Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
33 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
President Obama's Gallup approval rating amongst liberal Democrats from April 9th-15th is 89%. (Original Post) LoZoccolo Apr 2012 OP
Buddy Roemer 2012! Daniel537 Apr 2012 #1
Hurray! We have the latest news from the Reform Party here at DU. freshwest Apr 2012 #8
Link? Cooley Hurd Apr 2012 #2
I no longer have the link. LoZoccolo Apr 2012 #4
Link for everyone in this thread complaining about a link: joshcryer Apr 2012 #13
I like to give people that chance to dismiss it entirely. LoZoccolo Apr 2012 #15
Link? Bryn Apr 2012 #3
Not even MSNBC or RT give out links to individual pages of poll results on the television broadcast. LoZoccolo Apr 2012 #5
This isn't TV. pintobean Apr 2012 #9
Its from Gallup: FarLeftFist Apr 2012 #12
How many Democrats consider themselves to be liberal? OnyxCollie Apr 2012 #6
85% of Democrats approve, 89% of Liberal D's approve, 75% Moderate D's, 70% Conservative D's. joshcryer Apr 2012 #14
So where are the conservative Democrats on DU A Simple Game Apr 2012 #17
Usually it's liberal Democrats who are defending Obama... joshcryer Apr 2012 #22
There are several conservative people on DU that make a habit A Simple Game Apr 2012 #29
According to Gallup OnyxCollie Apr 2012 #24
Now, if only they get out and vote... freshwest Apr 2012 #7
"Liberal Democrats". Bonobo Apr 2012 #10
By those who would redefine "liberal" to mean "hating Democrats and helping Republicans." nt TheWraith Apr 2012 #16
+1...nt SidDithers Apr 2012 #19
Whoosh! Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #21
How is it 'hating' Democrats to say we are supposed to stand for working people, not Wall Street? Octafish Apr 2012 #23
At least we have not become Republicans. nt Bonobo Apr 2012 #26
So nothing new to add. Okay. anti-alec Apr 2012 #11
Amazed that it's not higher. Octafish Apr 2012 #18
This can't be. DU told me so. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #20
Now that is amazing treestar Apr 2012 #25
Someone wrote that real liberals left and were replaced by fake ones who like the "liberal" label. LoZoccolo Apr 2012 #27
89% is an astronomical number this far into his first term and with an election Number23 Apr 2012 #28
and your point is? hobbit709 Apr 2012 #30
That an disproportional number of posters here are from that 11% Motown_Johnny Apr 2012 #31
It's all in how the question is worded. hobbit709 Apr 2012 #32
That disproportional number of posters here OnyxCollie Apr 2012 #33

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
13. Link for everyone in this thread complaining about a link:
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 08:48 PM
Apr 2012
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Job-Approval-Center.aspx

Wish Loz would just post the fucking link.

People still will confuse liberal with liberal democrat and he can still laugh at them.
 

LoZoccolo

(29,393 posts)
5. Not even MSNBC or RT give out links to individual pages of poll results on the television broadcast.
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 07:10 PM
Apr 2012

FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
12. Its from Gallup:
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 08:47 PM
Apr 2012

Views of Obama depend very much on party, Gallup added: "His approval rating ranges from 89% among liberal Democrats to 8% among conservative Republicans". Holy crap, 8% of conservatives APPROVE!

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
6. How many Democrats consider themselves to be liberal?
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 08:35 PM
Apr 2012

That's an important piece of information.

I think they are outnumbered by moderate Democrats. What the President's approval rating with them?

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
14. 85% of Democrats approve, 89% of Liberal D's approve, 75% Moderate D's, 70% Conservative D's.
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 08:51 PM
Apr 2012

So you can kind of extrapolate from there.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
17. So where are the conservative Democrats on DU
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 10:03 PM
Apr 2012

that usually want to denigrate the liberals on DU for hating President Obama?

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
22. Usually it's liberal Democrats who are defending Obama...
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 10:27 PM
Apr 2012

...against liberal non-Democrats who post here.

If you send any signal that you are a pragmatist you fail the purity tests and get called, as I have been, a right wing nut.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
29. There are several conservative people on DU that make a habit
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 07:36 AM
Apr 2012

of telling liberal people on DU that they are "Obama bashers", whenever they are in the least critical of President Obama.

They are here, and they are vocal.

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
24. According to Gallup
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 10:48 PM
Apr 2012

Only 21% of the electorate consider themselves to be liberal.

Conservatives Remain the Largest Ideological Group in U.S.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/152021/Conservatives-Remain-Largest-Ideological-Group.aspx

21% of the entire population. So out of those who consider themselves Democrats.... that's not many.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
23. How is it 'hating' Democrats to say we are supposed to stand for working people, not Wall Street?
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 10:30 PM
Apr 2012

How is it "hating Democrats and helping Republicans" to say we voted for Obama because he said he would support universal health coverage?

How is it "hating Democrats and helping Republicans" to say we voted for Obama because he said he would bring transparancy to government instead of increasing the assault on civil liberties and the powers of corporations.

There are many, many more examples -- and that's before getting to the drones and the execution of American teenagers by executive order.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
18. Amazed that it's not higher.
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 10:06 PM
Apr 2012

The guy's doing so much for the average American and the poor and for justice and peace and all. He really is.

 

LoZoccolo

(29,393 posts)
27. Someone wrote that real liberals left and were replaced by fake ones who like the "liberal" label.
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 11:34 PM
Apr 2012

Number23

(24,544 posts)
28. 89% is an astronomical number this far into his first term and with an election
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:45 AM
Apr 2012

right around the corner. That is phenomenal.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
31. That an disproportional number of posters here are from that 11%
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 07:41 AM
Apr 2012

and that the President has more widespread support than is reflected here.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
32. It's all in how the question is worded.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 07:54 AM
Apr 2012

While I am a supporter of Obama, I'm not an enthusiastic cheerleader for everything he does.

so if a poll asks me if I support him, my answer would be yes. Most polls also ask if I am a "Strong" supporter,If I support him "Somewhat"
or if I "Disapprove"
I'm willing to bet that 89% number is not just "Strong" supporters.

And I consider myself far to the left of Obama-so that makes me quite "liberal"

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
33. That disproportional number of posters here
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 09:54 AM
Apr 2012

can actually understand abstract concepts like "liberal" and "conservative."

The majority of the mass public can't.

http://politicalbubbles.com/The_Nature_of_Belief_Systems_in_Mass_Publics_Converse_1964.pdf

http://wikisum.com/w/Converse:_The_nature_of_belief_systems_in_mass_publics

In Brief

A great majority of people neither adhere to a full, complete set of beliefs which produces a clear ideology nor do they have a clear grasp of what ideology is. This is measured by a lack of coherence in responses to open-ended questions. Ideology of elites is not mirrored by the masses and voter revolt to a political party does not reflect ideological shifts.

Converse analyzes open-ended interview questions to measure conceptualization of ideology. He concludes that the liberal-conservative continuum is a high level abstraction not typically used by the man in the street because of response instability and lack of connections made between answers. There is no underlying belief structure for most people, just a bunch of random opinions. Even on highly controversial, well-publicized issues, large portions of the electorate do not have coherent opinions. In fact, many simply answer survey questions as though they are flipping a coin.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»President Obama's Gallup ...