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CatWoman

(79,302 posts)
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 09:11 PM Apr 2012

REO Speedwagon and STYX - It is time to dump American Embarrassment Ted Nugent from the Tour!

Why This Is Important

I'm a proven patriot that was hunting down Communists when I was 18 and 19 - when Nugent was starting his career as a Chicken-Hawk Draft Dodger!

While Nugent was practicing killing bunny rabbits and varmits - I was teaching the South Vietnamese how to kill enemy Communist T-54 Tanks!

While Nugent was peeing his pants - I was protecting the people and the peace, at great risk to my life with REAL AMERICAN MEN!

While Nugent was playing with ponies - I was in the U. S. Cavalry riding out of the sky into a destiny with death!

I fought for the honor of my country and regardless of who sits in the oval office respect for that office. The President of the United States of America deserves respect regardless of your political affiliation.

I am asking the true patriots in our country to stand with me and demand that REO Speedwagon and Styx drop Ted Nugent from their concert series.

Ted has gone nuts and needs to come in off the road to get in touch with what really matters. Threatening our President has gone too far!

http://www.change.org/petitions/reo-speedwagon-and-styx-it-is-time-to-dump-american-embarrassment-ted-nugent-from-the-tour

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REO Speedwagon and STYX - It is time to dump American Embarrassment Ted Nugent from the Tour! (Original Post) CatWoman Apr 2012 OP
K&R dmr Apr 2012 #1
Yep. NYC_SKP Apr 2012 #2
... CatWoman Apr 2012 #15
signed the petition! lunasun Apr 2012 #3
why didn't the author sign the petition? Who wrote it? nt LaydeeBug Apr 2012 #4
did you click on the link? CatWoman Apr 2012 #16
Nugent now says that he feels like a 'black jew at a nazi-klan meeting' roguevalley Apr 2012 #27
Another pathetic right-wing "play the victim" analogy Zambero Apr 2012 #46
I'll sign one to cancel the entire tour. MrSlayer Apr 2012 #5
You, sir, OBVIOUSLY haven't heard "Plexiglass Toilet", Styx's undisputed masterpiece. saras Apr 2012 #8
I've always loved STyx CatWoman Apr 2012 #19
I am so old...... Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2012 #6
I saw Journey and Heart as opening acts for Ted Nugent. Kaleva Apr 2012 #10
By the time I saw my first concert, in elementary with my aunt (KISS, 1998), Nugent opened... Drunken Irishman Apr 2012 #26
Skid Row! Jennicut Apr 2012 #34
They Played My High School Prom... KharmaTrain Apr 2012 #32
First Time I Saw Them. . . ProfessorGAC Apr 2012 #49
K&R otohara Apr 2012 #7
Bragging about killing Commies. That's America to me! RufusTFirefly Apr 2012 #9
hypocrisy meanit Apr 2012 #13
Exactly. I don't support the "imperial stuff" of the petition, but NYC Liberal Apr 2012 #28
First thought Catwoman was a commie killing, tank blowing up, death defying vet... Kaleva Apr 2012 #11
Catwoman was a commie killing, tank blowing up, death defying vet... CatWoman Apr 2012 #17
When REO Speedwagon and Styx want to dump you... Dr. Strange Apr 2012 #12
I thought that tour was The Nuge's punishment. sofa king Apr 2012 #52
K and R Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #14
Proudly Signed!! Ruffhowse Apr 2012 #18
Styx dumped their lead singer DonCoquixote Apr 2012 #20
Ya. I'd sign a petition to get Dennis back into Styx and dump Shaw. n/t miyazaki Apr 2012 #23
Me too CBGLuthier Apr 2012 #30
You've Obviously Never Met Him ProfessorGAC Apr 2012 #51
Nugent is a loudmouthed punk The Wizard Apr 2012 #21
Right on Wizard wendylaroux Apr 2012 #41
Just looked in on Turd's website- thought this was worth relating WhoIsNumberNone Apr 2012 #22
K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2012 #24
k&r... spanone Apr 2012 #25
nother CatWoman Apr 2012 #29
I agree even though I'm not a fan of either three madokie Apr 2012 #31
Have you ever checked out the lyrics to "Stranglehold"? blue neen Apr 2012 #33
Oh f*ck me with a spoon. GeorgeGist Apr 2012 #35
Done LiberalLovinLug Apr 2012 #36
Signed GiveMeFreedom Apr 2012 #37
He's touring with REO Meatwagon and Stynx? KamaAina Apr 2012 #38
And Drab Yankees too? Zambero Apr 2012 #47
They haven't let Deep Purple in either dems_rightnow Apr 2012 #54
signed wendylaroux Apr 2012 #39
. Go Vols Apr 2012 #40
Thank you so much for this. 99Forever Apr 2012 #45
In my Vietnam vets' group, years ago... pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #42
Great story. Thanks so much for sharing that. Gregorian Apr 2012 #56
Signed, Facebooked to a whole bunch of my friends.... 99Forever Apr 2012 #43
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #44
+ 1000. Nougat only shoots things that don't shoot back. Spineless little pissant. Dollface Apr 2012 #48
I signed. n/t RebelOne Apr 2012 #50
It'll never happen. I'm sure.. ObaMania Apr 2012 #53
MIDORI! Skittles Apr 2012 #55

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
46. Another pathetic right-wing "play the victim" analogy
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 03:03 PM
Apr 2012

What really happened to Ted Nugent is that he got tarred and feathered. First off, he exercised EXTREME-ly bad judgment by belly flopping into the vat of tar. Once he crawled out, he apparently got a bit hungry for his daily ration of raw flesh and proceeded to run amuck through the chicken coup. And he came out looking kinda bad for his self-directed efforts. Of course, the only way for Ted to "save face" was to turn the tables and blame others for his own reprehensible actions.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
26. By the time I saw my first concert, in elementary with my aunt (KISS, 1998), Nugent opened...
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 11:40 PM
Apr 2012

Along with Skid Row (far better than Nugent, in fact, far better than KISS). Shows you where his career went.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
34. Skid Row!
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 09:05 AM
Apr 2012

That is what I grew up on. The Styx, Reo Speedwagon stuff is a bit before my time. Is it embarrassing to admit that I went to a Poison concert when I was 14?

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
32. They Played My High School Prom...
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 08:33 AM
Apr 2012

1973...right after the release of their first album and two years before their national breakout with "Lady"...they were still known as the "Dukes of Roseland" to many of us...

ProfessorGAC

(65,060 posts)
49. First Time I Saw Them. . .
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 03:43 PM
Apr 2012

. . .was at the Joliet Armory. We were the token local act that opened for the opening act. (If memory serves that band was called Exile.)
GAC

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
9. Bragging about killing Commies. That's America to me!
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 10:21 PM
Apr 2012

OK, so it's just some dude with a petition, but must we defend brutal American imperialism in order to condemn someone who has threatened the president with violence?

meanit

(455 posts)
13. hypocrisy
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 10:35 PM
Apr 2012

Although the OP is a bit heavy on the imperial stuff, I think it's worded to point out the hypocrisy to those who think that Nugent is some kind of an " American warrior patriot", when just the opposite is true.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
28. Exactly. I don't support the "imperial stuff" of the petition, but
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 01:14 AM
Apr 2012

I fully support seeing chicken hawks get called out on their bluster and swagger by people who actually have something to back it up.

It's kind of like that "Beyond Scared Straight" show where the punk faux-tough-guy teenagers come face-to-face with actual, hardened criminals and gangs, and piss their pants.

Kaleva

(36,307 posts)
11. First thought Catwoman was a commie killing, tank blowing up, death defying vet...
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 10:30 PM
Apr 2012

until I clicked onto the link at the bottom.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
20. Styx dumped their lead singer
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 11:02 PM
Apr 2012

So frankly Styx withotu Dennis Deyoung is a joke. He was their main songwriter, the one who made all those concept albums the rest of the band "hates" even though they still play all those hits.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
30. Me too
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 08:18 AM
Apr 2012

Saw them back in 76 I think it was. Truly a great show. I remember that little shit Tommy Shaw running up and standing on the monitors so people could see him.

Tommy Shaw used to do a bit wile working with Nugent making fun of DeYoung and the whole Paradise Theater thing. Reall asshole shit.

Shaw has no class.

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
21. Nugent is a loudmouthed punk
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 11:05 PM
Apr 2012

Having spent a year in rice paddies and rubber plantations creating havoc and mayhem for people who neither threatened nor harmed us, I can categorically say Nugent would have experienced a serious "accident" after a few days in Vietnam.
Although I disagreed with the war, I served as the alternative was prison.
Luck played a major role in my survival. Next week will mark the 44th year of my return from the sunny shores of Vietnam.
Hell, Nugent shit his pants because he was worried about being drafted. Everything changes once the shooting starts.

WhoIsNumberNone

(7,875 posts)
22. Just looked in on Turd's website- thought this was worth relating
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 11:17 PM
Apr 2012
http://www.tednugent.com/events/

He's actually doing a simultaneous solo tour-
The humor here is when you look at the disparity between the venues he's playing with REO Speedwagon & Styx vs his solo gigs...

The Midwest Rock 'n Roll Express Tour is playing prestigious places like Red Rocks Ampetheatre and other big pavilions. His solo tour is playing county fairs and biker rallies.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
31. I agree even though I'm not a fan of either three
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 08:23 AM
Apr 2012

There is no one that pisses me off quicker than the turdman nugent. Pedophile, chicken hawk great white hunter

and his ilk

blue neen

(12,321 posts)
33. Have you ever checked out the lyrics to "Stranglehold"?
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 08:51 AM
Apr 2012

here i come again now baby
like a dog in heat
tell it's me by the clamour now baby
i like to tear up the street

now I've been smoking for so long
you know i'm here to stay
got you in a stranglehold baby
you best get out of the way

road i cruise is a bitch now baby
you know you can't do me 'round
if a house gets in my way baby
you know I'll burn it down

you ran that night that you left me
you put me in my place
got you in a stranglehold now baby
then i crushed your face

"Then I crushed your face?" How telling, huh?

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
36. Done
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 01:27 PM
Apr 2012

Styx was one of favorite bands back in the day.

Cruising down the highway with "Come sail away..come sail away...come sail away with me" blasting from my 8 Track....pure bliss.

GiveMeFreedom

(976 posts)
37. Signed
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 02:25 PM
Apr 2012

I served my country. 75-79 USN VP-1 AW2. Nugent is an embarrassment to veterans everywhere. What a phony human being he is.

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
40. .
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 02:33 PM
Apr 2012


REO Speedwagon - Golden Country

Lyrics:

Golden country your face is so red
With all of your money your poor can be fed
You strut around and you flirt with disaster
Never really carin' just what comes after
Well your blacks are dyin' but your back is still turned
And your freaks are cryin' but your back is still turned
You better stop your hidin or your country will burn
The time has come for you my friend
To all this ugliness we must put an end
Before we leave we must make a stand
Mortgage people you crawl to your homes
Your security lies in your bed of white foam
You act concerned but then why turn away
When a lady was raped on your doorstep today
Well your blacks are cryin' but your back is still turned
And your freaks are dyin' but your back is still turned
You better stop your hidin or your country will burn
The time has come for you my friend
To all this ugliness we must put an end
Before we leave we must make a stand, oh yeah......

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
45. Thank you so much for this.
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 03:02 PM
Apr 2012

As you can see from my reply below, this song came into my mind immediately after reading the OP. The sentiment of Golden Country is even more relevant today than it was when they played it 4 decades ago. Thanks again for posting.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
42. In my Vietnam vets' group, years ago...
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 02:44 PM
Apr 2012

...some of us were invited every year to speak about the war to a high school class on 'Major Events of the 20th Century.'

On my first visit, I noticed 'VIETNAM' spelled out across the back wall of the classroom in letters 2-3 feet high. Then I learned that the letters were made of 58,000 straightpins the students had spent 5 minutes each day putting in.

The next year, the back wall was covered with a collage of 58,000 faces the students had cut from magazine photos.

The teacher, it turned out, had been a VN War protester and draft dodger. For refusing to report when drafted, he was sentenced to 2 years in prison. I can't remember now whether he served the full term or just 18 months, but he did time in prison.

Our group of VN combat vets had enormous respect for that teacher. He accepted the consequences, and sacrificed, to honor his principles.

To use a Vietnamese expression, Nugent isn't worth that teacher's little fingernail.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
56. Great story. Thanks so much for sharing that.
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 07:49 PM
Apr 2012

I didn't know if I'd be willing to go to jail. I wasn't going to Vietnam though. Before I got drafted, the war ended. But it was frightening. Now that I ready what you had to say, I can see how 2 years in jail would actually be liberating. I would pay that price now, if I had to.

I also admire your willingness to see beyond your own ego and experience.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
43. Signed, Facebooked to a whole bunch of my friends....
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 02:51 PM
Apr 2012

... and suggested to REO that they listen to their own song, "Golden Country" off REO TWO if they have any question as to why we are upset. I've quite literally been to more REO concerts than I can count and started listening to them before "Ridin' The Storm Out" was even recorded.

Dollface

(1,590 posts)
48. + 1000. Nougat only shoots things that don't shoot back. Spineless little pissant.
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 03:40 PM
Apr 2012

He shouldn't be on the same stage with those bands anyway. His music sucks. (IMO)

ObaMania

(2,054 posts)
53. It'll never happen. I'm sure..
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 06:53 PM
Apr 2012

.. Tommy Shaw wants to bring the Nuge' on stage to play some lame-assed Damn Yankees tunes.

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