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Omaha Steve

(99,706 posts)
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 10:34 PM Oct 2014

I'm a meat eater & animal lover, this is for my vegan friends


http://certifiedhumane.org/

OUR MISSION

Humane Farm Animal Care (HFAC) is the leading non-profit certification organization dedicated to improving the lives of farm animals in food production from birth through slaughter.

The goal of the program is to improve the lives of farm animals by driving consumer demand for kinder and more responsible farm animal practices.

When you see the Certified Humane Raised and Handled® label on a product you can be assured that the food products have come from facilities that meet precise, objective standards for farm animal treatment.

Much more at link.


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I'm a meat eater & animal lover, this is for my vegan friends (Original Post) Omaha Steve Oct 2014 OP
thanks Beringia Oct 2014 #1
k&r for our animals uppityperson Oct 2014 #2
k & r. Love this. nt bunnies Oct 2014 #3
Good job BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #4
But are the animals killed humanely? n/t RebelOne Oct 2014 #29
Thank you for this beam me up scottie Oct 2014 #5
We really need to eat less meat in this country... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #6
you are welcome to eat less meat if you want to. I'm not giving up meat. liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #8
We have a few farms around here murielm99 Oct 2014 #11
You can always toss some meat on top of the chow mein.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #13
I agree Americans eat way too much meat and hardly any veggies. mackerel Oct 2014 #9
It is beef stew, chili, and chicken noodle soup season. Yum. liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #10
Most are Stuck With Veggies that Traveled Thousands of Miles on a Truck AndyTiedye Oct 2014 #16
I cook a lot of Chinese and some Thai from scratch hifiguy Oct 2014 #25
Why Overcook the Spaghetti? AndyTiedye Oct 2014 #12
There's LOTS of variations. Whole wheat noodles tend to be tough and chewy... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #14
You lost me at over cooked gummy whole wheat pasta. alphafemale Oct 2014 #18
You can use regular noodles too.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #24
Oh, I love it. Those of us who eat meat have been waiting a long, long, long time for liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #7
I'm not sure why vegans need to see this? LeftyMom Oct 2014 #15
Titled this way to get meat eaters attention Omaha Steve Oct 2014 #20
Exactly HERVEPA Oct 2014 #27
I laughed scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #17
Thank you madokie Oct 2014 #19
This is great! Last Christmas.... Adrahil Oct 2014 #21
Ghoulish phil89 Oct 2014 #28
This year we raised UncleYoder Oct 2014 #22
I would totally buy a turkey from you, even at double the price. Adrahil Oct 2014 #23
Here's another great link hugo_from_TN Oct 2014 #26
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Oct 2014 #30

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
4. Good job
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 11:00 PM
Oct 2014

Or get to know your farmer. That's the best way to ensure your meat and vegetables are raised the humanely and cleanly. Instead of taking your kids to Disneyland, take them to the farm to find out where their food comes from and let them meet the hardworking people who grow it. They'll love it and will become more connected to their food.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
5. Thank you for this
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 11:05 PM
Oct 2014

Mr bmus is not a vegetarian but does care how farm animals are treated.

If one can afford the extra $ it's worth it.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
6. We really need to eat less meat in this country...
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 01:26 AM
Oct 2014

Might I suggest:

Boil half of a 1 lb package of whole wheat spaghetti noodles for way longer than you think it should take and while that's going on...

Make a sauce from this:

1/4 cup soy sauce
2 tablespoon minced garlic
1 teaspoon molasses
2 teaspoons ginger
1/4 teaspoon pepper (white if you can find it)

Set aside.

Put 2 tablespoons of olive oil in a wok and put in
1 white onion, sliced into thin strips
3 stalks celery, sliced diagonally

Cook that until the onion turns transparent. Then toss in 2 cups of shredded cabbage and let that start to cook down. It shrinks a LOT as it cooks. When it starts to get tender throw the drained noodles on top and the sauce and keep the whole thing moving over a medium high heat (I use a wooden spoon) until everything is blended.

Congrats: You just made your first batch of chow mein.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
8. you are welcome to eat less meat if you want to. I'm not giving up meat.
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 01:33 AM
Oct 2014

I would love to be able to buy meat from a farm that treats the animals in a more humane way though.

murielm99

(30,761 posts)
11. We have a few farms around here
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 01:45 AM
Oct 2014

where all the animals are raised humanely and fed organically. They have such a backlog of customers that they cannot keep up with the demand.

I think this approach, combined with improving standards and a continuing push for humane treatment in large facilities will help us improve how we feed people. Please remember that people who raise livestock, even on a large scale, do not want to see animals mistreated.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
13. You can always toss some meat on top of the chow mein....
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 01:50 AM
Oct 2014

Personally, I do that all the time. Pork marinaded in ketchup and worcestershire sauce with five spice or teriyaki. I do an unbreaded orange chicken using oil and butter with cut up boneless chicken breast. A squirt of honey and a packet of unsweetened orange Koolaid. The idea is to heat the honey so it foams in the butter and oil and carries the Koolaid powder to coat and cook the chicken.

Waiting for a freakout on par with corn flakes.

mackerel

(4,412 posts)
9. I agree Americans eat way too much meat and hardly any veggies.
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 01:34 AM
Oct 2014

I add veggies to everything. I made a pot of chili last night, used 1/2 of the suggested ground turkey and just added loads of veggies, spinach, carrots, celery, cabbage and green beans. I served it over quinoa.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
10. It is beef stew, chili, and chicken noodle soup season. Yum.
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 01:36 AM
Oct 2014

I try to add veggies to every meal as well. I even add veggies to my breakfast by adding asparagus with my eggs.

AndyTiedye

(23,500 posts)
16. Most are Stuck With Veggies that Traveled Thousands of Miles on a Truck
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 02:05 AM
Oct 2014

When we lived in New England, for about 8 months out of the year we could only get vegetables that had traveled 3000 miles on a truck. Most of them weren't very good, and choking down as many of those veggies as one "should" was more than I could do.

The quality of the vegetables increased enormously when we moved to California, and even more so when we started our vegetable garden (which is pretty much a year-round thing here). Also, if you go to the trouble of growing it, you're gonna eat it.

I get cravings for meat when I don't get enough. I get cravings for vegetables when I don't get enough. I listen to both.

I don't think I will reduce my meat consumption any further than I already have.
I do buy free-range, and I completely support the initiative in the OP.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
25. I cook a lot of Chinese and some Thai from scratch
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 11:41 AM
Oct 2014

I am very carnivorous and enjoy a good burger or steak as much as the next guy or gal - but day in and day out I like the Asian principle of using meat as an add-in rather than as the main thing. A 1/2-2/3 fup of marinated meat or fowl in a dish with a wokful of veggies with rice on the side lets me enjoy meat, get a ton of veggies and never feel cheated.

Though there is a time and a place for more meat-based dishes but it doesn't need to be an everyday thing. Moderation is a good thing.

AndyTiedye

(23,500 posts)
12. Why Overcook the Spaghetti?
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 01:48 AM
Oct 2014

I'd substitute green onions for the regular ones.
can make it chicken chow mein with the obvious addition.
Doesn't take much.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
14. There's LOTS of variations. Whole wheat noodles tend to be tough and chewy...
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 02:03 AM
Oct 2014

I'll add water chestnuts, bean sprouts, or even peanuts. The oil can be Canola too. You can also use a tablespoon of brown sugar instead of molasses. I'm sure a lot of people here could experiment.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
18. You lost me at over cooked gummy whole wheat pasta.
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 09:54 AM
Oct 2014

Hell no.

Not going to look like a dog with a mouthful of peanut butter when I eat.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
24. You can use regular noodles too....
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 11:40 AM
Oct 2014

You will hear people say "yakisoba" but that just means “grilled noodles”. Buckwheat is traditional. I've seen angel hair pasta used. Lots of variations, even top ramen minus the flavor packets.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
7. Oh, I love it. Those of us who eat meat have been waiting a long, long, long time for
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 01:32 AM
Oct 2014

something like this. I will keep a lookout for the label.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
15. I'm not sure why vegans need to see this?
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 02:04 AM
Oct 2014

I can't speak for all of us (hell, at this time of night and after watching the NLCS I can barely speak for myself) but the whole point is that I don't really buy into the notion that animals can be used as production units in a humane way.

Omaha Steve

(99,706 posts)
20. Titled this way to get meat eaters attention
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 10:00 AM
Oct 2014

At least they know there is an alternative to mass non-humane farming etc.

Welcome to the humane race.

OS

 

scarystuffyo

(733 posts)
17. I laughed
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 02:10 AM
Oct 2014

Humane Farm Animal Care is the leading non-profit certification organization dedicated to improving the lives of farm animals in food production from birth through slaughter

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
21. This is great! Last Christmas....
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 10:01 AM
Oct 2014

I went to the local butcher to get a good turkey. They were selling pasture kept, cage free turkeys. The butcher told me that I would would never eat a happier bird. LOL. He even had a picture of your particular turkey in the pasture! And it did taste incredibly good.

 

UncleYoder

(233 posts)
22. This year we raised
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 10:11 AM
Oct 2014

150 broilers and 25 turkeys.
I told my friends that we made sure they only had one bad day.
Until that day, they get the best of care and feed.
It doesn't cost anymore to do so.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
23. I would totally buy a turkey from you, even at double the price.
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 11:33 AM
Oct 2014

I think the ethics are worth it, and so if the quality of the bird!

hugo_from_TN

(1,069 posts)
26. Here's another great link
Thu Oct 16, 2014, 12:02 PM
Oct 2014
We Raise All Our Beef Humanely On Open Pasture And Then We Hang Them Upside Down And Slash Their Throats

We here at Nature’s Acres know that the best quality meat comes from the best quality cows. That’s why our line of Angus and heritage Galloway cattle—hand-selected for superior taste and texture—provide ideal, gourmet cuts of beef, which we begin to extract from their still-gurgling and twitching bodies in the 20 to 120 seconds it takes from the initial incision to the moment their brains finally cease functioning. And of course our award-winning beef is flayed and butchered fresh on the spot, allowing the animal’s dangling, inverted brethren to look on with dilated, terror-filled eyes as they slowly advance one-by-one toward an identical and incomprehensibly traumatic fate.
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