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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 02:53 AM Oct 2014

Senate’s inquiry into CIA torture sidesteps blaming Bush, aides

WASHINGTON — A soon-to-be released Senate report on the CIA doesn’t assess the responsibility of former President George W. Bush or his top aides for any of the abuses of the agency’s detention and interrogation program, avoiding a full public accounting of one of the darkest chapters of the war on terror.

“This report is not about the White House. It’s not about the president. It’s not about criminal liability. It’s about the CIA’s actions or inactions,” said a person familiar with the document, who asked not to be further identified because the executive summary – the only part to that will be made public – still is in the final stages of declassification.

The Senate Intelligence Committee report also didn’t examine the responsibility of top Bush administration lawyers in crafting the legal framework that permitted the CIA to use simulated drowning called waterboarding and other interrogation methods widely described as torture, McClatchy has learned.

“It does not look at the Bush administration’s lawyers to see if they were trying to literally do an end run around justice and the law,” the person said.

As a result, the $40 million, five-year inquiry passed up what may be the final opportunity to render an official verdict on the culpability of Bush, former Vice President Dick Cheney and other senior officials for the program, in which suspected terrorists were abducted, sent to secret overseas prisons, and subjected to the harsh interrogation techniques.

“If it’s the case that the report doesn’t really delve into the White House role, then that’s a pretty serious indictment of the report,” said Elizabeth Goitein, the co-director of the Brennan Center for Justice’s Liberty and National Security Program at the New York University Law School. “Ideally it should come to some sort of conclusions on whether there were legal violations and if so, who was responsible.”


Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/10/16/243669_senates-inquiry-into-cia-torture.html?sp=/99/100/&rh=1#storylink=cpy

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Senate’s inquiry into CIA torture sidesteps blaming Bush, aides (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Oct 2014 OP
good a time as any to put this behind us. we do need to look ahead reddread Oct 2014 #1
Gee, I can't imagine why Congress lacks credibility, can you? dixiegrrrrl Oct 2014 #2
Whitewash ReRe Oct 2014 #3
Money and investigations. Ichingcarpenter Oct 2014 #4
Hell... ReRe Oct 2014 #5
You only conduct SamKnause Oct 2014 #6
+1 million hobbit709 Oct 2014 #7
Out of all the stuff that's come out since 2000, this is the worst. Octafish Oct 2014 #8
just so we know questionseverything Oct 2014 #13
Run along, brave American! johnnyreb Oct 2014 #9
"A lot of those folks were working hard under enormous pressure and are real patriots." Obama Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2014 #10
Thumbs up! Octafish Oct 2014 #11
It's like reading the frakking "Onion." woo me with science Oct 2014 #12
But of course! ANYTHING to cover for the crimes of the BFEE. Rex Oct 2014 #14

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
2. Gee, I can't imagine why Congress lacks credibility, can you?
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 06:07 AM
Oct 2014

Unless, of course, the CIA was operating on its own, independent of Congress, the president and the public oversight, as suggested in the article:
“This report is not about the White House. It’s not about the president. It’s not about criminal liability. It’s about the CIA’s actions or inactions,”

Hmmmmm

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
3. Whitewash
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 06:17 AM
Oct 2014

Nothing more than a 5-yr, $40 Million, 6,000 page, 35,000 footnoted whitewash and all we get to see is a lousy "Executive Summary." Kabuki theater. Kangaroo Court. On paper.

Look it... when the accused investigates himself, what do you think he's going to find?
I want my money back.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
4. Money and investigations.
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 07:05 AM
Oct 2014

Amount of money allocated for the 1986 Challenger disaster investigation: $75 million

Amount of money allocated for the 2004 Columbia disaster investigation: $50 million

Amount of money allocated for Clinton-Lewinsky investigation: $40 million


Amount of money allocated for CIA torture report $40 million.


Amount of money allocated for the 9/11 Commission: $14 million.

The worse and largest intelligence and defense failure in the history of the United States...think about that




http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=49d_1190054204

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
5. Hell...
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 07:18 AM
Oct 2014

My mind wondered back to the Warren Report. And yes, to the 9/11 Commission. Every single time, nothing but whitewash.

I wonder how our Constitution would read if all the loopholes were written in? T'would be comical.

SamKnause

(13,110 posts)
6. You only conduct
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 07:34 AM
Oct 2014

investigations if you are looking for the truth.

The Powers that Be who control the U.S. are not interested in the truth. (9/11 'investigation', Wall Street 'investigations')

Investigations in the U.S. equal wasted tax dollars !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The corruption, greed, and illegal activities go all the way up the chain.

They will never been punished.

They will never see the inside of a courtroom.

They will be praised and exalted when they die.

Rinse and repeat.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
8. Out of all the stuff that's come out since 2000, this is the worst.
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 09:24 AM
Oct 2014

It shows members of the BFEE -- and their "Money trumps peace" credo -- are above the law.

johnnyreb

(915 posts)
9. Run along, brave American!
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 12:16 PM
Oct 2014

"Executive Summary"....

Can't see the full torture report, can't see The 28 Pages, can't see supporting documents for the 9/11 Commission Report or NIST report, or those other reports you made us do, can't see all those state secrets, oh yeh and those government contractor and those product liability cases are state secret too, and oh hell no you don't even wanna un-gag that nut Sibel; can't see the FBI records that we can't find anyway, can't see the NSA wiretapping info, can't see TPP, can't see the trade secret voting machine stuff or the fracking stuff but that's not our fault. Energy Commission, torture kid pictures, White House logs? that's old stuff everyone's tired of hearing about anyway, and ya can't see those other documents from that other stuff neither! But do keep an eye on any monkey business!

song: BetterKeepAnEyeOnHim.mp3

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
12. It's like reading the frakking "Onion."
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 01:49 PM
Oct 2014

Except that this is now our reality.

Kicking and reccing for CORRUPTION.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
14. But of course! ANYTHING to cover for the crimes of the BFEE.
Fri Oct 17, 2014, 04:42 PM
Oct 2014

There would be no CIA report, IF BUSH AND CHENEY had decided not to go and illegally invade Iraq! Sad, but predictable. Of course I don't expect shit from Congress...they seem to be nothing more than a paper tiger.

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