now making conciliatory and cooperative noises because they are effectively the party of government, and are seeking to clear the way for their own agenda.
Each country has its own internal political dynamics. In each case the right has come to power in different ways. But these groupings share a lot of ideological common ground. This is no accident multinational corporate lobbying, a global network of thinktanks, and the planetary echo chamber afforded by organisations like Rupert Murdochs News Corporation keeps right wing ideas circulating and resonating throughout the English speaking world.
Anglosphere conservatives want to erode whatever remains of their respective welfare states, with a particular emphasis on wrecking social security, education and public health. They have profited by scapegoating immigrants or refugees, and stoking paranoia about border security. More so than in previous eras of rightwing ascendancy, they are joined at the hip to the carbon merchants whose products are worsening the climate disaster already under way. While Abbott waxes lyrical about the civilising properties of coal, Harper redesigns Canadas foreign policy around getting the products of its dirty oil sands industry to market. In the US, the Koch brothers and other carbon moguls bankroll the Republican party. If New Zealand and UK conservatives are less strident on this topic, its because their carbon industries are nonexistent or were deliberately destroyed. Right now, theyre all committed to the negotiation of a Trans -Pacific Partnership that economist Joseph Stiglitz says benefits the wealthiest sliver of the American and global elite at the expense of everyone else.
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Having spent the last three decades chasing conservatives rightwards in pursuit of a mythical centre, it may be that politicians are as confused as voters are. Between them the social democratic governements of Bob Hawke and Paul Keating, Bill Clinton and Tony Blair redefined progressive policy, seeking to effect social change through market-based, capital-friendly mechanisms. Capital showed precious little gratitude to them, and none to their successors. But the habit of trying to please everyone, including the vested interests who actually need to be confronted in order to bring about lasting change, dies hard.
The full article that deserves to be read in its entirety, and shared widely: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/14/the-right-has-won-control-of-the-english-speaking-world-thanks-to-the-weakness-of-the-left
silverweb
(16,402 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)Will we applaud when another President Clinton proudly signs the bill that ends Medicare as we know it? Or SS? Both at once?
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)OMG....some people believe the most idiotic things...
pangaia
(24,324 posts)I would not be surprised in the least.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)some people will believe anyfuckingthing.
your hatred is showing by the way...
pangaia
(24,324 posts)It's 8:30 in the morning. Or, as you might say, "It's 8 fucking thirty in the morning."
I'm just having my coffee. And some vanilla somebody tells me my 'hatred is showing."
My hatred of.. what? Coffee?
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)You do not know anything about me.
Absolutely nothing.
What's with you anyway?
I expressed an opinion different from yours.
Live with it.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)might want to get that checked out...
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Wow. Do you live your entire life like this?
Whew.. Must be exhausting..
Hope you feel better some day...
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)You tend to get nasty with anyone who has an opinion other than your exalted one.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)In every thread you participate in.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)I give em hell....and they call it nasty!
closeupready
(29,503 posts)so I think it is just you.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)beerandjesus
(1,301 posts)Funny how we're supposed to take the President at his word when he's talking about net neutrality, but we're not supposed to take him at his word when he's talking about TPP or "reforming" Social Security....
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Thanks for the warning.
As for net neut and TPP..and SS...exactly right..
DocMac
(1,628 posts)I saw the whole thing.
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)to ignore. Now you know at least one. Your post that caused the apparent outrage is right on. Hillary will be Obama on steroids. She will think nothing of cutting entitlements. Watch her closely. Unfortunately, I believe with the low info voter in this country, she may well get in unless we can come up with a viable candidate who can win. And as great as B. Sanders is, he is not the one. As an Indy he would be a spoiler. As a Dem, the same, but with a higher vote count. We need a real progressive who understands what progressive means.
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)Elizabeth Warren?
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)was after her refusal to answer the reporters questions about what she thought about Democrats running away from Obama in the election. I am keeping her on the team, though, as a relief pitcher.
SorellaLaBefana
(144 posts)As the post points out, the Democratic Party has now eagerly embraced the world-view of the Republicans that absolute conformity is required.
By criticizing president Obama, you run a real risk of being silenced on the DU.
I think that one of the major reasons for our crushing losses in the mid-terms is that few Democrats were willing to run on progressive principles and ended up proving the past observation that the voters will generally prefer a Republican over a Republican-light.
If there can be no open and candid discussion of the strengths, weaknesses and records of our current or future Democratic office-holders, then we might as well be openly repressive and controlling Republicans.
Toute nation a le gouvernement qu'elle mérite: Each nation has the government that it deserves. Joseph-Marie, comte de Maistre.
Admittedly, he did not have favourable views of democracy, but he was a keen observer of the events of his time.
The current swing of the Democratic Party to the Right (absurdly as the nation's population as a whole swings to the Left) to attempt to hold onto political power by renouncing the values of liberalism and embracing those of totalitarianism is quite disheartening.
If Hillary Clinton is the candidate, I think there is a better-than-even chance that she will win.
However, if she does win, I am not convinced that those of us who embrace an open and democratic Republic - Old-Style Lefty Democrats - will win, but rather that the nation will continue its descent into a corporatist surveillance society.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)aren't you projecting?
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Absolutely nothing? When vouchers are already part of the GOP budget plan? Are vouchers okay?
BlindTiresias
(1,563 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)It follows if a Dem Pres can do such things that nothing is "sacred" for Dems....
treestar
(82,383 posts)They are more desperate and rabid because they know in the long run they are losing.
Cosmocat
(14,566 posts)I don't think people get the gravity of the situation we are facing right now, here in the United States in particular.
I have been politically aware since the early 90s, and politically active since Bush II got elected.
During the last 15 years, people have WANTED to believe, "THE REPUBLICANS ARE IN THEIR LAST THROES!"
But, the simple reality is that they are in a BETTER position now than in the early 90s when they took the turn to being deranged lunatics.
As of the first Tuesday of this month, they have effectively taken near complete institutional control of this country.
They effectively control the Supreme Court, and will for decades at least.
The have a strong majority in the House of Representatives and will unless we get a major wave election in two years, which isn't looking like any kind of possibility.
They have control of the senate, and while they face a tougher go there in 16, they still have control and the democrats have to TAKE it back.
They control more state houses and senates and governorships.
They have extraordinarily locked in gerrymandering in key states such a VA, PA, and Michigan that gives them more congressional seats than they should have.
They have the media 100 percent in their corner.
The people of this country are fat (figuratively) and distracted, and very much prone to eagerly swallowing whatever bullshit they advance.
The democratic party is at an all time modern low - they have effectively killed the labor movement, which provided the energy and toughness to the democratic party. The democratic party is heartless and directionless.
But, they are losing?
Seriously?
The BEST case scenario is that some presidential candidate provides energy to the democratic party, keeps the oval office out of their deranged hand and brings enough senators along with him/her to get the senate back. But, sorry, that will be the high water mark and they will do what they did to Clinton and Obama - act like jackasses and the country will give them even MORE power.
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)was about to disappear, and I believe if the Democrats has done the right things they could have actually made it disappear. But now it looks like the Democrat Party may disappear. It's because of one thing mainly, but I don't have the nuggets to suggest what this is here. It's a question I ask people daily. I like your last paragraph but I now don't know who that is. After Warren's refusal to answer the question "What did she think about Democrats running away from Obama in the election?" I have reduced her as the best candidate. I may change back, though. We cannot let Hillary Clinton get in or we may as well put an elephant on the American Flag.
Cosmocat
(14,566 posts)Warren COULD possible be the candidate with enough energy and the right strength and constitution to fight for the right things, but even at that, same thing will happen as happened with BHO - she will be out there all on her own, democrats cowering in a corner while the republican eviscerate her with an endless stream of contrived bullshit. Hell, that is what they did to Bill Clinton, too.
They are reupping with Reid in the senate, and likely Pelosi in the House. Who is even in charge at the DNC? There is a NEVER ENDING stream of energetic and aggressive republicans at every level charging forward. We can't name a half dozen democrats who have the fire and drive that these asshole republicans have.
The media will continue to GLEEFULLY advance republican bullshit and the people of this country will continue to gobble up their bullshit.
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)something. We need a John Wayne, but all we have is Peter Rabbits.
appalachiablue
(41,146 posts)clearly driven by money and power is menacing. They're closing in around the trough. Dems. have the advantage in intellect but obviously lack numbers, visibility (and funds) except for the fire and passion of Warren, Grayson, Dean and Sanders the Independent. Jan. S. is good like effective Sherrod B. Patrick Leahy had the energy and roar like Ted K. But Warren and Sanders are what we've got for now and I'm grateful. Their age is irrelevant to me. Yesterday's sudden Senate selection of Warren for leader of a liberal wing is curious. "The Useful Liberal', or what Sister Simone of Nuns on the Bus is to the establishment? I think not.
Ben Jealous who just left NAACP had brains and fire, too bad he's not in that position now or in politics. The Rahm's and Corey B.'s typify the corp. mainstream Dems. but that may be changing. Complete domination of M$M by the corp. right is an enormous problem. What's the solution? Not much, and I'm tired of stating how many open minded Americans are unaware of this, don't know to spend hours online, if they can afford internet service, searching for independent news sites. I never knew of DU until I heard Thom H. mention it a few years ago. Didn't know about HIM until we picked up the Big Pic. program on RT accidentally somehow after cancelling our worthless cable provider 5 years ago. This thread has been informative.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)Who's on the task force?
The same people who have been fucking it up from the get go. Bill Nelson and company.
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Very good analysis of the current situation.
The bad news is that the Democrats appear to have ZERO ideas for turning things around--except of course to continue to move farther to the right. And that has worked so well for us.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)Because this rightwing ideology is fueled by a handful of uber rich capitalists. Capitalism allows for a huge concentration of wealth in the hands of just a lucky few. Those few have used their wealth to buy up our political system. Like kings in a fuedal economy, they rule with cruel and stingy results. Bring democracy to our economic system and the rightwing will shrivel up.
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)those with power/influence and money will always be able to control elections and the people with...
power/influence and money.
It's going to take a movement of the people. The only question is whether we can pull off a
velvet revolution here.
pampango
(24,692 posts)by scapegoating immigrants or refugees, and stoking paranoia about border security.
In the UK, you could be forgiven for thinking from media coverage that immigration is the uppermost priority for voters. In fact, its increasing funding to the NHS, which the Tories would like to eviscerate even more thoroughly than they have. In all of these countries, polling shows that the decline of public services, privatisation, and economic insecurity are perennial concerns for large swathes of their respective electorates.
The main reason the right finds itself in this position is not their own strength, or the broad acceptance of their ideas, but the weakness of mainstream leftwing parties. Partly this is down to a lack of effective political leadership. While Republicans ran against the president in the US midterms, so, often enough, did his Democrat colleagues. So desperate were they to avoid any association with him that some were led to refuse to admit that they had ever voted for him. Not only were candidates distancing themselves from what Jeb Lund called Obamas one major legislative achievement, the Affordable Care Act ..."
Also, income equality in Canada, the UK and Australia, while much better than in the US, is now where near what it is in the non-English speaking countries of Europe.
but, part of their "strength" has been relentlessly attacking the left wing parties.
That is part of their plan, and what they do.
Also, it is important to note, this also reveals something about the state of the people in a country.
There is a particular level of comfort and affluence that allows for a broad apathy for people to not pay attention or engage, as well swallow the bullshit they put out.
T_i_B
(14,738 posts)Kicking immigrants is something that plays well with a lot of people. At the 2010 election I attended an election hustings where that was the number one issue anybody wanted to raise.
Even though I live in a very white area and the audience was mostly elderly folk who have no contact with immigrants in real life.
LeftishBrit
(41,208 posts)In the UK at least, immigrant-bashing seems to be MOST popular with people who live in areas with little contact with immigrants. And, thanks to the tabloid press, most people over-estimate the number of immigrants in the UK by quite a lot. In one recent study, people on average estimated the percentage of the population in the UK that was born abroad as 24%: nearly twice the actual number (13%). The estimates of the proportion of people here who are Muslims were even more inflated (21% vs actual figure of about 5%).
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Corporate money floods both sides of the aisle.
That's what the Princeton study meant by "oligarchy."
K&R though.
2banon
(7,321 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)where what remains of government is meta law enforcement over what remains of the nation-state structure. This does not surprise me as the Left or any of the more liberal parties no longer constitute opposition to the corporate state. It's not that the increasingly transnational Right is so popular, but they have become the biggest kid on the block by default.
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)The left isn't lacking in good candidates or good ideas. What the left lacks is the organization and political wherewithal to win.
The left needs their version of Al From. Sorry, just a fact.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)appalachiablue
(41,146 posts)maddiemom
(5,106 posts)these days. Howard Dean, on the other hand....
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)As Matt Stoller said, "This is a country governed at a local and legislative level by deep conservatives. But if you expect changes in philosophy and behavior due to these (midterm) losses, youre going to have to do what Al From did. Which is, organize. And dont just organize to put Democrats in power, organize around ideas the way that Al From did. Froms ideas were incredibly consequential, and they are today the basis for how the West is run."
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)As if people are going to fall in line with the left if they pout enough.
YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)Who would rather divide DU and whine and complain about why the elected members of the Democratic Party are not all like the Independent Democratic Socialist from Vermont, or why President Obama is not what THEY want him to be (projecting their own personalized out-of-touch version of the No True Scotsm..er, Liberal Democrat onto the President of the United States, who represents 300+ million people).
Note that I put "leftists" in quotes. Might as well call them professional leftists. Emphasis on the "professional." (Alternately, there are more than a few right-wing trolls here posing as concerned "progressives" .
ladjf
(17,320 posts)education and even IQ.
I don't know about the rest of the English speaking World, but I do know that the rank and file U.S. voters are stunningly ignorant and dumb. In America, the right wingers have been battling for 50 years to wipe out public education and they have nearly succeeded. As to the drop in IQ, I have no factual answer as to the cause.
Democracy CAN NOT survive the combination of ignorance and stupidity.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)along with other problems. And it's not that Dems are weak, it's just that the R's (standing for the Rich) have more than we do. Our contributions of $30 and $50 are nothing compared to the Koch's million$ in contributions and they have plenty more where that came from. They can dole out $ for paid campaign workers while ours are few and far between, so we depend on volunteers, most of whom work all day at other jobs and can only put in so much time and effort at night and on wkends. It's a very bad situation.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)There are a lot of reasons for that. One is that the success of leftist policies created a large, fat and happy middle class, which once they got theirs, became increasingly receptive to right wing propaganda.
The right promises to protect the middle class (and the middle class wannabes) from the "takers". The usual targets are welfare, unions, immigrants, big government and "socialists." The middle class, for the most part, buys this nonsense--in spite of all evidence that it is bullshit.
The right has won their propaganda war. The left has never built the infrastructure to counter this.
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)sees Pres. Obama as representing poorer, struggling (read "Black" folks, because if you haven't noticed, he's Black) who in their cynicism the right has dubbed the "takers."
So, taking the long view - when and how do we suppose the pendulum will swing back?
Where and how does this end, in other words?
Spot on ...
Castigating the labor movement was the kill shot, took what fire and fight the democratic party had.
But, the generally high level of affluence is the biggest issue.
I don't get it, I just don't get how people can't see the brazen and blatant level of bullshit.
But, they gobble it up.
snot
(10,530 posts)and now we're letting them gain control of education and the internet.
The brainwashing device is almost fully in place.
It's sufficed in North Korea for a very long time, now.
2banon
(7,321 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Not even possible when money trumps peace.
2banon
(7,321 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)They are the first to strike and therefore start from a position of advantage. Democrats depend more on the force of their ideas, not battle tactics. Maybe that should change but I hardly see it as the Democratic Party's fault that the people aren't listening to them.
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2banon
(7,321 posts)And given the level of blind ignorance of functionaries here in the U.S. put together with wanton duplicity of lawmakers it's challenging to maintain any level of optimism for the near future in turning this around.
nilesobek
(1,423 posts)The GOP made the midterms about Obama and doing it loudly. All we had to do to win was respond in kind, by making every election a referendum on GWB! We should be screaming from the mountaintops about Bush until 2050 or later. We just aren't aggressive enough.
LeftishBrit
(41,208 posts)Last edited Fri Nov 14, 2014, 05:32 PM - Edit history (1)
I am of course most familiar with the situation in the UK. Blair et al REALLY moved the Labour Party to the Right. And unfortunately the media and post-Thatcher political leaders have promoted a culture where people tend to take for granted that:
(1) The private sector is always superior to the public sector (in fact, I have found many private sector organizations more incompetent than even indifferent public services)
(2) There are a massive number of lazy people falsely claiming benefits (in fact, benefit fraud is rare, and when it does occur, most commonly consists of people continuing to claim the 'dole' even after they have a job, rather than making false excuse to be 'workshy'. And the majority of benefit claimants of working age are not unemployed, but low-paid workers)
(3) An efficient organization is one that employs as few people as possible (in fact, although extreme overmanning could be a problem, most organizations nowadays are understaffed, and this may save some money, but leads to poor, inefficient and in some cases dangerous performance from the clients' point of view - as well as contributing to the problem of unemployment and underemployment)
(4) The economic crisis of 2008 was the fault of Labour overspending (how could that explain a global problem?!)
(5) The postwar consensus on the need for something near to full employment; the important role of industry as opposed to just the financial sector; and the importance of public services has been proved wrong; and Thatcher's 'reforms' were necessary (even accepted by many Labour supporters. But one politician on his retirement DID say frankly that Keynesianism was a good thing, and that Thatchers' assault on industry devastated large parts of the country. This was our longest-serving Tory MP Tapsell, who is old enough to remember the times before Thatcher. Unfortunately, many on the supposed left have forgotten this.)
Turborama
(22,109 posts)(A tried and tested smokescreen that manipulates people into fearing the 'other' to deflect attention from the real culprits)