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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 04:15 PM Oct 2014

Is Dallas Co Sheriff Deputy a second Ebola case?

He went into Duncan's apartment but the CDC says he didn't have direct contact with Duncan.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2785514/Second-person-rushed-hospital-Ebola-symptoms-contact-patient-zero-Thomas-Duncan.html

The second person with Ebola symptoms is reportedly a Dallas County sheriff's deputy who went to the apartment of first patient Thomas Duncan.

The individual, who has not been named, walked into a Texas clinic on Wednesday and told medics he had been in contact with first victim Mr Duncan.

The CareNow clinic in Frisco, Texas was immediately placed in lock-down after the person appeared on Wednesday and was exhibiting signs of the deadly virus.

The CDC told MailOnline today that the person is not one of the 48 contacts being monitored, and there is no indication of any direct contact with the initial patient, Mr Duncan, in Dallas.

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Is Dallas Co Sheriff Deputy a second Ebola case? (Original Post) pnwmom Oct 2014 OP
I thought people were quarantined? How can he just "walk in" to a clinic? Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #1
He wasn't in the group that's being monitored, apparently because he had no direct contact pnwmom Oct 2014 #2
I wonder then if he's being too careful. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #3
There's probably no such thing as too careful, in the case of Ebola. pnwmom Oct 2014 #4
Which is why I wonder if the media is a little quick here. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #5
Read your subject line again. Wait Wut Oct 2014 #10
Or he's laying the ground work for a worker's comp claim tularetom Oct 2014 #8
You know, if he really thought he might have ebola, he should have phoned TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #6
+++++ LeftInTX Oct 2014 #18
I thought the second possible Ebola case said he'd been in West Africa. City Lights Oct 2014 #7
I wonder if he checked that just to make sure they took him seriously. Or maybe pnwmom Oct 2014 #9
Good point. City Lights Oct 2014 #11
He was IN THE NOW-DECEASED DUNCAN'S APARTMENT, not merely "someone who'd been in West Africa...." WinkyDink Oct 2014 #20
I realize that. But the CDC doesn't consider the contaminated apartment to be "direct contact." pnwmom Oct 2014 #27
If so, the CDC will have to immediately notify everyone who ecstatic Oct 2014 #12
Live feed here waiting to begin Go Vols Oct 2014 #13
Press conference is reporting that he had no direct contact with Duncan, City Lights Oct 2014 #14
Before or after the apartment was cleaned? jwirr Oct 2014 #15
They didn't specify whether it was before or after. nt City Lights Oct 2014 #16
It wouldn't have been cleaned WITH DUNCAN STILL THERE. WinkyDink Oct 2014 #22
Right, but it took awhile to clean the apartment after Duncan left, and they didn't say City Lights Oct 2014 #23
That makes a whole lot of difference pr they would not have sent in a hazmat team to clean it. jwirr Oct 2014 #24
The deputies and the judge went in before B2G Oct 2014 #17
Obviously before. The apt was cleaned after it was evacuated. WinkyDink Oct 2014 #21
A couple of things.... Whiskeytide Oct 2014 #19
Because, remember, IT'S NOT AIIIIRBORNE! So PLAINLY he had nothing to fear if he didn't TOUCH WinkyDink Oct 2014 #25
Hoax = I saw something about a high school... Whiskeytide Oct 2014 #28
What about the deputies who were sent to find the homeless man PADemD Oct 2014 #31
It's my understanding that he didn't need to have to have direct contact with Duncan to get Ebola Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #26
Someone said, the cure was 3 white people away angstlessk Oct 2014 #29
They had run out of Zdapp or they might have given it to the missionaries in Spain pnwmom Oct 2014 #30
Hey are you alright? darkangel218 Oct 2014 #32
For now angstlessk Oct 2014 #33
Dont even say that!!!! Call the cops!!! darkangel218 Oct 2014 #34
run! choose to save yourself! hopemountain Oct 2014 #35

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
1. I thought people were quarantined? How can he just "walk in" to a clinic?
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 04:17 PM
Oct 2014

Jesus. WTF is going on in Texas?

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
2. He wasn't in the group that's being monitored, apparently because he had no direct contact
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 04:19 PM
Oct 2014

with Duncan or the ambulance.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
4. There's probably no such thing as too careful, in the case of Ebola.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 04:24 PM
Oct 2014

I'd rather he be a false alarm, wouldn't you?

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
5. Which is why I wonder if the media is a little quick here.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 04:25 PM
Oct 2014

Maybe he just doesn't feel well. Eh. Who knows.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
10. Read your subject line again.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 04:29 PM
Oct 2014

When isn't the media a little quick? I'm surprised they haven't published a list of every person in the continental U.S. that has coughed in the last two weeks.

Lets just hope, for his sake, that this is just a case of the flu or a bad cold.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
8. Or he's laying the ground work for a worker's comp claim
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 04:26 PM
Oct 2014

I don't believe it's possible to be too cynical about stuff like this.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
6. You know, if he really thought he might have ebola, he should have phoned
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 04:26 PM
Oct 2014

a real hospital and made arrangements to arrive in the most isolated way possible, rather than walking in to an urgent care clinic, for god's sake--where they do sprained ankles and flu shots.

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
7. I thought the second possible Ebola case said he'd been in West Africa.
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 04:26 PM
Oct 2014

I think we just don't know enough yet to say who it is.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
9. I wonder if he checked that just to make sure they took him seriously. Or maybe
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 04:27 PM
Oct 2014

he thought that his being inside an apartment belonging to someone who'd been in West Africa was close enough.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
20. He was IN THE NOW-DECEASED DUNCAN'S APARTMENT, not merely "someone who'd been in West Africa...."
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 05:08 PM
Oct 2014

ecstatic

(32,712 posts)
12. If so, the CDC will have to immediately notify everyone who
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 04:31 PM
Oct 2014

was given false assurances about safety.

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
14. Press conference is reporting that he had no direct contact with Duncan,
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 04:53 PM
Oct 2014

but was in the apartment and had contact with others living there.

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
23. Right, but it took awhile to clean the apartment after Duncan left, and they didn't say
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 05:12 PM
Oct 2014

whether this person was there before or after the cleaning was done. If he was there before the apartment was cleaned, I would have expected him to be in the group of people being monitored.

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
19. A couple of things....
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 05:08 PM
Oct 2014

... Why does a deputy go to the apartment of a known Ebola case without protective gear? I'm assuming he went there after the issue became known (I haven't heard of law enforcement going there for some other reason before the diagnosis - like a domestic dispute, and I'm pretty sure we would have heard ALL about that if it had happened).

And if your the deputy, wouldn't you look around at all the chaos around this, maybe find someone with a CDC badge around their neck, and pose the question "hey, do you think I fucked up?", and get yourself on the damn monitoring list.

Maybe this is the hoax I've seen referenced. Or maybe he just has the flu and they are being overly cautious - if so, never mind. But it looks like a developing story now, and I am just bewildered at how our system keeps shooting itself in the foot.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
25. Because, remember, IT'S NOT AIIIIRBORNE! So PLAINLY he had nothing to fear if he didn't TOUCH
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 05:18 PM
Oct 2014

Duncan.

#bloodysheetsnotwithstanding #ifyouthinktheywereonlysweaty,haha

What "hoax"?
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Frisco-Investigating-Possible-Ebola-Case-278555081.html

Dallas County sheriff's deputy in Frisco who said he was feeling ill and who had been in the apartment of Thomas Eric Duncan, the man who died of Wednesday of Ebola, has been hospitalized.

The person was transported to the hospital is a deputy with the Dallas County Sheriff's Office who was in Duncan's apartment, Sgt. Chris Dyer with the Dallas County Sheriff's Association confirmed to NBC 5.

NBC 5 has confirmed the man is Sr. Sgt. Michael Monnig with the Dallas County Sheriff's Office.

Dyer said the symptoms exhibited were not Ebola-like, but because he was feeling ill and had been at the apartment he was transported to Texas Health Presbyterian out of an abundance of caution.~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

As to WHY no protection: they followed orders.

"The deputy was ordered to go inside the unit with officials to get a quarantine order signed. No one who went inside the unit that day wore protective gear."

http://www.11alive.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/10/08/patient-frisco-ebola-suspect/16924603/

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
28. Hoax = I saw something about a high school...
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 05:45 PM
Oct 2014

... kid posting something about a second Ebola case in Frisco a few days ago, and getting arrested for inciting panic, etc.... It now seems clear this deputy case is unrelated to that event.

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
31. What about the deputies who were sent to find the homeless man
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 11:22 PM
Oct 2014

who rode in the ambulance immediately after Mr. Duncan and before the ambulance was decontaminated?

Could the sick deputy be one of those?

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
26. It's my understanding that he didn't need to have to have direct contact with Duncan to get Ebola
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 05:19 PM
Oct 2014

Just direct contact with Duncan's fluids.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
29. Someone said, the cure was 3 white people away
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 07:15 PM
Oct 2014

well, the white folks who were flown into America were saved, but the black man died..

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
30. They had run out of Zdapp or they might have given it to the missionaries in Spain
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 09:51 PM
Oct 2014

who were diagnosed before Duncan.

Duncan might have had a better chance, however, and so might the white nurse in Spain, if they were tested as soon as they developed any fever, rather than waiting for 101.5. The biggest mistake was sending Duncan home.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
33. For now
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 04:02 PM
Oct 2014

I do anticipate he will kill me and my friend...he is now wielding the axe when he is angry and drunk..there are times when there is nothing one can do except accept the inevitable...hey, I drink too...not sure what will happen to me if I cannot drink?

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
34. Dont even say that!!!! Call the cops!!!
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 04:25 PM
Oct 2014

Let us know if we can call help for you!! NO, you cannot "accept the inevitable..."
Please stay strong and let me know, or anyone else, of how we can help you!! That asshole has no right to take your life away!!! And that has nothing to do with wether you "drink" or not!!!!


Please please please, let us know if we can help in any way!!!!

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
35. run! choose to save yourself!
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 05:44 PM
Oct 2014

choose! yes, you do have a choice. you say no one will help you and that you don't want to leave your things and all that you worked so hard for - i can understand this thinking. btdt. i can tell you, that there IS something better for you out there and that it is your choice. no one or anything can be responsible for making that choice for you - other than you. i hope some day you are on here posting: what took me so long? what was i so afraid of that i risked my life?

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