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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 05:45 AM Oct 2014

Chomsky: U.S. Spawned a Fundamentalist Frankenstein in the Mideast

http://www.alternet.org/books/chomsky-us-spawned-fundamentalist-frankenstein-mideast

For decades now, Noam Chomsky has been widely regarded as the most important intellectual alive (linguist, philosopher, social and political critic) and the leading US dissident since the Vietnam War. Chomsky has published over 100 books and thousands of articles and essays, and is the recipient of dozens of honorary doctorate degrees by some of the world's greatest academic institutions. His latest book, Masters of Mankind: Essays and Lectures, 1969-2013, has just been published by Haymarket Books. On the occasion of the release of his last book, Chomsky gave an exclusive and wide-ranging interview to C.J. Polychroniou for Truthout, parts of which will also appear in The Sunday Eleftherotypia, a major national Greek newspaper.

C.J. Polychroniou: In a nationally televised address on the eve of the 13th anniversary of the September 11th attacks on the United States, Obama announced to the American people and the rest of the world that the United States is going back to war in Iraq, this time against the self-proclaimed Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS). Is Iraq an unfinished business of the US invasion of 2003, or is the situation there merely the inevitable outcome of the strategic agenda of the Empire of Chaos?

Noam Chomsky: "Inevitable" is a strong word, but the appearance of ISIS and the general spread of radical jihadism is a fairly natural outgrowth of Washington wielding its sledgehammer at the fragile society of Iraq, which was barely hanging together after a decade of US-UK sanctions so onerous that the respected international diplomats who administered them via the UN both resigned in protest, charging that they were "genocidal."

One of the most respected mainstream US Middle East analysts, former CIA operative Graham Fuller, recently wrote that "I think the United States is one of the key creators of [ISIS]. The United States did not plan the formation of ISIS, but its destructive interventions in the Middle East and the war in Iraq were the basic causes of the birth of ISIS."

He is correct, I think. The situation is a disaster for the US, but is a natural result of its invasion. One of the grim consequences of US-UK aggression was to inflame sectarian conflicts that are now tearing Iraq to shreds, and have spread over the whole region, with awful consequences.
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Chomsky: U.S. Spawned a Fundamentalist Frankenstein in the Mideast (Original Post) xchrom Oct 2014 OP
"the most important intellectual alive" Android3.14 Oct 2014 #1
I regard him as the most important intellectual alive today. RoccoR5955 Oct 2014 #3
Uh, me. daleanime Oct 2014 #5
Always attack the messenger and malaise Oct 2014 #7
He is certainly in any thinking person's top handful. hifiguy Oct 2014 #10
Yes, bombing and killing people can radicalize the survivors. merrily Oct 2014 #2
Fighting Terrorism with more terror..... daleanime Oct 2014 #4
We didn't start it. Are_grits_groceries Oct 2014 #6
Not so sure about that. The Saudis' lunatic Wahhabism hifiguy Oct 2014 #11
Oh I agree. Are_grits_groceries Oct 2014 #16
Our bombs are terror seeds. Scuba Oct 2014 #8
K&R! countryjake Oct 2014 #9
The Jihadists would like nothing more than to turn this into an anti-Islam crusade. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2014 #12
This is an extremely important article but to be fair he does point to the Saudis too riderinthestorm Oct 2014 #13
K&R woo me with science Oct 2014 #14
kick woo me with science Oct 2014 #15
 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
1. "the most important intellectual alive"
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 07:30 AM
Oct 2014

Uh, who regards him as this? That seems a bit hyperbolic. Certainly he is an important intellectual, but the most important?

merrily

(45,251 posts)
2. Yes, bombing and killing people can radicalize the survivors.
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 07:38 AM
Oct 2014

Seems kind of obvious, but, apparently, we never cease to be surprised when it happens-and we never seem to foresee it the next time.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
4. Fighting Terrorism with more terror.....
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 08:08 AM
Oct 2014

is like fighting a grease fire with more grease.





A a big K&R.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
6. We didn't start it.
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 08:11 AM
Oct 2014

The Saudis have long been repressive towards fundamentalists. They are and have always a clear and present danger to their regime. This is true in other countries.

Our intervention in the Middle East certainly helped it grow quickly. However, I believe some form of ISIS was inevitable because of the harsh measures used and the alliances with the West. I also think the Saudis and others have hastened their own end by funding ISIS. It is a monster that will turn on them.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
11. Not so sure about that. The Saudis' lunatic Wahhabism
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 04:04 PM
Oct 2014

is about as fundamentalist and batshit as anything can be.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
16. Oh I agree.
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 03:59 AM
Oct 2014

That group is another reason I have believed an ISIS-like challenge could arise across the Middle East. The rise of a strict Islamic group to challenge the Saudis and others has always been a possibility. I don't think they anticipated the savagery that ISIS uses.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
12. The Jihadists would like nothing more than to turn this into an anti-Islam crusade.
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 04:09 PM
Oct 2014

And, we've been very cooperative in doing just that.

BTW..What ever happened to all the candy and flowers given to us by the grateful Iraqis overjoyed by our "liberating" them?

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
13. This is an extremely important article but to be fair he does point to the Saudis too
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 04:27 PM
Oct 2014

Saudi Arabia as a missionary state for their extremist fundamentalist theology has a huge role in the development of ISIL.

I don't want to hijack your thread but Chomskys points about the economy were also particularly good.

Thanks for posting this

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