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kpete

(71,994 posts)
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 12:21 PM Apr 2012

POOR ANN: "We were living on the edge"

1994 interview: When Mitt Romney ran for the U.S. Senate

Mrs. Romney gave a lengthy interview to the Boston Globe, which published a 4,000-word article that portrayed her as wealthy and spoiled. Boston's rival newspaper, the Herald, quoted excerpts in a column titled, 'Daughter of Privilege Knows Little of Real World.'

■When the couple was living in a basement apartment ($62/month) at Brigham Young, "We were happy, studying hard. Neither one of us had a job, because Mitt had enough of an investment from stock that we could sell off a little at a time. The stock came from Mitt's father. When he took over American Motors, the stock was worth nothing. But he invested Mitt's birthday money year to year -- it wasn't much, a few thousand, but he put it into American Motors because he believed in himself. Five years later, stock that had been $6 a share was $96 and Mitt cashed it so we could live and pay for education."

■When Mitt was at Harvard (remember, he did go there for a joint MBA/JD), Ann said, "Another son came along 18 months later, although we waited four years to have the third, because Mitt was still in school and we had no income except the stock we were chipping away at. We were living on the edge, not entertaining. No, I did not work. Mitt thought it was important for me to stay home with the children, and I was delighted."

■Their last argument was when she was 17: "We did have one argument, but it was before marriage, when I thought he was being too possessive, when I wasn't really understanding that he was just so in love with me and so committed. I was 17, and we had a real argument. But that was the last one. Isn't that strange? It's like people might think there's something wrong with our relationship."


Columnist Margery Egan wrote: "Today I realized that Ann Romney has not a clue about my life nor the lives of anybody I know. 'Living on the edge,' she said. Selling of their stock holdings. She has not an inkling. Not even a hint."
http://gothamist.com/2012/04/14/ann_romney_in_1994_mitt_thought_it.php#photo-1

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POOR ANN: "We were living on the edge" (Original Post) kpete Apr 2012 OP
I wonder if there's any real estate on 'the edge.' AtomicKitten Apr 2012 #1
There is something wrong with your relationship fightforfreedom123 Apr 2012 #2
They only had one argument??? What are they, friggin robots? - n/t coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #3
Yeah I find that *EXTREMELY* hard to believe. Initech Apr 2012 #17
Nope, I'm guessing Ann's a compliant subservient Mormon wife. Mitt's the boss riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #19
I believe you are correct. trotsky Apr 2012 #29
Reminds me of the tale of the family COLGATE4 Apr 2012 #4
...and so were 'the help' at their several other mansions! FailureToCommunicate Apr 2012 #32
"Living on the edge" gratuitous Apr 2012 #5
I picked up the same thing marlakay Apr 2012 #20
A phrase comes to mind: Leftist Agitator Apr 2012 #6
Waited four years to have the third? That, my dear, is birth control. deminks Apr 2012 #7
Well, she did say Mitt wasn't stiff. FSogol Apr 2012 #12
Living off of Investments is NOT living on the edge liberal N proud Apr 2012 #8
A few thousand back then was plenty Mz Pip Apr 2012 #11
LMAO, that jumped out at me too. trotsky Apr 2012 #22
Ramen does not just come in a box or package liberal N proud Apr 2012 #24
I like how she clarifies it was his "birthday money" OriginalGeek Apr 2012 #33
Edge of what, exactly? LiberalEsto Apr 2012 #9
Touche! closeupready Apr 2012 #26
Ann can GFH Marrah_G Apr 2012 #10
She is getting on my last nerve goclark Apr 2012 #14
Now that really pisses me off. College on the GI bill, with 2 babies. We both worked. DevonRex Apr 2012 #13
She is comparing camping in the backyard to surviving in the wilderness DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #15
that's a very good analogy n/t renate Apr 2012 #25
They had to sell some stock to live - the horror!!! Initech Apr 2012 #16
Poor things couldn't "entertain." DevonRex Apr 2012 #21
Oh my FUCK laundry_queen Apr 2012 #27
Oh thank god somebody else DevonRex Apr 2012 #28
Terrible. They had to eat DOMESTIC caviar! n/t Ian David Apr 2012 #18
What was the size of their student loan debt abfter all that? hedgehog Apr 2012 #23
Choosing not to have a job and cashing out stocks instead. Ian_rd Apr 2012 #30
The Stepford wife goes to college.......... Smilo Apr 2012 #31
I always though we were relatively well-off in college Retrograde Apr 2012 #34
Wow--this is soooo out of touch! tblue37 Apr 2012 #35
 
2. There is something wrong with your relationship
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 12:26 PM
Apr 2012

"We did have one argument, but it was before marriage, when I thought he was being too possessive, when I wasn't really understanding that he was just so in love with me and so committed. I was 17, and we had a real argument. But that was the last one. Isn't that strange? It's like people might think there's something wrong with our relationship."

You should have called 911 and had Mitt arrested for harassment and stalking. But you did not. Not a great thing to teach your children. If they did not know, now they do.

Initech

(100,079 posts)
17. Yeah I find that *EXTREMELY* hard to believe.
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 01:32 PM
Apr 2012

As they said on the movie Super Troopers - "Oh I'll believe that when me shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert."

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
19. Nope, I'm guessing Ann's a compliant subservient Mormon wife. Mitt's the boss
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 01:42 PM
Apr 2012

so presumably she defers to him.

Honestly, I read that bit of information as coded language for other Mormon families... Its pretty damning if you ask me but what the hell do I know since I'm an uppity atheist pants-wearing woman whose husband actually works for me.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
29. I believe you are correct.
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 03:04 PM
Apr 2012

Note that for their "one argument," it is clear that she admits SHE was wrong.

- From someone married to another "uppity atheist pants-wearing woman"

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
4. Reminds me of the tale of the family
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 12:30 PM
Apr 2012

that was so poor that even their maid was poor, their gardener was poor, their nanny was poor and their chauffeur was poor to. Shocking!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
5. "Living on the edge"
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 12:34 PM
Apr 2012

Good lord. And I have no doubt in my mind that Ann Romney really, truly believes that she and Mitt were "living on the edge." I note, just in passing, that she and Mitt "waited four years to have the third." I eagerly await that vile human being's on-air speculation about whether the Romneys were being totally abstinent during those four years, or if Ann was just slutting it up and gulping down birth control pills like vitamins. I mean, because America's radio host is totally fair and right down the middle in telling us all the way things ought to be, right?

marlakay

(11,468 posts)
20. I picked up the same thing
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 01:52 PM
Apr 2012

Sounds like birth control, they were young so no way were they not having sex. But he will just say its part of going pro choice to pro life.

He has no problem with changing everything he has done in his past.

Staying home while kids were young, I can relate to that because I did it for 6 years but I had to do full time daycare and sell Tupperware living off of stocks and investments isn't exactly struggling..

deminks

(11,014 posts)
7. Waited four years to have the third? That, my dear, is birth control.
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 12:48 PM
Apr 2012

How will the Santorum wing of the pubbies react? Will Rash Limbaugh call her a slut? /sarcasm off.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
8. Living off of Investments is NOT living on the edge
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 12:50 PM
Apr 2012

"Mitt had enough of an investment from stock that we could sell off a little at a time"

"it wasn't much, a few thousand" PER YEAR!

What I wouldn't have given to have been living on that kind of edge while going to school.

And the media just plays along with that mantra, making is sound like this is how American live.



Mz Pip

(27,445 posts)
11. A few thousand back then was plenty
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 12:58 PM
Apr 2012

I remember working full time in 1971 and making a bit over $500 a month. I also went to school 4 night s a week.

I had to work full fucking time for my few thousand a year. No investments to cash in on, just a full time job reading printouts for the phone company.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
22. LMAO, that jumped out at me too.
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 01:59 PM
Apr 2012

Aww... having to scrape by on the thousands and thousands of dollars daddy invested for you that then multiplied over and over.

Must have been eating Ramen that whole time, I'm sure.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
24. Ramen does not just come in a box or package
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 02:02 PM
Apr 2012

Maybe they were eating Ramen, but not like you and I recall eating Ramen during our college days.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
33. I like how she clarifies it was his "birthday money"
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 03:21 PM
Apr 2012

like it was a yearly scrawly, hand-written 5 dollar birthday check from grandma that was getting invested.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
9. Edge of what, exactly?
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 12:57 PM
Apr 2012

The edge of upper class, falling into upper middle class?

The horror, the horror!

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
13. Now that really pisses me off. College on the GI bill, with 2 babies. We both worked.
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 01:05 PM
Apr 2012

We had savings, too. I could make 1 chicken last 5 meals. Chicken for 2 nights then chicken and rice soup for 3, cornsticks on the side. Sorry, we didn't have any stocks to cash in. I couldn't stay home with the babies.

I started a vegetable garden right beside my building in married student housing. I didn't ask anybody since I pretty much knew they'd say no. But we had to eat healthy food. The kids had to eat healthy food. So it was just a little strip about 2 feet wide that ran the length of the apartment building. The guys who mowed just waved and smiled and let me know they'd leave it be.

Pretty soon somebody else did the same thing. And another person. It was kind of fun, really, since none of us knew much about gardening. We had too much of some things nad not enough of others so we traded and it was good.

But Mrs. Romney can go to hell.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
15. She is comparing camping in the backyard to surviving in the wilderness
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 01:23 PM
Apr 2012

Her parents were rich, Mitt's parents were rich; if they ever actually faced a crisis they always knew they had help a phone call away.

Initech

(100,079 posts)
16. They had to sell some stock to live - the horror!!!
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 01:29 PM
Apr 2012

Try working two or three jobs and going to school full time Ann - because that's the reality that most of us have to deal with. They truly are completely clueless in how the rest of the world works - and they want to be our leaders. Fuck them.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
21. Poor things couldn't "entertain."
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 01:58 PM
Apr 2012


My god, we were happy to scrape up the money for a 6 pack to share with our downstairs neighbors in married student housing on a Friday night. That was our entertainment.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
27. Oh my FUCK
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 02:24 PM
Apr 2012

that one comment made me want to leap through my computer.

I can't even have my parents over, and my kids can't have friends over because I'm mentally calculating how much each extra person is going to cost in food and realizing it's out of my budget this month. And next month. Oh, I'd like to have a few words with her.

Biggest out of touch hypocrites on the planet.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
28. Oh thank god somebody else
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 02:46 PM
Apr 2012

understands. One time I saved to buy a ham. I was so excited. I cooked it and had some sweet potatoes turnip greens and cornbread to go with it.

We were ready to eat and my husband invites the neighbors. Two adults, 2 kids. I gave him a look. Later on he asked why I didn't want to share. I told him that was our food for most of the week that the neighbors just ate.

If they reciprocated it would be bologna sandwiches or if we were lucky some scrambled eggs. And they didn't reciprocate anyway.

So, I wound up making soup with the ham bone.

Ian_rd

(2,124 posts)
30. Choosing not to have a job and cashing out stocks instead.
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 03:13 PM
Apr 2012

Some people call that luxurious retirement. Romneys consider that poverty-like edge-living.

No. Effing. Clue.

Smilo

(1,944 posts)
31. The Stepford wife goes to college..........
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 03:14 PM
Apr 2012

you know she was bloody lucky to go to college - what a waste.............

I couldn't afford it - but I have worked hard and have been employed since.

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
34. I always though we were relatively well-off in college
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 03:35 PM
Apr 2012

Both Mr. Retrograde and I had scholarships and loans to cover tuition and books, and decent-paying (i.e., a little above minimum wage) jobs to cover living expenses. What was even better, we had flexible hours so we could schedule around classes, and could work full time during term breaks and summers and save up a bit of a cushion for the next school year. Rent was high, but the apartments that catered to students were furnished with the basics, and with four people splitting the rent it wasn't bad. Ramen hadn't become popular in our neck of the woods, but you could buy off-brand pot pies for $0.12 on sale, and liven them up with extra hot sauce packets from Taco Bell. Few of our friends had cars - too expensive, and at the time some financial aid was conditional on not having one - but we got by by cadging the occasional ride to the big, cheaper grocery. Health costs were covered by the school, so we didn't worry about health insurance. No children, so no costs there, either.

Of course, this was 40 some years ago, before tuitions even at state schools when through the roof and jobs were at a premium.

tblue37

(65,377 posts)
35. Wow--this is soooo out of touch!
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 04:46 AM
Apr 2012
"But he invested Mitt's birthday money year to year -- it wasn't much, a few thousand<emphasis added>. . . ."

Ann, dear, most Americans don't get a few thousand dollars in birthday money every year, and most Americans would consider a windfall of a few thousand dollars in any given year--much less every year to be "much" indeed!
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