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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy does JimRob over at FR have such a hatred for Mitt Romney?
I know he didn't like John McCain either, but he supported him.
Yet, JimRob is so far holding firm to his commitment not to support Romney (and calls him an "abortionist/socialist constitution trampling liar" and a "RINO" . And by the looks of it, it seems that half or more of the Freepers agree with their leader.
So, why would they fall into line for McCain and not Romney?
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)47of74
(18,470 posts)southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)backscatter712
(26,355 posts)southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)because it will upset my stomach.
brucefan
(1,549 posts)David__77
(23,418 posts)It makes total sense.
loudsue
(14,087 posts)huh?
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)emilyg
(22,742 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)JI7
(89,250 posts)i said this before that with McCain you can at least feel he gave something where you can vote for him. his serving in the military and being pow.
Romney lacks this thing of having given something. of having done something for others regardless of how much it has to do with being president. the dog thing doesn't help either because even some wingnuts have dogs.
it's more a personal feeling where they are turned off by him.
hlthe2b
(102,283 posts)No real idea....Except he is so pathologically averse to Liberal/Progressives that the fact Romney was governor of the detested Massachusetts sends him over the edge.
2ndAmForComputers
(3,527 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Repost of http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002537660#post1
You have the money faction, which wants deregulation and very little else.
You have the militantly religious faction, which basically wants to end sex and mandate their flavor of Christianity.
You have the paranoid conspiracy-theorist "libertarian" faction which basically wants to make sure the government does absolutely nothing, ever.
And you have the bigot faction which wants to be told that their problems in life are the fault of the blacks and the Mexicans, and feel better about themselves by oppressing someone else.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)In same order as yours ...
1) Corporatists
2) Neocon war mongers
3) Fiscial conservatives
4) Social conservatives.
I see the religious aspect running through each of these in a different way.
Again by group ...
1) Being rich is God's reward to you, if you aren't rich, God intended it.
2) God grants this group the power of manifest destiny. You will impose your God on all others, by force if needed.
3) Afraid that the government will take away your God.
4) God grants you the ability to look down on, judge, and control, those who don't share your narrow Christian world view (the scary other).
The groups overlap some. And 1 and 3, and 2 and 4 tend to like each other.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)I have noticed that 3 supports 1 because they think they too may someday be in that category.
4 I get, being one-issue voters in many cases (eg abortion). The irony is that this group seems to overlook the reality of 2 yet still claim to be "pro life".
Much overlap between these motivators because it has been couched that way for 30 years. Issues (4) have been hijacked in order to drive people to vote against their own economic interests (1 and 3).
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)And yes, group 3 thinks its going to be group 1, but usually their ideas are insane and would never receive funding.
My view on the 2 and 4 connection is that in both cases, GOD has granted you the power to apply his will on the "evil doers". Group 2 "applies" that power across the globe. Group 4 "applies" it to the local populace, while also supporting group 2's efforts to "apply" it more broadly.
As for the "pro-life" part, that's just a label for the abortion debate. They disconnect the phrase "pro-life" from all of their other world views. God gives a woman a baby. God decides who gets pregnant.
After that, the faithful get to judge and decide who eats, who lives and who dies. God gave them that power.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)Thanks.
jp11
(2,104 posts)Kiteo, his eyes closed.
Tamarian is more easily understood than Freep.
annm4peace
(6,119 posts)He and his little crew protested us, Peace Fresno. The are small minded and not very intelligent.
It was sad to watch them.
He really isn't part of the Republican. they used him when he can gather some support and then drop him and his friends from the party list when they don't need him.
Guy Montag
(126 posts)This time around, Jimrob is not getting funds from the GOP to do an 180 degree turn on Romney like he did when he went from a GW Bush baiter and hater to a part of the NeoCon fan club.
If you give the gratuities, Jim Robinson, his son John and others are always glad to help a candidate. But they do nothing like that for free.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)and did a fair amount in the 2008 campaign. Romney's got tons of baggage from his run for the US Senate against Ted Kennedy in 1994. Much of it is well reported in the press of the time, and a lot of the video has hit YouTube. It's there for everyone to see that he was trying desperately to look like he was not so very far from Teddy, and he seemed to continue that sort of talk on the way to becoming Massachusetts governor.
So, the question arises: Is he really a trustworthy conservative, raised by a wealthy father in a conservative Mormon household? If so, then he proved that he was able to lie like a rug in order to get votes. The fact that Romney paid even lip service to so many 'liberal' ideas is what makes him suspect in the eyes of the true believers.
Robinson got his panties in a bunch over Romney four years ago, and some longtime Mormon members of the site were booted off. Besides, the whole Mormon/fundie argument thing over at Freeperland finally convinced Robinson that the fundies were right, Mormonism is a dangerous cult. Mitt may have backed off of Romneycare, but he's still putting out that he's a true-believing Mormon, and that just adds gasoline to the fires of hate that Robinson has for him, and any other Rethug he considers to be a severe RINO. I remember how happy he was to see Rudy Giuliani drop out of the 2004 race.
Purity is everything to the remaining Freepers.
Rosco T.
(6,496 posts).. this is bad how?
MidwestTransplant
(8,015 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)would respect that Romney is just taking his game to a larger level. Both are con artists, Romney's just doing it in an election rather than perpetual fundraisers.
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)LoTechGuru
(30 posts)but supported him after he was "elected". I figure he will do the same with Mittens.
chollybocker
(3,687 posts)Rimjob cries poverty, then wipes his tears on cheeto-stained sleeves.
It must be hard for him to admit that he's been wrong for 50-some years. I wonder how many McCain/Palin voters will be sitting this one out.
creeksneakers2
(7,473 posts)I hope all the freepers and right wing freaks stay home on election day.
Rex
(65,616 posts)He is one of the original Internet Trolls. Someone so full of shit that they believe it themselves and then start to believe in themselves. He found similar fools that felt the same way and it was off to the races!
Maybe he is Pigman's new Oxy drug pimp so doesn't need his old gig anymore.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)His ideal candidate would be the better pieces of David Duke, George Lincoln Rockwell and Jesse Helms.
LAGC
(5,330 posts)If Ronald Reagan was alive and running today, he'd be tarred and feathered by these people for being "too liberal."
Bill Maher was right. The left has moved to the center, and the right has boarded the crazy-train.
TheManInTheMac
(985 posts)is to read his Romney rants and watch him then verbally abuse and ban long-time members while begging them for money.
Daniel537
(1,560 posts)Really Epic stuff.
Daniel537
(1,560 posts)I don't even think Romney himself knows what position he's going to take this afternoon, let alone next year if he were to win.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)that's the best I can come up with.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)He and his sheep are just pissed the rest of the pukes cannot see the sheer brilliance of having Cain or Newt as their candidate. Remember these are same braindead assholes who think Palin could beat the President. Let him rage - he and his teabagging friends are finding out just how irrelevant they are to their own party.