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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 02:21 PM Oct 2014

Israelis Chant “N****rs Go Home” Carrying ISIS-Style Flags At Anti-African Rally

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/10/07/video-israelis-chant-nggers-go-home-carrying-isis-style-flags-at-anti-african-rally/

Video footage of Jewish Israelis with ISIS-style flags, chanting “n****rs go home” at an anti-African rally in Tel Aviv on October 5 has surfaced. Hundreds of protesters could be heard in streets of Tel Aviv chanting anti-African racial slurs, following an Israeli High Court ruling to close down “Holot” detention facility within 90 days. Holot is essentially an internment camp holding about 2,300 of 60,000 African asylum seekers in Tel Aviv. Israelis are outraged by the court decision to close “Holot,” where African migrants from Eritrea and Sudan have been locked in facilities overnight and are forced to sign in several times per day....

Seen in the raw footage, Jewish men yell at an African passersby “Go home, go home! Sudanese to Sudan!

African asylum-seekers met the protesters en route and offer them bouquets of roses, but their gestures were aggressively rebuffed and met with the responses,

“Curse your name, you garbage.”

“May you get AIDS, you whore, daughter of a whore.”

“May you be raped, you maniac!”

“You’ll get raped and get AIDS!”

“I spit on you, you garbage!”

“May you be raped, you whore!”

“Fuck you, motherfucker! Piece of shit!”

Chants even ring in English.

“Go back to Africa! Go back to Africa!”

“We hate you as much as we can motherfucker!”

“Go back to Africa! Go back to Africa!”




So I guess Israel is a post-racial society just like us.

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Israelis Chant “N****rs Go Home” Carrying ISIS-Style Flags At Anti-African Rally (Original Post) KamaAina Oct 2014 OP
Is this the feeling of the general society, or... TreasonousBastard Oct 2014 #1
I'm going with the latter. KamaAina Oct 2014 #3
Hopefully just a few assholes. nt ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #4
Assholes with little sense of irony or knowledge of history BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #6
^^THIS^^ 2naSalit Oct 2014 #36
More prevelant than you think. Hell Hath No Fury Oct 2014 #9
This is among the reasons I will never support that racist nation. < n/t jtuck004 Oct 2014 #14
the ones in the OP are a few assholes but the anti immigrant feelings are widespread JI7 Oct 2014 #10
Probably the latter LeftishBrit Oct 2014 #40
This looks like Israel's answer to Westboro to me Takket Oct 2014 #49
Really. Good point, Takket :( Cha Oct 2014 #73
Likud party politicians led an anti-black race riot in Tel aviv in 2012. Scootaloo Oct 2014 #61
+1 lunasun Oct 2014 #63
So they have t-baggers too. But even worse manners. n2doc Oct 2014 #2
"Hopefully the vast majority there repudiate them." Iggo Oct 2014 #5
America has t-baggers, Israel has m-ballers. Efilroft Sul Oct 2014 #24
This is not a new thing in Israel. bravenak Oct 2014 #7
I agree Aerows Oct 2014 #69
This is not new. There are several far right nationalist parties in Israel like Yisrael Beitenu and stevenleser Oct 2014 #8
"Far right nationalism need not be anti-semitic." ???? 2banon Oct 2014 #13
This whole OP is as if this is the first time people are hearing of far right nationalism in Israel stevenleser Oct 2014 #15
Right. But what's any of that got to do with Antisemitism? 2banon Oct 2014 #19
I'm wondering if that's why people are surprised about this and posting as if its news. nt stevenleser Oct 2014 #34
Should people not post it and ask questions Aerows Oct 2014 #68
That's not what I said. stevenleser Oct 2014 #83
Me too. Aerows Oct 2014 #67
This is the first time many people ARE hearing of it.. whathehell Oct 2014 #79
I think you might be confused regarding the surprised responses to the level of bigotry/racism 2banon Oct 2014 #84
No it doesn't need to be. But it usually is Scootaloo Oct 2014 #62
Israeli trailer trash. MynameisBlarney Oct 2014 #11
Context needed: this has been going on for at least three years, with different protestors. ancianita Oct 2014 #12
given history, heaven05 Oct 2014 #16
appalling behavior AtomicKitten Oct 2014 #17
I keep saying Israel is split between the hard Right in power and a very Liberal peace movement. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #18
Unfortunately, the split is 70% hard right, 30% sane. BillZBubb Oct 2014 #54
That's because the Right over there claims the Left will get them all killed.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #56
Doesn't surprise me Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #20
I used to think various countries were full of racists, and others more tolerant. LiberalLovinLug Oct 2014 #21
The Right usually uses wedge issues to get into power.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #46
you're right (or rather correct) LiberalLovinLug Oct 2014 #47
It's like Schwarzenegger in California.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #50
The Ku Klux Klan is now operating in Israel? muntrv Oct 2014 #22
How do they stick the giant Star of David in the ground KamaAina Oct 2014 #23
Now that's funny... Whiskeytide Oct 2014 #37
Hate is reprehensible. nt No Vested Interest Oct 2014 #25
cowards blackliberal84 Oct 2014 #26
Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #27
Does this sound like an "American anti-Israeli bigot" to you? KamaAina Oct 2014 #28
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #33
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #39
I am not the "re-blogger" KamaAina Oct 2014 #52
What is wrong with the conclusions? You yourself say they are protesting "human dignity" arcane1 Oct 2014 #30
Way to perpetuate the view that any criticism of israel in any form is knee-jerk AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #31
They certainly have been working hard at arthritisR_US Oct 2014 #29
Charming. 1monster Oct 2014 #32
Truly. Sorry to see this. calimary Oct 2014 #44
That is some sick shit.... blackspade Oct 2014 #35
kick. Thanks for posting. +1 eom Purveyor Oct 2014 #38
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #41
Welcome to DU chemist1 panader0 Oct 2014 #42
Disgusting! Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #43
It just goes to show Aerows Oct 2014 #45
Sick irony. Ampersand Unicode Oct 2014 #48
OMG...That's ugly. whathehell Oct 2014 #51
I Talked to an Israeli once Dirty Socialist Oct 2014 #53
I was treated like garbage by one (________) fill in the blank, therefore all, fill in the blank, are still_one Oct 2014 #55
He was a Netanyahu supporter Dirty Socialist Oct 2014 #58
I posted the way I did because it read like a generalization still_one Oct 2014 #59
In a way, I was generalizing Dirty Socialist Oct 2014 #60
FWIW, I had a young Israeli woman as a long time roomate years ago & she was terrific. whathehell Oct 2014 #82
Can Harry_Scrote Oct 2014 #57
Depends GummyBearz Oct 2014 #64
Some of the folk are Jewish. KamaAina Oct 2014 #65
Isis=STYLE (???) flags? MADem Oct 2014 #66
Not surprising given the author (and filmmaker's) bias. Behind the Aegis Oct 2014 #70
The comments are just sick! Sissyk Oct 2014 #74
It's just a nasty swirl of hatred--gotta eat those people up, that attitude. nt MADem Oct 2014 #75
racism can be found anywhere TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #71
Sad. What ever happened to "never forget"? n/t raven mad Oct 2014 #72
This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Oct 2014 #78
If they thought they could get away with it JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #76
This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Oct 2014 #77
Jews whose ancestry came from ancient Egypt tell African Jews to "Go back to Africa" MrScorpio Oct 2014 #80
every country has their assholes against human rights. same in the usa with our immigrant prisons. Sunlei Oct 2014 #81

2naSalit

(86,785 posts)
36. ^^THIS^^
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 04:57 PM
Oct 2014

And furthermore, someone please remind me why we are giving them all the $$ we do as well as military aid?

Before anyone decides to go on a flamefest on my comment, it might be worth it to know that I have a serious jewish ancestry and have no remorse for my attitude toward these thankless f**ks.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
9. More prevelant than you think.
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 03:21 PM
Oct 2014

My roommate is bi-racial, Jewish, and lived in Israel for 10+ years. He says that there is significant racism in Israel towards blacks of any region -- Jews from eastern Europe and Russia and the worst, according to him. It was especially bad when he would date a white woman -- he often got derogatory comments from passerbys. He also said that the Palestinians in Israel were the most welcoming to him.

JI7

(89,269 posts)
10. the ones in the OP are a few assholes but the anti immigrant feelings are widespread
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 03:25 PM
Oct 2014

similar to how teabaggers might be a few but there are enough idiots in the country who will believe ebola is a threat because of the mexican border and other stupid shit.

LeftishBrit

(41,212 posts)
40. Probably the latter
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 05:12 PM
Oct 2014

Racism and anti-immigrant sentiment are a big problem in most societies, and Israel is no exception; but this sort of vicious extremism is a minority taste. Just as many Brits are anti-immigrant and somewhat racist, but only a minority join hate-groups like the BNP and EDL.

Depressing, of course, that anyone acts like that.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
61. Likud party politicians led an anti-black race riot in Tel aviv in 2012.
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 09:05 PM
Oct 2014

Miri Regev called Africans in israel a "cancer." Danny Danon claimed they had "established an enemy state." Michael Ben-Ari called for mass imprisonment. even Kadima got in on the fun, putting up Ronit Tiros who called fpr expulsions.

That night riotors burned shops, smashed cars, assaulted men and women.

all of the politicians still serve in the Knesset. Not even reprimands from their respective parties.

Dunno if Israeli society in general is as anti-black as these guys are - but Israeli society doesn't seem to particularly mind. Just as it didn't really mind open fascists attacking left-wing demonstrators during the latest Gaza turkey-shoot.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
2. So they have t-baggers too. But even worse manners.
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 02:25 PM
Oct 2014

Hopefully the vast majority there repudiate them .

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
7. This is not a new thing in Israel.
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 02:43 PM
Oct 2014

Remember when they had a member of the Knesset at one of the go home ni$$er rallies? Yeah. I do.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
8. This is not new. There are several far right nationalist parties in Israel like Yisrael Beitenu and
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 02:49 PM
Oct 2014

Shas, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yisrael_Beiteinu and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shas among various others.

Far right nationalism need not be anti-semitic.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
13. "Far right nationalism need not be anti-semitic." ????
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 03:35 PM
Oct 2014

i don't understand that statement in the context of this discussion.

Forgive me if I'm being dense, but could you clarify or elaborate to help me better understand what your intended meaning is, because taken literally to my reading, I don't see that point being argued anywhere, at anytime..

But perhaps I missed it?

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
15. This whole OP is as if this is the first time people are hearing of far right nationalism in Israel
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 03:47 PM
Oct 2014

There have been issues with this for years.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
19. Right. But what's any of that got to do with Antisemitism?
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 03:59 PM
Oct 2014

That's the point you were making, and what I found confusing.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
68. Should people not post it and ask questions
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 02:22 AM
Oct 2014

like, say, wtf?

Or should they not post it and not comment.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
83. That's not what I said.
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 10:08 AM
Oct 2014

I'm surprised at the shock that some are expressing. This has been going on for a long time.

whathehell

(29,092 posts)
79. This is the first time many people ARE hearing of it..
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 08:32 AM
Oct 2014

It sounds way beyond anything deserving a political designation.

It's just pure racist hate.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
84. I think you might be confused regarding the surprised responses to the level of bigotry/racism
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 03:00 PM
Oct 2014

I think it's perfectly reasonable for a lot of people here in the U.S.A., as well as members of DU to be taken aback with surprise at the level of racism and bigotry. Hell, a lot of people are just now beginning to recognize that the I/P conflict is largely rooted in racism/bigotry. (please don't lecture me why it can't possibly be racism). It's not as if the M$M here in the U.S. gives any attention to the subject whatsoever.

Not Ever.

So why wouldn't people here in the U.S. be surprised by the bigoted/racists hatred by right wing nationalist who exist in Israel?

But back to your statement which is the point of confusion for me (and others) which you have yet to clarify, is what does "antisemitism" have to do with any of this?

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
62. No it doesn't need to be. But it usually is
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 09:09 PM
Oct 2014

Talk to one of these guys about what they think about Jews who disagree with them. Seriously, nobody hates a Jew quite like these people do.

ancianita

(36,137 posts)
12. Context needed: this has been going on for at least three years, with different protestors.
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 03:35 PM
Oct 2014

Here are Israeli issues from their viewpoint.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
56. That's because the Right over there claims the Left will get them all killed....
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 08:15 PM
Oct 2014

And they're afraid to see if that's all bullshit.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
21. I used to think various countries were full of racists, and others more tolerant.
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 04:06 PM
Oct 2014

Hell, I'm Canadian, and we have always had a "tolerant" label. Maybe it spans back to the underground railroad, or sheltering Vietnam draft dodgers, or our tradition of peace keeping efforts, Greenpeace etc... But I know that Canada has its fair share of right wing lunatics as well, including our idiotic ignorant PM. Sure he split the vote among our other 3 more liberal parties, but he still got 39% of the vote. And the same is true for every country, whether its Sweden or Burma. The difference is a socially fair constitution, strong anti-hate crime laws and non-biased education...in order to "keep the loonies on the path".

You can see it with Russia where there were large protests against invading Ukraine with signs saying "sorry". But the more liberal part of the population is always fighting against those that value money and power above all else, so it is never a level playing field. The right usually controls most if not all of the news media, police forces, and armed forces.

There will always be a hard core 25% of brain dead frightened chicken little authoritarian types that will vote for the shrillest more fear-mongering fascist candidate. The trick is to keep their numbers down to that manageable number. But its so easy to tip the scales when you have a right wing leader, combined with a monopolized billionaire owned press. All you need to do is convince another 26%. If you legitimize far right extremists by giving them airtime and treating them as equals, while shutting out voices from the left and ridiculing them, you create an atmosphere for that 26% of wanting to go with the "winner". (or biggest whiner)

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
46. The Right usually uses wedge issues to get into power....
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 05:41 PM
Oct 2014

If your case he probably ran on a promise to make money rain from above and being anti-French.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
47. you're right (or rather correct)
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 06:30 PM
Oct 2014

Wedge issues is their forte.

He ran on the usual right wing fear mongering, Crime and Punishment (even though the crime rate has been falling for a decade)
Child pornography (In order to get a bill passed that far exceeds what is necessary for that issue and closer to what the NSA is doing in the US) Environmental groups harassed with new laws preventing them from having a "non-profit" status unless they refrain from any "political" statements. (the definition of such defined by Harper). Muzzling government paid scientists to suppress global warming facts.
Tax breaks and dismantling regulations for corporations, and cuts to social spending.

on and on....the usual Con playbook.

But no, no one wanting to be PM here can be perceived as "anti-French" as Quebec has a very large portion of seats in Parliament. But, to make my point, even Quebec has its fair share of righties.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
50. It's like Schwarzenegger in California....
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 07:47 PM
Oct 2014

He couldn't bash the "Mexicans" because they are a large voting block so he went after the Native Americans claiming they were getting a free ride on taxes while making a fortune on casinos.

26. cowards
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 04:18 PM
Oct 2014

What is the reasoning behind the ISIS style banner and clothing ?

I hope all the African immigrants stand up and fight back these thugs if any these cowards touch them .

Response to KamaAina (Original post)

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
28. Does this sound like an "American anti-Israeli bigot" to you?
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 04:25 PM
Oct 2014
Author: Moe Diab Writer and Middle East Analyst for 'On Point with Tomi Lahren' on One America News. I cover the Palestine-Israel conflict, social injustice issues, current events, and the important stuff mainstream media decides to put a spin on, or fail to cover. Share your feedback with me on twitter https://www.twitter.com/Moe_Diab


Nice fifth post.

Response to KamaAina (Reply #28)

Response to KamaAina (Reply #28)

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
30. What is wrong with the conclusions? You yourself say they are protesting "human dignity"
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 04:29 PM
Oct 2014

I must be missing something

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
31. Way to perpetuate the view that any criticism of israel in any form is knee-jerk
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 04:30 PM
Oct 2014

shouted down as 'anti-semitic'.

Response to KamaAina (Original post)

Dirty Socialist

(3,252 posts)
53. I Talked to an Israeli once
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 08:00 PM
Oct 2014

Arrogant jerk. Many Israelis think they're better than us.
Jewish people here are much nicer.

still_one

(92,403 posts)
55. I was treated like garbage by one (________) fill in the blank, therefore all, fill in the blank, are
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 08:11 PM
Oct 2014

arragant jerks.

Gee, I guess you would make the same conclusions if you had met one American, and extrapolate it to all Americans.

Mighty big of you that "Jewish people here are much nicer"

Some of my best friends are.........


Dirty Socialist

(3,252 posts)
60. In a way, I was generalizing
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 08:58 PM
Oct 2014

I left that conversation with the Netanyahu supporter with a bitter taste in my mouth. It would take a few good Netanyahu supporters to get rid of it.
I should have mentioned off the bat he was a Netanyahu supporter.

whathehell

(29,092 posts)
82. FWIW, I had a young Israeli woman as a long time roomate years ago & she was terrific.
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 08:47 AM
Oct 2014

Having said that, I've heard more than one American Jew complain about Israeli rudeness.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
64. Depends
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 11:44 PM
Oct 2014

Only in certain instances. There is a politically correct hierarchy which defines who is allowed to be racist, and when. You can't google it, you have to read a lot of posts and figure it out on your own.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
65. Some of the folk are Jewish.
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 12:11 AM
Oct 2014

The Ethiopian refugees (falashes) from years ago were from an ancient Jewish sect.

Joke: Jewish girl brings home a falashe to the parents. They exclaim in unison, "He's black!" She replies, "But he's Jewish!"

MADem

(135,425 posts)
66. Isis=STYLE (???) flags?
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 02:02 AM
Oct 2014

Those flags have something written on them but I can't see what it is.

The flag of ISIS very plainly misappropriates the image of the Seal of the Prophet--it's a very definite and obvious (mis)representation.

That's like saying the Russian flag is "French - Style" because of the colors...




Whatever they're carrying, those people are sick.

Behind the Aegis

(53,987 posts)
70. Not surprising given the author (and filmmaker's) bias.
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 02:41 AM
Oct 2014

The filmmaker is associated with Electronic Intifada, Mondoweiss, and +972. Of course, if you really want to see some irony, go the YouTube version of the video. The other irony, of course, are those acting if these racists fools represent all of Israel...well. not all of Israel...wink, wink. They were exercising their free speech because the government decided not to illegally detain immigrants.

Some of the comments from the video's post:


alphablight18 hours ago (edited)
We should have helped Hitler finish the job



whorebagsss22 hours ago
Fuck you Kikes. Hitler was right.



www.internet-entertain.me
the world would be better off without the jews



DeSean Ford5 hours ago
Maybe Hitler was on to something


Then, there are those who make the same comments as the bigots in the video:


Avi Cohen1 day ago
its not african !! its black satanic muslims !! AND YES WE DO NOT NEED MORE TERRORIST ! they rape kill steal padophiles last week they raped 88 y.0 women !!! and they kill each other they are animals !! as all satanic muslims are !!nothing to do with the fact they are black we have many black jews and they are great !! dont fall im the muslim lies propaganda!


Of course, the greater irony is those making some of the comments above about Jews, would be making the same comments as the racists in the video if the immigrants were coming into their various countries. Those bigoted racists serve a purpose for other bigots, that is the greatest of the ironies here.

Response to raven mad (Reply #72)

JustAnotherGen

(31,898 posts)
76. If they thought they could get away with it
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 07:50 AM
Oct 2014

We would have a bunch of Americans doing this to latino/hispanics. . . Oh wait - we do have that.

It's shameful regardless of who is engaging in this kind of behavior and where it is taking place.

And - I don't believe this is the majority of Israelis who behave in this hateful manner.

Response to KamaAina (Original post)

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
80. Jews whose ancestry came from ancient Egypt tell African Jews to "Go back to Africa"
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 08:39 AM
Oct 2014

If irony was a physical thing, you could beat it with a stick.

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