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Powerful graphic regarding racism (Original Post) OneGrassRoot Apr 2012 OP
That is very powerful lunatica Apr 2012 #1
Amazing and so very true about what we go through as black Americans on a daily basis. K&R!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2012 #2
Powerful and true. MarianJack Apr 2012 #3
Very succinct. JNelson6563 Apr 2012 #4
Duluth, Minnesota has another powerful message for white people: qb Apr 2012 #5
Thank you very much for sharing this. OneGrassRoot Apr 2012 #6
Good one klook Apr 2012 #9
"Too many people either believe that our racism problems have been solved or they just don't care." Jamaal510 Apr 2012 #24
It has taken... GTurck Apr 2012 #7
Thank you for your honesty. OneGrassRoot Apr 2012 #8
If you do it for all men, it's sexism, not racism. n/t OnlinePoker Apr 2012 #10
The saddest part is OriginalGeek Apr 2012 #17
Was just thinking the same thing. n/t Beartracks Apr 2012 #29
That is everything. Neoma Apr 2012 #30
never understood this woolldog Apr 2012 #22
Interesting. I don't do that (I'm a white woman). Honeycombe8 Apr 2012 #32
Wow! If possible, would you send this to me on FB? I hadn't seen it; tried babylonsister Apr 2012 #11
I'm PMing you now. n/t OneGrassRoot Apr 2012 #16
I try to remind friends that you wouldn't say Historic NY Apr 2012 #12
Nail. Head. Hit it. (speculation of course from a white guy) pasto76 Apr 2012 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author marshall gaines Apr 2012 #14
bravo marshall gaines Apr 2012 #15
I'm a bit of a stinker sometimes Mattylock Apr 2012 #20
LOL! OneGrassRoot Apr 2012 #21
i'm sure marshall gaines Apr 2012 #38
Is this really an issue? drm604 Apr 2012 #23
well marshall gaines Apr 2012 #36
Your point? drm604 Apr 2012 #39
I try to imagine what it must be like, drm604 Apr 2012 #18
I don't know... OneGrassRoot Apr 2012 #19
Truthfully, I have faced a similar conundrum. nt AverageJoe90 Apr 2012 #35
kick for afternoon crowd n/t OneGrassRoot Apr 2012 #25
K&R for the evening crowd! Mnemosyne Apr 2012 #26
Excellent malaise Apr 2012 #27
powerful and amazing etherealtruth Apr 2012 #28
K&R for sure nt FightForChange Apr 2012 #31
K&R Hatchling Apr 2012 #33
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #34
Meh yeah I'm worried about the future but I'm mad about the past too SweetieD Apr 2012 #37
sweet marshall gaines Apr 2012 #40
Yep, I see what you're saying. OneGrassRoot Apr 2012 #41
yep marshall gaines Apr 2012 #42

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
3. Powerful and true.
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 08:06 AM
Apr 2012

My African American son is now starting to be watched in stores. He's 12 and doesn't have a dishonest bone in his body. It really pisses me off!

PEACE!

qb

(5,924 posts)
5. Duluth, Minnesota has another powerful message for white people:
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 08:35 AM
Apr 2012

http://unfaircampaign.org/

We need to see more messages like the OP and this. Too many people either believe that our racism problems have been solved or they just don't care.

klook

(12,155 posts)
9. Good one
Reply to qb (Reply #5)
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 09:52 AM
Apr 2012

... and a daily reality that's disputed by many, many white Americans.

It's as though we've lived our whole lives in a room with a funny smell. It's almost impossible to recognize the smell, until somebody comes in from outside or until we step into a different environment and way of thinking.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
24. "Too many people either believe that our racism problems have been solved or they just don't care."
Reply to qb (Reply #5)
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 12:31 PM
Apr 2012

*cough* Herman Cain *cough*

GTurck

(826 posts)
7. It has taken...
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 08:49 AM
Apr 2012

me a while to learn this. As a white woman I often have clutched my purse closer when near a young man alone in an elevator. Never thought about it except as self-protection but not how it effected the young man: black or white. This is racism so deep we don't even know it is there.

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
8. Thank you for your honesty.
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 08:55 AM
Apr 2012

The racism and bigotry is institutionalized in our country (and others).

To me, those who vehemently deny it exists -- and are sincere in that delusional belief -- are the ones who are most dangerous, as they give silent permission for the hatred to continue.

And there are many who fall into that category.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
17. The saddest part is
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 10:45 AM
Apr 2012

if she gets mugged or raped in that elevator she will be told she should have been "more aware" she should have "known better" she should have "taken precautions" but if she does all those things then she's sexist.

Neoma

(10,039 posts)
30. That is everything.
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 07:05 PM
Apr 2012

For women, it is almost ALWAYS damned if you do, damned if you don't in one degree or another.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
22. never understood this
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 11:37 AM
Apr 2012

not criticizing you GTurk but I never understood what clutching a purse tighter would accomplish. If someone wants to take it i can't imagine that would discourage them much.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
32. Interesting. I don't do that (I'm a white woman).
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 10:39 PM
Apr 2012

If I'm walking down a street in the dark, which is rare for me, I guess I would do that when passing by anyone, especially a male. If he's black, would I brace myself more? Maybe. It more depends on how he's dressed, how he's walking, his age, etc.

This is a precaution that women have to take, though. We are often targeted by men for crimes of all sorts. By men of all races, but particularly white and black men. I don't hear of many Asian rapists or muggers. Maybe that's just because there aren't many Asians where I live.

babylonsister

(171,066 posts)
11. Wow! If possible, would you send this to me on FB? I hadn't seen it; tried
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 10:19 AM
Apr 2012

to post from here, but that's never as effective.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
12. I try to remind friends that you wouldn't say
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 10:23 AM
Apr 2012

to your buddies of color, what you would say behind their backs....they usually choke back the words. I think so much is ingrained. I give them the look reminding them they might just slip up one day and that would be regretfull.

pasto76

(1,589 posts)
13. Nail. Head. Hit it. (speculation of course from a white guy)
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 10:33 AM
Apr 2012

but as a subject of the PTSD stigma, last few years, I can begin to truly empathize with any other discrimination. Black soldiers in my platoon literally pulled me from deaths jaws. Fury is what I feel when people do or say racist shit.

Response to OneGrassRoot (Original post)

 

marshall gaines

(347 posts)
15. bravo
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 10:39 AM
Apr 2012
sad part about it is there are some(many?)that could care less about this truth. and don't forget locking car door as you walk past.

Mattylock

(40 posts)
20. I'm a bit of a stinker sometimes
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 11:28 AM
Apr 2012

I'm a black female living in Oklahoma City and when I'm in my car at an intersection with a lot of foot traffic, I'll look over at the white people on the corner and lock my doors...lol... You should see the facial expressions on the ones that notice. Priceless.

 

marshall gaines

(347 posts)
38. i'm sure
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 09:39 AM
Apr 2012

I used, 'you people' in mixed company toward a known racist recently, just to see the reaction. Had nerve enough to get angry, tried to hide it though. Man, the expression he tried to hide.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
39. Your point?
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 10:55 AM
Apr 2012

Seriously, I always lock them when I get in the car. Maybe I just don't realize, but I never would have thought that a lot of people drive around with their doors unlocked.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
18. I try to imagine what it must be like,
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 10:58 AM
Apr 2012

especially the part about the children.

I try to put myself in the shoes of African-Americans but I just can't totally imagine it from within my white skin.

But I do understand that people get angry, and I understand why.

I worry that I may inadvertently do something that will be misunderstood. I sometimes find myself going out of my way to be polite, to hold doors, and to demonstrate in one way or another that I don't fear people, but then I worry that I might be coming off as being patronizing.

And then I realize that, hey, that's all about me, my feelings, my not wanting to be seen as racist and fearful, and this issue isn't about me is it? After all, I have it easy.

How the hell do I get past all of that and just treat people as people?

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
19. I don't know...
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 11:15 AM
Apr 2012

The subject is one I have never shied away from, having grown up in a very racist family...though I am no longer in touch with them.

I believe it must be discussed, repeatedly, as allowing people to say that racism and bigotry aren't a big deal in this country is very dangerous, imho.

Yet doing so as a white female, I realize my speaking up in and of itself could be viewed as condescending, even if my intentions are authentic.

I hear you about worrying you'll do something or say something that can be perceived as offensive in some way, or that you'll conversely be viewed as patronizing. I've gone through stages when I worried about the same.

Now, I guess I've released that worry and just go with the flow, doing my best. I can't help how others perceive what I do or say. I can't walk on eggshells like that any more.







SweetieD

(1,660 posts)
37. Meh yeah I'm worried about the future but I'm mad about the past too
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 09:36 AM
Apr 2012

I don't really like this graphic. Anyone who has any knowledge of history should be mad. Its not some noble thing not to be angry about all the injustices that happened in the past to our ancestors. I'm not going to say I'm not upset that slavery happened to make a white person feel better or more comfortable, give me a break. The current state of black people in this country did not happen all on its own or in a vacuum. Its all directly related to slavery, the purposeful demolishing of the nadir of race relations, jim crow, and all of the other racial inequalities. If you don't know your history, you are doomed to repeat it. So yes I'm upset about the past, and worry about the future.

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
41. Yep, I see what you're saying.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:06 PM
Apr 2012

I get the point of the graphic, but tweaking it or adding a line that addresses your point would make it much more powerful.

History is important, not only because it has led to the institutionalized, systemic racism in our country today. That IS something to be mad about.





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