GOP Just Like Any Other Nazi Group

[TheMastersNemesis]

If you look at Machiavelli's "The Prince" and look at Goebbel's tactics in Germany you find all the same strategies going on. That's what one talk show caller said today on a radio talk show. And I can't really argue with that because what the GOP is doing runs parallel to that book and those tactics. Attack all the vulnerable and demonize them. Go particularly hard on gay and transgenders. Mix in a good dose of fanatical religion. Take over the media and have it do all your bidding. Establish a repeatable line of hateful, racist and bigoted propaganda. Explode the military budget with all new weapons. Then scrap the economy to make the populace hungry and desperate. Stack the courts with fellow nazis to skew justice. Then broadcast as many lies as you can as quickly as you can. Paralyze government and demonize public workers. Empower a crazy outfit like the NRA. And it goes on and on.

Based on what we see in Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Arizona, Missouri, Tennessee, Kentucky, Virginia, Pennsylvania etc and we can see what the GOP thinks of freedom. We can see how they will rule and not represent. This election will truly be the election of our lifetime. The only thing left is to see what the Republicanazi party will replace the American flag with whenever they do get power.

[RKP5637]

1. Well said! The GOP are now terrorists and un-American IMO. n/t

[freshwest]

2. They saw 1984 not as a warning against a future dystopia, but a guidebook to bring it to pass.

I remember how apparent it was in 2004 when I saw bumper stickers that said, Bush in 1984. Just 20 years behind their grand plan, I guess.

[Overseas]

4. Reagan was re-elected in 1984. That was very eerie. Trading arms with the enemy to conduct

an illegal war and people still voted for him.

And then Bush was even worse. Beyond imagining for me. But I haven't forgotten. Torture on so many levels.

[freshwest]

8. I was mortified when he won in 1980. The GOP has controlled the USA most of my voting life.

Most of the people I have voted for have not won. And I am really tired of it. But it is what it is.

[coalition_unwilling]

17. Iran-Contra story did not break until after Reagan's re-election, IIRC, although

we were involved in plenty of nasty business in Central America before then.

People voted for Reagan after he presided over the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression. (Adult unemployment reached 12% nationally.)

[Overseas]

3. Well said. Good description of GOP madness. Corporate madness knowing nothing but profit.

Burn the house down if it makes you more money.

[Tennessee Gal]

5. Machiavellianism: The political doctrine of Machiavelli, which denies the relevance of morality

in political affairs and holds that craft and deceit are justified in pursuing and maintaining political power.

For Machiavelli, politics was about one and only one thing: getting and keeping power or authority. Everything else, religion, morality, truth, honor, and integrity, that people associate with politics has nothing to do with this fundamental aspect of politics, unless being moral helps one get and keep power. The only skill that counts in getting and maintaining power is calculation. The successful politician knows what to do or what to say for every situation, no matter what it takes. It is only about winning and keeping power.

This is exactly what the Republican Party is all about and it is exactly what is behind the lies of Mitt Romney.

[dimbear]

6. I don't think the GOP learned anything useful from Machiavelli, Italian patriot that he was.

For instance, Signor Machiavelli didn't care much for torture, having been himself stretched on the rack.

Goebbels, hell yah.

[Tennessee Gal]

10. Atwater and Rove

Kevin Phillips, former Republican strategist, wrote in his book "American Dynasty: Aristocracy, Fortune, and the Politics of Deceit in the House of Bush" about Carl Rove and the late Lee Atwater, George H. W. Bush's political strategist, following the teachings of Machiavelli.

[dimbear]

11. I see your point, of course, but then they think they're following the teachings of Jesus too.

Machiavelli is revered as a great patriot by many Italians, perhaps we should let the Italians judge whether our Republicans have been paying him any careful attention.

[grasswire]

7. oddly enough, I've been comparing it to the WW2 phenomenon of "Bushido"

Bushido was the Japanese warrior code that allowed/encouraged the Japanese people and the Imperial Army to consider its enemies as lesser beings, deserving only of barbaric, inhumane treatment. Vivisection, cannibalism, starvation, torturous medical experiments, extreme physical and mental deprivation and manipulations -- all of that and more was carried out on tens of thousands of these lesser beings -- all in the name of hatred of the *other*. The Japanese were propagandized; atrocities were the result.

There is a similar property in the Republican attacks on Americans. They are propagandized. They hate America for its freedoms. The thuggery, the attacks, the thumb in the eye -- that's all part of the same ruthless barbarism.

[yortsed snacilbuper]

9. I hope my vote against them,stops them,

but I'm worried!

[RZM]

12. I suggest you read a few history books before you try this again

You make a few accidentally accurate points, but most of this is bunk.

The Nazis were certainly not about 'fanatical religion.' Quite the opposite. They sought to undermine traditional Christianity because they disagreed with its basic premises.

The GOP has not 'taken over the media' - that's demonstrated by the intense conservative hostility to the MSM. DU hates to hear this, but the MSM really is liberal, at least culturally. The difference is it's not the type of liberalism DU likes (the media is more 1 percent elite liberal).

The 'scrap the economy' line is particularly laughable. Without the Great Depression, the Nazis probably couldn't have ever come into power. In 1928 they were pulling a whopping 2.6 percent of the vote. By 1932, they were the largest party in the Reichstag. The tanking of the economy put them in power, not the other way around. Hitler actually helped put Germany back to work. That was one of his claims to fame at the time and major reason for his broad support. Your take on this is 100 percent backwards.

Try reading about this shit before posting about it next time.

[TheMastersNemesis]

13. Your Post is Bullpuckey.

I can't believe I wasted my time serving in Vietnam to protect the likes of you.

[Marengo]

14. You weren't "protecting" him at all...

Vietnam was not a war for the purpose of defense against an aggressor, WE were the aggressor. Inductee or volunteer, you were killing people fighting for national independence from colonial powers and the right of self determination.

I have not read all of your posts, but a many of those I have reference your service in Vietnam. Why do you consider this so currently relevant?

[RZM]

15. You could always try refuting what I actually said

That's kind of how this thing is supposed to work.

[ladjf]

16. I believe your post to be the least accurate one I've ever read on DU. nt

[RZM]

20. I take it you never visited the old 9/11 forum then n/t

[ladjf]

21. I read DU since it first started. nt

[RZM]

22. Well then

If you think that what I wrote was less believable than mini-nukes and holograms, I'm pretty sure we're done here

[coalition_unwilling]

18. Without the connivance of traditional German conservatives like Van Papen and

Hindenburg, the Nazis could not have ever come into power, since the Nazis never polled above 34% in any free and fair election. But your points otherwise are well taken.

There is one parallel that bears mentioning: 9/11 and the Reichstag Fire. Hitler used the latter to ram through the Enabling Act and we all know how Bush and his Junta used 9/11.

The French scientist Louis Pasteur said that 'Fortune favors the prepared mind" and I really think that can be said about both Bush\Cheney and Hitler. Each took advantage of a paradigm-shifting event that fortune thrust into their laps to consolidate their power.

[RZM]

19. No argument here

Hitler played the establishment German right like a fiddle. Their plan was to use him for their own purposes before he self-destructed (which they thought was inevitable). They had no idea what kind of tiger they were riding.

But Hitler went way further than Bush and co. ever dreamed of. Hitler completely wiped out democracy in a matter of months. Bush got the patriot act, but our political system is still fundamentally the same as it was. Hitler pretty much dismantled the whole Weimar system.