No direct contact possible transmission Ebola in tx

[boomer55]

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/10/08/frisco-patient-exhibiting-ebola-symptoms/


Sheriffs deputy with possible Ebola and had no direct contact with the victim.

[Dreamer Tatum]

1. "I swear, honey, I had no direct contact!" nt

[NightWatcher]

6. that all depends on what the definition of "direct" is

[Autumn]

2. None of the family has come down with it but a deputy with no direct contact has?

Something's wrong here.

[kestrel91316]

3. He is a possible case, no testing done yet.

And there is nothing mysterious about this. He might turn out to be the ONLY secondary case and no epidemiologist would think the circumstances reflected anything other than chance.

Don't be a fearmongering conspiracy theorist, k?

[Autumn]

7. I'm not being a fearmongering conspiracy theorist. I don't think he has it.

Don't accuse people of things, k? My problem is the "possible transmission Ebola" no contact, no ebloa

[kestrel91316]

12. He hung out in a virus-filled apartment. That wasn't smart.

[LisaL]

16. He was send in without any protective gear.

CDC thinks contact with an infected apartment is perfectly harmless, don't you know?

[kestrel91316]

24. And yet the suits and huge precautions for cleaning that same apartment.

It's either dangerous, or it's not. It WAS in fact dangerous and those people including the judge and cops were all in danger.

My microbiology degree and my veterinary degree have given me a very healthy respect for viral pathogens, especially those with high mortality.

[B2G]

20. He was ordered in

And protested that move.

[Autumn]

25. A bit different from "hanging out" isn't it.

[woolldog]

26. How do you know that?

source?

[LisaL]

29. That's what was reported.

"Five Dallas County sheriff’s deputies who were ordered Wednesday to go inside the Dallas apartment where an Ebola patient stayed are now worried about their health."

http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2014/10/dallas-sheriffs-deputies-upset-about-being-ordered-inside-ebola-patients-apartment-without-protective-gear.html/

[woolldog]

35. Wow

Why'd they follow that order??

[TorchTheWitch]

39. what choice do they have?

The CDC was in Dallas immediately, and all the fuck ups happened on their watch. Since the CDC didn't care that the family was first quarantined in an Ebola infested environment or that anyone was there to prevent the family trying to leave (which they did and led to the judge's order to force the quarantine, the two unprotected power-washing vomit off the pavement in front of the apartment complex that was left there for days before anyone thought to do it, the hospital not testing Duncan for Ebola until he was hospitalized for two days, etc.

With them being on scene and not caring about any of that I surely doubt they gave any warning about unprotected police going into the Ebola infested apartment either, so why would they not have followed orders or at least complained why they shouldn't? And if they did complain but the CDC continued to drop the ball and weren't backing them up, then of course they'd have to follow those orders regardless of what they thought personally.

Police have to follow orders that may take their lives every day.

[Autumn]

23. Another poster asked was he was licking door knobs

I found that funny (in a sad kind of way) but from what I have read it's a little harder than being in the same room as Mr. Duncan was in to catch it. I don't think he was "hanging out" . No reasonable person would go and "hang out" in that apartment.

[LisaL]

30. The people who went to clean it were wearing space suits.

This guy went into the apartment (prior to it being clean) with no protection whatsoever. Not even gloves.

[pnwmom]

4. He went into the contaminated apartment.

[MohRokTah]

5. This is all preliminary.

They responded with minimal symptoms. He could ahve a 24 hour bug for all we know right now.

They aren't taking any chances with the people who had any form of contact.

[arthritisR_US]

10. That was my understanding as well. They are

simply exercising due diligence in light of what transpired with Mr Duncan.

[herding cats]

8. Why not wait for the test results before we freak out?

In this case I'm not willing to bet money it's going to be Ebola.

[arthritisR_US]

11. At last, the voice of reason, TY

[herding cats]

14. As you can tell I don't work in the media.

Where frearmongering is now what passes for reporting. The CDC says the chances of this man having Ebola are minimal, but that doesn't get viewers or sell papers.

In all likelihood the man got a touch of a bug and freaked the heck out. I'm glad the medical workers are being so cautious, but the media needs to get a hold of themselves. They really should be embarrassed of their reaction in this instance.

[arthritisR_US]

21. I'm with you mate, they piss me off royally. nt

[Warren DeMontague]

18. Let's hope it isn't.

Because despite going into the apartment with no protective gear, he was NOT one of the people the CDC was monitoring.

So if he does come down with ebola, you can add that to the list of their "We are completely prepared for this! Honest!" fuckups.

[arcane1]

33. And risk someone changing the channel during a commercial break?

We can't have THAT!

[AverageJoe90]

9. I'm sorry, but something doesn't seem right.

BTW, I'm not accusing anyone of lying; this was a tough situation to deal with, but if it turns out that he does have Ebola, he would HAVE to had some contact with the victim's contaminants; he was in that victim's apartment for a full half hour; that may not seem like much, but once you do get in contact with a contaminant, even for a brief second, you are in jeopardy.

[LisaL]

15. He didn't have contact with Dunacn.

But he had contact with Duncan's apartment and I believe Duncan's relatives.

[AverageJoe90]

17. Okay, well, if I may.....

What I was trying to say is, even if Duncan himself was gone, there may still have been contaminants in the apartment, somewhere. I apologize if I wasn't clear, however.

[LisaL]

19. I am saying the same thing.

We know Duncan was throwing up all over the place the day he went into the hospital in the ambulance.
Maybe this guy stepped into the puke?

[Marrah_G]

13. He hasn't even been diagnosed with anything

He just didn't feel well and everyone is being cautious.

[tammywammy]

22. Shush!!!

They're not expecting him to come back positive either. It's precaution.

[YarnAddict]

27. It could be the flu

or food poisoning. Or many, many other things that present with the same early symptoms.

Maybe he has enterovirus, which has killed way more people in this country than Ebola.

[LisaL]

28. Or it could be Ebola.

Considering he was send into contaminated apartment with no protection.

[YarnAddict]

31. The people who lived in that apartment

with Duncan's dirty laundry haven't come down with it yet.

Not saying it's impossible; it's just a little early to make any judgments about the cause of the deputy's illness.

[LisaL]

32. Some people are infected but don't come down with the symptoms.

There is a lot we don't know.

[Ed Suspicious]

34. What is behind the drive to soft pedal

this illness? It's odd that people protest so adamantly against the idea that there might be cause for concern. Is it just because of republican fear mongering? Are we to cast off good sense just because repukes are going overboard?

[Mojorabbit]

36. +100 nt

[whereisjustice]

37. should we execute his family like Republicans want to do?

http://americablog.com/2014/10/kill-everyone-ebola-says-former-sc-gop-head.html

[Egnever]

38. That guy is a clown

And even the republicans have disowned him.

Now South Carolina’s Republican establishment wants nothing to do with Kincannon.

A prominent GOP operative in South Carolina who asked not to be identified told The Daily Beast that Kincannon was “generously editing” his résumé to emphasize his time in the state party’s leadership. The operative said Kincannon served as executive director of the organization for just three months before resigning.

According to Kincannon’s LinkedIn profile, he was also general counsel and parliamentarian of the state party. But the operative said that “anyone in the party with a law degree” could be called general counsel, and that parliamentarian was an unpaid, volunteer position with few responsibilities.

Will Folks, a prominent South Carolina political blogger known for stirring up controversy himself, said Kincannon “thrives on this kind of attention.”

“Todd is entertainment,” Folks said, “and whether you agree with the entertainment or not, a lot of people are watching”—much to the chagrin of the party establishment.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/03/28/south-carolina-republicans-distance-themselves-from-todd-kincannon.html

[TorchTheWitch]

40. no one has to be in direct contact with an infected person in order to catch it

We've known that. They can also be infected by coming into contact with their bodily fluids whether they know that they're there or not. If the sheriff turns out to be infected than we'll know he got it from being unprotected while in the apartment where Mr. Duncan was ill and picked it up somehow.

The cameraman that tested positive wasn't in direct contact with an Ebola patient either but believes he became infected when being splashed when a vehicle he was to ride in was being washed because it recently had a dead body in it that died of Ebola.

Dr. Brantly, one of the aid workers helping in an outbreak area still doesn't know how he was infected, and whenever he was in any contact with an infected person he was completely suited up.

The nurse/nurses' aid in Spain was suited up when she was caring for the Spanish priest that ended up dying despite his being given ZMapp, and she believes that she got it in the process of removing the protective suit. That's why people in contact with Ebola patients need to be sprayed with chlorine before removing their protective suits as Doctors Without Borders has been doing in Africa. These kind of precautions that are the same in bio-labs where Ebola and other horrible diseases are dealt with all the time aren't killing lab workers. Obviously, it's better to be safe than sorry, so what seems like extraordinary measures of protection aren't extreme but necessary.