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veganlush

(2,049 posts)
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 01:58 PM Apr 2012

Job creator creators

I'm sick of hearing how the rich are "job creators" and how the rich are "risk takers" and for that they are just indispensable as if they could do it alone. Every rich guy would ever sold a bunch of widgets or whatever, has always relied on workers to get it to market. The rich "risk taker" could never have become rich without laborers doing the work for them on many different levels. And what about the consumers, who are mostly lower and middle/upper middle class (99%) no rich job creating risk taker could get ANYWHERE without them. Aren't we the job creator creators?

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Job creator creators (Original Post) veganlush Apr 2012 OP
Yes. Demand is what creates jobs. postulater Apr 2012 #1
I completely agree with your post; but ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2012 #2
Also, most of the millions spent on road repair.... kentuck Apr 2012 #3
It is a circle but the thing is 'job creators' just polls better than anything else that would be jp11 Apr 2012 #4

postulater

(5,075 posts)
1. Yes. Demand is what creates jobs.
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 02:07 PM
Apr 2012

Jobs create products. Products allow profit. And profit gets distributed to stockholders. If the workers were also the stockholders then the middle class will grow. As it is the profit makes the rich richer.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
2. I completely agree with your post; but ...
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 02:23 PM
Apr 2012

Might I suggest, you flip the argument ...

Start with the consumer (demand) argument, i.e.,

what about the consumers, who are mostly lower and middle/upper middle class (99%) no rich job creating risk taker could get ANYWHERE without them. Aren't we the job creator creators?


Since without someone buying the widgets, or the product that the widgets go into, there would be no risk-taking or job creation, and that demand is created by mostly lower and middle/upper middle class (99%), that build and sell the widgets.

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
3. Also, most of the millions spent on road repair....
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 02:23 PM
Apr 2012

is due to heavy trucks hauling their products to market so they can make more money. But we pay to fix the roads also.

jp11

(2,104 posts)
4. It is a circle but the thing is 'job creators' just polls better than anything else that would be
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 02:33 PM
Apr 2012

used to describe so many of the rich greedy holier than thou people that republicans cow tow to.

Rich, millionaires, billionaires, etc work well when you say they are fine financially, they don't need more tax breaks, etc. Throw out job creators and now you can say they need that tax break to create jobs, hell they are job creators, you shouldn't talk bad about them either cause that might scare them and they won't create you a job. It is about fear, if they are job creators then it all begins with them and without them you have nothing. Best not look at them funny either or they'll shrink back into their shell and you guessed it no jobs, then there is 'uncertainty' which is the blame for all the worlds woes. Really all most of them are is a bank, before so much money got sent to so few and banks became so huge banks actually lent people money to start businesses and some rich people would fund some 'nutty' idea that panned out.

Amazing we've made it so far having never had an all seeing oracle that told us with certainty what would happen.

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