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Atrios (Duncan Black) has been doing a countdown of the worst wanktacular pundits, commentators, chattering heads and all-around wankers. Being a wanker isn't about being RW, but rather being RW in the name of centrism, "seriousness" and "common sense" without even knowing that everything you say is debunked RW gibberish.
The king (or queen) wanker will be announced tomorrow. See if you can guess who it will be.
Here are the honorees thus far:
Wanker of the decade ? ? ?
1st runner up Fred Hiatt
2nd runner up Andrew Sullivan
3rd runner up Joe Klein
4th runner up Mark Halperin
5th runner up William Saletan
6th runner up Jonah Goldberg
7th runner up Diane Sawyer
8th runner up Richard Cohen
9th runner up Megan McArdle
http://eschatonblog.com/
http://www.eschatonblog.com/2012/04/no-wanker-today_12.html
(I am leaning toward the departed David Broder because he was the definition of Wankerism. Krugman and others refer to the embrace of utterly wrong RW myths in the name of centrism "High Broderism"
asjr
(10,479 posts)cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)Daniel537
(1,560 posts)Is there any actual good pundit?
RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)Why is she on this list??
It may as well have David Gregory then. The latest Crossroads commercial is using Gregory's Meet the Press interview where he goes after David Plouffe (for no reason whatsoever)
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)Pundit is my word choice for the headline, given the limited space.
Blizter, Gregory and such are eligible.
(The "wanker of the day" today, not part of the countdown, is Chris Wallace.)
RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)Demonaut
(8,918 posts)DCKit
(18,541 posts)But with the likes of Krauthammer, Brooks, Coulter... OMG, the list just goes on, and on, and on, and on....
It's not the individuals so much as the culture.
Additionally, I've heard so many of them refer to themselves as "pundints" over the past couple of years, I'm wondering if it isn't' code for "one who reads their talking points from RNC faxes during interviews" and not our traditional definition of "pundit".
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,596 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Three words.. Applebee's salad bar..
http://crooksandliars.com/2008/06/03/memo-to-david-brooks-applebees-doesnt-have-a-salad-bar
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Worst pundit since Robert Novakula.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,320 posts)For the other, it depends on whether he's judging more on "attempts to look reasonable, while in reality being a wanker" (which clearly he isn't always, since Goldberg never tries to look like anything other than right wing), which might point to, say, David Brooks, or "just is a complete, 100% wanker", in which case some wingnuts such as Bill Kristol could be in with a shout. It looks like he's not bothering with blowhards like O'Reilly, Limbaugh or Hannity anyway, or one would have appeared already, surely.
Junkdrawer
(27,993 posts)Caused more real damage than anyone I can think of offhand.
Junkdrawer
(27,993 posts)lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)What a dip.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)I can't stand that slimy bastard
deacon
(5,967 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)The lack of Fux News pundits disqualifies this list. Garbage.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)The very worst pundits are the stealth conservatives that have a surface gloss of neutrality but invariably manage to spout right wing talking points in an oh-so-reasonable manner.
David Broder was very possibly the most accomplished of these weasels.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)The (unstated) criterion is more like most respected and self-congratulatorily "reasonable" while spouting gibberish.
It's a difference.
In terms of the most horrible individual statements, Limabugh, Coulter, Malkin, Hannity, etc. would win.
But in terms of insidiousness and being symptomatic of a diseased culture, the David Broders and Joe Kleins and Wolf Blizters are much more dangerous.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,320 posts)Her fall from 'grace' may disqualify her, however. She didn't get away with it for the full decade.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)And while The Queen of All Fucking Iraq has been silenced for a few years, during her active wanking tenure over the last decade, she managed to almost single-handedly help stampede public opinion in favor of invading Iraq. Her wankery convinced many an otherwise canny person to come down in favor of invasion, helping to waste so much money and so many lives, as well as give us the spectacle of a high White House official engaging in treason to help the lies along. An admirable record, indeed, for such a foreshortened resume.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)LeftishBrit
(41,205 posts)In the UK, I think it would be Melanie Phillips. But then there's Ed West, and Richard Littlejohn, and Peter Hitchens, and James Delingpole, and Cristina Odone, and Simon Heffer, and....
Enrique
(27,461 posts)may the wanker rest in peace.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Surprised that nobody mentioned Mr. Bowtie, Tucker, but maybe he doesn't deserve to be even on the list.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,320 posts)http://www.eschatonblog.com/2012/04/wanker-of-decade-1st-runner-up.html
And, since those published in the WP include some of the other nominees (Broder, Kristol, Novak, Will), and with this comment - "this award is for wanking, not pure wingerism" - I feel Friedman is a shoe-in for the uncoveted top spot.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)gauguin57
(8,138 posts)... because he backs up his approach with WHERE he got his information. And he's relatively calm and reasonable. Unlike 99.99999 percent of Fox reporters and right-wing radio stooges ... Who scream and shake a piece of paper in front of the microphone and claim to have ironclad facts courtesy of a fax from the Official Certified Right Wing Conservatory of Head Up Their Butts.
George Will and I disagree on just about everything, but I'd like to see other conservative pundits present their arguments in the same reasonable manner. At least we could have a discussion, then, and not always be yelling at each other on the basis of lies and more lies.
Just my humble opinion.
taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)He's completely wrong on almost every issue.
David Gregory is really bad too. It's obvious he has a hard on for Mittens.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Alan Dershowitz, Andrew Breitbart, Matt Drudge--so many names . . .
Initech
(100,079 posts)Of all the commentators on Fux Propaganda - he is easily the most unbearable. He's the reason the über-rich continue to get away with their shit. No matter what the issue - he takes the corporate / CEO side and whatever the people who actually do the work do is bad. His line of thinking is why we're stuck with the most horrible governors in American history like Jan Brewer, Scott Walker, and Chris Christie. Fuck him and everyone who thinks like him.