I posted about Walmart uninsuring 30,000 workers and got the following reply:

[monmouth3]

Just the facts. These employees were ALL part time very few employers do not even offer health care for part time help. You can thank Obama care for the cancelation.

How do I respond to that? I'm livid...

[notrightatall]

1. Obamacare does not require them to cancel.

it is walmart's choice.

[Travis_0004]

2. They should get insurance through the exchange

Possibly better coverage and cheaper as well.

[Warpy]

4. Walmart pays too little for that

They'll have to get Medicaid unless they live in red states. Then they're just thrown out to fend for themselves with no way to pay for insurance.

This is just another Walmart Welfare scam, kick your employees off the insurance plan and onto the backs of the taxpayers because your business plan relies on underpaying them.

[egduj]

3. They're not going to be uninsured - they'll just be getting a different insurance.

Now it will be through the ACA instead of Walmart. Quite possibly could be better.

[NJCher]

6. not necessarily

The way I understand it, though, could be flawed. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

The way the ACA policies looked to me is that the gov't subsidizes the policies to a reasonable monthly amount. The problem comes in with the deductibles. In nearly every situation I saw, one had to spend around 2000 before the insurance would even kick in.

Who's going to do that? Pay something like $264 a month for a policy that there's no hope of getting anything out of until the person has reached a $2000 deductible?



Cher

[Control-Z]

17. That 2000 out of pocket or deductible

only applies to hospitalizations, surgeries, and other major procedures. The insurance covers prescriptions, doctors, tests, just about anything you can think of without ever requiring a set out of pocket cost or deductible.

My husband had his shoulder replaced a few months ago. He was in the hospital for 2 days. The surgery alone was over $50,000. I'm not sure what the hospital costs were, or the MRIs, physical therapy... but all combined we paid something like 3,000.00. He needs another surgery on his elbow and it will be free if he does it this year because he's already paid the early maximum.

[MohRokTah]

8. Paid too little

If they are in a Blue State, they'll be covered via Medicaid (yay! more Welfare for Walmart!).

If they are in a Red State they'll fall into the Medicaid donut hole.

[yallerdawg]

5. Walmart management lurks everywhere.

Never mind defenders of the company that continues its relentless pursuit of the destruction of America.

[monmouth3]

7. Thanks everyone. This guy just nits and picks at all things....n/t

[yallerdawg]

9. Most definitely Walmart management! n/t

[scarystuffyo]

11. If the part time workers make over $16,000 a year

they will be able to buy into the ACA

If not then they can go on medicaid
If the state didn't accept the expansion then they will have no health care

[monmouth3]

13. Good information, many thanks....n/t

[scarystuffyo]

16. I just wanted to add that they can still buy into ACA insurance but

if they make so little it's not really an option for most.

Even the bronze plan is $250 to $300 a month

If you're making under $16,000 a year that is not affordable

This of course only pertains to the states who refused the Medicaid expansion

[savalez]

19. I've seen plans as low as $1/month after the subsidy on the exchange.

[scarystuffyo]

21. I haven't seen them that low but I've seen them as low as $17.00 a month in my state

[savalez]

23. Yeah, I suspect that

$250 to $300 number is before the subsidy.

[scarystuffyo]

25. It is

My brother is going through this now.

He works part time and doesn't make enough to get the subsidy but lives in a red state
with no Medicaid expansion .

His quote was $278 a month , he can't afford that and still keep a roof over his head

[upaloopa]

12. Have him point out the part of the law that

supports his contention

[safeinOhio]

10. The Waltons want to exercise their religious freedom

to pay as little as possible because of their devotion to the almighty dollar.

[1StrongBlackMan]

14. Just the facts response ...

These employees were ALL part time very few employers do not even offer health care for part time help.

Doesn't matter what other employers do with their part-time workers ...

Wal-Mart Stores Inc. WMT +1.22% is cutting health insurance for another 30,000 part-time workers and raising premiums for its other employees

http://online.wsj.com/articles/wal-mart-to-end-health-insurance-for-some-part-time-employees-1412694790

Okay ... you can "blame" the ACA; but, consider ...

For Wal-Mart, that push from the individual mandate contributed to an influx of workers who signed up for coverage, jacking up costs. Wal-Mart, the country’s largest private employer, with about 1.4 million employees, forecasts that its health-care costs will rise by $500 million more than it had expected in the year ending Jan. 31, 2015.

“We can’t take our eyes off costs,” said Sally Welborn, senior vice president of global benefits at Wal-Mart. Ms. Welborn declined to say how much Wal-Mart will save from the plan changes.

Wal-Mart reported $4.09 billion in net income (as of August 2014) ... that represents a 1.25% increase ... that'll certainly break the bank, especially when one considers walmart cost the tax-payers $6 billion + in government aid to its employees.

[jamzrockz]

34. Do you really believe that number?

It means that it would be better for the country if all the walmart stores were closed up. Cos even if they reinvested all their profits to their workers, they still be costing the US almost $2 billion. I hate walmart as much as the next person and I make the round at all my local groceries to get their deals instead of going for the price match at walmart. But that number is just not believable.

[jwirr]

15. I do not know how true what I am about to say is but: They may have taken the company insurance

away so that the employees can get ACA. I know WalMart is not known for their concern for their workers. But they have been known for their workers getting help from the government. So this may be another time. I would say this is good for the workers. ACA is a good program.

[scarystuffyo]

18. Most of those workers will be able to get Medicaid if the state accepted the expansion

That is better than the ACA, that is providing they make under 16,000 a year

[jwirr]

20. You are right. I see the expansion as part of ACA which is why it was expanded.

[scarystuffyo]

24. I stand corrected

It is part of the ACA and it would never had happened without it.

It just sucks for the 100's of thousands who live in rede states where it wasn't expanded

[jwirr]

27. I totally agree. I hope that can be corrected with the next election but I fear for some states. I

am not sure how this law made by the courts gets overturned.

[lpbk2713]

22. We're still living with the BushCo legacy.

BushCo drove the car in the ditch. It will take a while to get it back
anywhere near showroom condition again. Particularly with the GOP
obstructionists bogging things down every way they can think of.

[valerief]

26. Put that ***** on Ignore. nt

[Orsino]

28. Dumbass response. No reply is likely to enlighten. n/t

[sabrina 1]

29. Walmart DELIBERATELY does this, they force their employees to work just under full time hours so

they don't have to pay for their HC.

Costco otoh, PAYS HC even for their part time workers after six months. Walmart is run by a bunch of greedy psychopaths, and their business practices, low pay, refusing to cover their workers' HC, forces the tax payer to pay for Walmart workers.

[Brigid]

30. That has got to be . . .

The worst written reply to an email I have ever seen. Maybe you could start with that.

[Rex]

31. Ask them if that makes them feel good, that Walmart lets their employees

risk sickness and death. Everyone should have health coverage. Shouldn't even be up to the employer.

[riderinthestorm]

32. Employers weren't offering insurance to under-30 hour employees long before Obamacare

You can point that out to your friend. That's a fact. Anyone whose worked retail can affirm that.

It had nothing to do with Obamacare, it was a simple corporate policy for many places.

That Walmart is jumping on the bandwagon now, on top of their obscene employee pay and policies, is just a reflection on Walmart, not Obamacare.

[madokie]

33. I'm not sure you can

I might be tempted to use the ignore function so I wouldn't have to see that kind of shit again. I remember the post and the reply from yesterday, might have been early this morning but I do remember it.

[cwydro]

35. And therein lies the problem.

Many large companies are going to part time help for this very reason. So they do not have to provide health insurance.

And many of them are using the Affordable Healthcare Act as their excuse.

It's diabolical. Truly.