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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNJ Gov. Christie has cops haul individuals onstage at town hall meeting, berating them at length
This is a new thing in politics. I guess the nation's laughing response to "don't taze me bro"
has emboldened rulers everywhere. This is something straight out of "The Hunger Games".
Reposted courtesy madfloridian:
The man is a bully and just keeps on being rude. I don't know how NJ folks can stand it.
R. J. Eskow has a great column about the many people Christie has insulted.
Chris Christie: The Heartless, Smug, Bullying Embodiment of the Republican Party
And last night he proved his bona fides as a Republican by proving he meets his party's other criterion, which is an absolute contempt toward the ordinary men and women who have been victimized by its policies. The night before the nation received its latest bad news on unemployment, Christie told a cheering Republican crowd that the nation's jobless were lazy examples of an entitlement mentality.
.....Christie's bullying style was best illustrated when he insulted and abused another constituent when he asked a perfectly reasonable question about taxes. He demanded that a state trooper bring the man onstage, berated him at length, and then ordered him expelled from the room.
During another meeting he called a law student an "idiot" and told him to "shut up" before having the student, a former Navy SEAL, forcibly removed from the building. (Part of Christie's intimidation style includes hauling people onstage for a "conversation" - and then not letting them speak.)
Here is more about the "idiot" student. Christie played to his audience. It is in itself scary that the audience was pleased at such a display.
Governor Chris Christie to "Idiot" student: "damn man, I'm governor, could you shut up for a second?"
There is a video included.
After Christie says that Brown and his fellow classmates who are already enrolled at the university will still receive a Rutgers diploma, Brown interrupts him, shouting back, "What about my son? What about my neighbors? What about my friends?"
Christie then appears to lose his temper, saying, "If you decide what you want to do is put on a show today, let me tell you, I can go back and forth with you as much as you want. And let me tell you something: After you graduate from law school, you conduct yourself like that in a courtroom, your rear end's going to get thrown in jail, idiot."
Christie then tried to explain his behavior to the receptive audience, saying, "I tried to be patient with the guy. Every time I tried to answer, he's like, yelling over me again." And he received applause for what may turn out to be a regrettable follow-up quip, when he said, "I mean, damn man, I'm governor, could you shut up for a minute?"
The NJ Star Ledger calls him out on his bullying.
Christie bully act getting old
Chaudruc, reluctant to be part of another Christie YouTube moment, was escorted to the stage by a state trooper. Chaudruc never got another word in. Twice Chaudrucs size, Christie crowded his personal space, raised his voice and lectured him on economics with a wagging finger. Each time Chaudruc tried to make a point, Christie cut him off.
When Christie finished, Chaudruc motioned for the microphone. This was, after all, a conversation. Christie shooed him away and a trooper herded Chaudruc off stage.
The clip appears on YouTube under the title Christie rips apart rude questioner, a headline written, no doubt, by a Christie disciple.
The audience there not only cheered and applauded but whistled loudly.
Initech
(100,076 posts)drm604
(16,230 posts)If so, that's assault, isn't it?
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)He would not forcibly drag me up on stage. I am probably bigger and stronger than Christie. I would CERTAINLY out-shout him.
Damn, why do all the bullies live so far away?
Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)And call his bluff (and I understand he is very bluff).
onehandle
(51,122 posts)vaberella
(24,634 posts)If they really regretted it they would have been on the streets months ago calling for his recall.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)Your post made me google, and here it is:
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/04/11/poll-gov-christies-approval-ratings-highest-ever-nj-voters-support-nypd-muslim-surveillance/
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NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is enjoying the best approval ratings ever, according to a new Quinnipiac University poll.
The poll, which was released on Wednesday morning, found that New Jersey voters approve of Christie 59-36 percent. The ratings break down in the following way: Republicans approve 92-6 percent, independents approve 64-32, while Democrats disapprove 64-30 percent.
I think that if troopers were really dragging people on the stage forcibly the public would have responded with disapproval. Something's got to be a bit off about the descriptions of the incidents.
Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)On Edit: I agree with vaberella.
Rex
(65,616 posts)People love to watch others suffer. Well Repukes do.
vaberella
(24,634 posts)However, it seems his distasteful nature is actually liked in NJ across the board...even 30% amongst Dems as pretty high in my book.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)30% approval among NJ Dems?
Is that a good polling outfit? Do NJ DU'rs think this is right?
What has this guy really got? I haven't followed him, and NJ has about a 9% unemployment rate, so it can't be the wonderful economy!
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)recognize what those kind of people are until it's too late -- or they say they didn't etc.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)I don't know anything about the cultural mores of NJ, why they would embrace this man. And he's even been mentioned many times as going for higher office.
cali
(114,904 posts)Did Chaudruc express his reluctance? Was he forcibly pushed on stage? What actually happened. I know Christie's a heartless bully, but according to poll after poll, he's wildly popular in NJ.
Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)What's up with that?
If anything, he's wildly popular because he disrespects the personal rights of his constituents.
Ever heard of "don't taaase me bro?" Ever heard the "dirty hippie" jokes about the women who were assaulted by Pepper Spray Cop?
Those lot would fit right at home in Central Jersey. Believe me I know.
I have a T-shirt from Central Jersey in military camouflage that reads:
THIS IS ALL I CAN BE
I bought it because it encapsulates the Jersey Boy mentality.
cali
(114,904 posts)I simply added that because I think in the face of how clearly abusive he is, it's interesting that he remains in such high esteem with so many of the denizens of the state.
My comment was directed to how poor the posted piece were. I don't think I- could have been much clearer.
Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)Credit madfloridian for putting this post together, btw. I simply reposted it.
Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)Of all too many voters who joke about citizens being abused and humiliated in public for daring to speak up... merely citing it as a reason why this sort of thing is popular.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)Like the cast of Jersey Shore but with less money.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)Socially liberal (at best), economically conservative and (usually though not always) racist.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)Belligerent Fucking Douchebag.
Cass
(2,600 posts)that pay his salary, but those who disagree employ him as well.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)for VP we will see his bullying. First off Biden won't take that because he knows how to go with him toe to toe. The american people aren't going to want a hot head for VP or even president. I am a heavy person. I wouldn't vote for him. He is a heartattack waiting to happen. He has a terrible temper. I don't want to see that in the white house.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I am not talking about being fat intolerant. He is just big. He uses his personal valence as a way of bullying. Most women I think would fear him. I often compare him to Ralph Kramden, shaking his fist at his wife and snarling "To the MOON, Alice!"
I think he would really kill Mittens candidacy. Women fear him for good reason and Mitt doesn't inspire them either with his anti woman policies, Ann notwithstanding.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)bury him.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)There is nothing nice about him. Women fear him. Who does he appeal to? A bunch of women hating white men? Is that enough to get him elected President?
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)don't think he'll win reelection in his state. Does anyone know what his rating is now?
Rex
(65,616 posts)How the fuck does he get away with that kind of shit? Oh right, the police work for him and not us. How stupid of me to forget my place.
Bandit
(21,475 posts)I certainly can not feel any pride for living in a country that is so rude, obnoxious, and without any moral compass..
book_worm
(15,951 posts)A bully who can't walk 100 feet without being out of breath.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)'to get off their fat asses'
I figured since he can call other people fat then he deserves it.
And btw I'm overweight too but I'm not offended.
Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)Hauling constituents up on stage at major public speeches, for the entertainment of the audience.
You know, sort of like the "special guests" at a typical state of the union speech / town hall meeting. Just in reverse.
It could be a ratings bonanza.
LiberalFighter
(50,929 posts)for illegal detainment or whatever works.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)And yet Bruce refuses to do any concerts when Christie asks him. For the Christie's Inauguration he had to bring in a Springsteen tribute band. I'm guessing that'll be the same band that places at the Labor Day concert at the new (and very unneeded) casino in Atlantic City.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Really stick his finger in Christie's eye, so to speak.
Would I just LOVE to see that happen!
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)and what's funny was Bruce's excuse for Christie's inauguration - I don't get involved in political events.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)the "Don't Tase Me Bro" - nor did people think that "funny". The public officials could not have been more different. Kerry went out of his way to allow a clearly troubled man, who was not at the front of the line to ask a question. He then, after the first question was asked started to respectfully answer - the man interrupted with more (all controversial) questions until the school turned off his mike and had told the security to eject him. Even then, Kerry tried to calm things down, but the officials wanted him out and he was fighting them. As they moved him to the back of the room, Kerry spoke to those at the event continuing to answer the question. He did not know until he left the event that the man was tased at the back of the auditorium.
In addition, the people involved in NJ were NOT trying to create a scene. One, in my county, was a middle aged Republican teacher, who was polite and still forced to the stage. The FL guy was a provoceteur and had set things up to video his verbal attack on the Senator.
The difference is the Senator is a gentleman, the Governor a bully. The Fl guy was a troublemaker, the NJ people were not.
Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)And condone the idea for general treatment of hecklers at public forums.
Sadly, if Kerry had expressed contempt for the man he probably would have gotten a ratings bump for showing "swagger".
karynnj
(59,503 posts)the post. Christie's behavior is NOT normal or acceptable. These people were NOT hecklers - in at least some incidents. They were used as props by Christie to create an image of being tough. The point I was making is that Kerry accorded a man who did not deserve it respect, Christie showed no respect for people who clearly did deserve it.
I don't think that Kerry would have gotten a ratings bump for rudeness. The fact is, that just being Kerry he sometimes has swagger. I witnessed that when he campaigned for Corzine in NJ. At the edge of the parking lot at the restaurant where he was speaking, there were a group of college Republicans and an EMS vehicle. A woman who had arrived early had a problem with getting too much sun and was taken to the EMS vehicle when she fainted a few minutes before Kerry arrived. She asked one of the EMS people if he would get a photo (with her camera of Kerry). He left saying maybe he could get Kerry to come. The other man told her that was real unlikely as he would have to leave the front where he was listening to local officials speak and walk through the crowd. In fact, he did just that. As the local paper reported, as he very quickly and purposely walked to the EMS vehicle, the college Republicans thinking he was coming towards them, ran away to the far back of the lot! The EMS guy took a few photos of Kerry and the woman and he wished her well.
Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)"Sway" average Dems into turning on the "loser".
John McCain tried to run an honorable campaign (for the most part, if you follow the story of Game Change etc.) and lose (which in that case was a good thing, of course Palin was willing to do dirty work). But the precedent is there for winning dirty in American politics...
That doesn't mean I would have agreed with President Kerry if he had elected to be as conciliatory to the right as Obama has, but anyone in America would have preferred to see Kerry win in hindsight... anyone except the average person who hates "losers" and "softhearted" individuals.
barbtries
(28,795 posts)supposed to be a grown up. are his days as governor numbered?
Dollface
(1,590 posts)It's an old-fashioned word but it suits him so well.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)will not be afraid (whether by the suddenness of it all or because of imminent arrest) who will verbally beat the shit out of him.
Won't be fun for him.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)where a dictator orders his troopers to seize and haul civilians.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)we need to start making these fascist laws work for us.
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)to remain in public office. They have created a Frankenstein party.
Mendocino
(7,492 posts)and scream at people. He's only about an inch away from stroking out.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)polite or ignore those who disagree with them, Christy is routinely abusive to anyone who dares question him.
He is creepy.
But I'd say the kind of people who love him are the kind who loved Ronald reagan and love judge judy. They love seeing someone tell off the powerless and love to see people humiliated in general. makes them feel powerful.
Christy is the kind of person i despise more than any other.
He would be running the gas chambers in nazi germany or rounding up jews.