Rachel opening with secret security failures on msnbc 9 est

[flamingdem]

right now

on msnbc

[MohRokTah]

1. This is horrifying. This will embolden the rightwing terrorist militias more than the Bundy thing.

This puts President Obama and his family in extreme danger.

And this cannot be fixed quickly.

[HipChick]

2. Heads are going to roll...anytime Rachel starts ripping you

you are toast

[coldbeer]

22. Rachel has to be underpaid

She is so thorough and always brings up many
new tangents about her subjects. She rarely stammers
and speaks fast. She makes you feel welcome.

I do not always agree with her but I do listen more
attentivly each time I watch her (I often miss her
show).

She has to spend countless hours and is original.

[flamingdem]

3. Oh! It was an off duty agent who just by chance was in the White House who

tackled the intruder ... noooo that's crazy.

[MohRokTah]

4. It's like the detail tasked to protect the Obamas just plain DON'T GIVE A FUCK!

[HipChick]

6. FBI or CIA are leaking these stories

It's well known none of these agencies like each other

[flamingdem]

7. Good if it means more information

I hope that part of this gets unraveled too. Should these things be kept private? I guess it's better not to let the crazies know the weaknesses.

[HipChick]

8. Too late now...funny thing is I see a lot of SS around town

in DC...the are most meanest looking unhappy dudes...my friend dated one for a while....DUDE had issues

[flamingdem]

13. Their job sounds boring and underpaid

for the overtime hours according to Rachel's guest. Meanwhile they signed on hoping it would be more like the Bourne Ultimatum!

[HipChick]

5. Yep..sick to my stomach

this makes me

[sheshe2]

11. Which means that the SS that were

supposedly pursuing the intruder were no where to be see? Wow! Is that correct?

This is frightening flamingdem.

[flamingdem]

12. That's what Rachel said, the agent who stopped the guy

was assigned to another detail and happened to be there. Not sure what detail he was a part of but that was a question of luck that he was there. Yikes.

[sheshe2]

15. That I did read, if I remember correctly he was with the Pres.

He had just finished seeing the Pres and I believe they said Malia off on the helicopter. that was way too close Flamingdem.

[flamingdem]

18. Wow, he should get hired to protect the Pres.

At least there's someone on the ball!

[jen63]

17. I can't post a link because I can't

remember where I read it, but he was supposedly on Michelle's or the girl's team and had just come back from putting them on Marine 1 a few minutes before.

[bullwinkle428]

9. I was kind of rolling my eyes at the initial "early adopter conspiracy theorists"

who suggested it was a nefarious plot.

Now, on the heels of the revelation of new details on the 11/2011 shooting at the WH and the story about the random guy on the elevator, who, oh, just HAPPENED TO HAVE A GUN...I'm starting to have questions of my own.

[Hekate]

10. I hope to Gods everyone at DU watches this.

Thanks for being the first to post this alert -- I was just about to.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

14. And then there was Robert Latta

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Latta


Robert Allen Latta was a water meter reader known for being a White House intruder.

Latta, of Denver, Colorado, holds a master's degree in mechanical engineering but worked as a water meter reader for the Denver water department, where he held the Denver meter-reading record of 600 readings in a single day. Time magazine quoted his supervisor as saying "He is a phenomenon of accuracy and speed."

While on vacation in Washington D.C. on January 20, 1985 (the day that President Ronald Reagan was sworn-in for his second term) the 45-year-old Latta gained access to the White House by following the 33 members of the Marine Band past security. While carrying an overnight bag, he was able to wander around the Executive Residence for 14 minutes, but was eventually discovered near the Blue Room and was apprehended by Secret Service agents, who noticed that he had neither a uniform nor an instrument. Latta was quoted as saying "I thought if I wasn't supposed to be there, somebody would stop me." and that "I just wanted to see the ceremony...I'm kind of patriotic."



SNL did a skit about it.

Secret Service agents brought in dogs to search for explosives and interrogated Latta outside the White House. Later Latta was turned over to DC Police and charged with a misdemeanor count of unlawful entry. Latta was jailed for five days and interviewed by court-appointed psychiatrist Dr. Norman L. Wilson, who discovered that Latta had voluntarily committed himself to a psychiatric hospital in June 1984 and heard voices saying, "You blew it," according to documents filed in the District of Columbia Superior Court. Latta was committed to St. Elizabeths Hospital.


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[longship]

16. Rachel is available as an audio podcast.

I download it every weekday -- no cable or broadband Inet here. You don't get the visuals, but Rachel is so smart, and so descriptive, that it does not matter. Her narratives are dense with information, and she is always willing to correct herself.

She is the best of the best commentators.

Point your favorite podcast aggregator to Rachel Maddow and you'll see, er hear, for yourself.

[flamingdem]

19. Thanks for that

someone posted a live online link for the show yesterday. Probably not that reliable but it happens at the same time as the show.

[longship]

21. I often grab the audio the next morning.

But I find that it's best to get a couple hours or so after the end of the show.

The best part, no adverts.

Rachel is, by far, the best broadcaster in the business.

[flamingdem]

26. Here's a link for a live

online msnbc, seems to work fine.

http://www.livenewschat.eu/politics/

[Spitfire of ATJ]

38. There's also a video podcast...

Here's tonight's episode from MSNBC:
http://msnbcpod.vo.llnwd.net/l1/video/podcast/pdv_maddow_netcast_m4v-09-30-2014-202054.m4v

And here's a place that archives the podcasts:
http://www.digitalpodcast.com/feeds/26765-msnbc-rachel-maddow-video

[Cha]

20. Good.. will catch it later online.. I just posted this info about the SS on another thread..

Nerdy Wonka @NerdyWonka
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Director Pierson: "The Secret Service had a reduction in its staffing as a result of sequestration." Down to 550 people below optimal level.
5:33 AM - 30 Sep 2014 29 Retweets 5 favorites

Nerdy Wonka @NerdyWonka
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GOP slashed SS funding, leaving them 550 people below optimal level and are now "outraged" failures occurred?

Hypocrisy, thy name is GOP.
5:51 AM - 30 Sep 2014 44 Retweets 13 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/09/30/rise-and-shine-915/#comments

And, this.. Issa finally says something of consequence even though it's loaded with hypocrisy..


Secret Service Director Julia Pierson, left, is sworn in on Capitol Hill in Washington, Tuesday, Sept, 30, 2014, prior to testifying before the House Oversight Committee.

Secret Service head takes onus for White House breach/ Poll

snip//

“The fact is the system broke down,” declared committee chairman Darrell Issa. “An intruder walked in the front door of the White House, and that is unacceptable.”

More..
http://www.providencejournal.com/breaking-news/content/20140930-secret-service-head-takes-onus-for-white-house-breach.ece\

Not so sure about Julia Pierson..

Mahalo, flamingdem

[flamingdem]

23. Mahalo Cha, Lawrence O'Donnell is continuing the story saying

that Julia Pierson should have offered her resignation and fired everyone of the staff involved.

Funny that about Issa actually sounding sane for once!!



This funding story is maddening but at least now they'll have to act and refund - I think!

[Cha]

28. It is really mind boggling how so much incompetance is going on in a life and death

kind of job! It would be grand if the SS got their funding back but I'm not counting on it. The only thing the gop knows how to do is poutrage lip service.. not acting on it.

So I'm thinking the agents who are there had better get damn serious about their job.. as a Whole Team. Damn it. This is our President who better not get harmed in any damn way.

[flamingdem]

25. Cha here is a link for

online msnbc

It's working:
http://www.livenewschat.eu/politics/

[Cha]

29. Thank you, flamingdem!

[calimary]

24. I'm sorry but I have to ask. What party does Ms. Pierson belong to?

Is she a CON? A teabagger maybe?

[flamingdem]

27. You never know, but she's likely just too distant from

the daily workings of this organization -- seems like the problem is the culture of that organization and I bet being female doesn't help with being aware of all that goes on with some of the "dudes" as hipchick describes above.

[Cha]

30. Found this, calimary..

Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Is in the Hot Seat

"When President Obama appointed her the new director of the Secret Service a year and a half ago, hopes were high that Julia Pierson could redeem the agency's tarnished reputation.

“Julia is eminently qualified to lead the agency that not only safeguards Americans at major events and secures our financial system, but also protects our leaders and our first families, including my own,” Obama said in a statement in March 2013, when Pierson was sworn in as the first female director of the Secret Service in its nearly 150-year history."

snip//

Now Pierson, 55, is coming under fire for botching the assignment Obama had called out: protecting the first family. The law enforcement veteran with more than 30 years of experience with the Secret Service is being grilled Tuesday by Congress after a series of major mistakes by her agents, including a White House break-in on Sept. 19 by an Iraq war vet who hopped the fence and made it into the East Room with a knife before he was tackled and disarmed.

snip//

While the White House released a statement after the breach assuring the public that "the President has full confidence in the Secret Service," Pierson will face tough questions about how the incident happened — especially in light of other recent safety revelations, including a bullet that struck the White House residence in 2011 and an imbroglio involving prostitutes and a Secret Service detail in Colombia in 2012.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/secret-service-director-julia-pierson-hot-seat-n214726

And, we have the "Elevator Incident"..

geek http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025604122

Darn!

[calimary]

31. And the other thing that really burns, for me, is that there are those who will point at this

and say - "SEE? A woman can't cut it ..." "SEE? You put a woman in charge and ... "

You KNOW they're out there, Cha. The bad guys will seize on ANYTHING to take us down, as Dems, as women, as liberals, you name it.

[Cha]

32. What I was thinking too.. A woman can do it.. just because Julia Pierson has

been in charge and all of this incompetency has happened doesn't mean a woman cannot be successful at a job like this.

We'll see how this plays out.. who knows if she'll resign or what.. but, the mistakes have been.. damn seems like micro managing would be called for in this line of work!

The Secret Service Lied As Intruder Made It Hundreds Of Feet Into White House

"The Secret Service originally claimed that the intruder was tackled just inside the door, but this is obviously not the truth. The fact that an armed intruder was able to so easily evade security and made deep into the White House should concern every American. Secret Service agents who are assigned to the White House detail put their lives on the line to protect the First Family, but presidential protection should not fail like this."

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/09/29/secret-service-lied-intruder-hundreds-feet-white-house.html

[flamingdem]

37. A woman can do it but she didn't seem that with it

at the hearing. Then again she is under incredible pressure for what the "dudes" do under her.

My guess is that there are people in the organization undercutting her leadership.

She'd have to be a vicious political player to stay on top of that. I'm projecting my experiences of going through something similar.

[Cha]

40. Yeah, I know what you're saying.. one of her comments was..

Secret Service Director: ‘It’s hard to see at night’

Under questioning from Rep. Trey Gowdy, Secret Service Director Julia Pierson explains why the a housekeeper, instead of the Secret Service, found the damage left by the man who shot at the White House.

smh http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/its-hard-to-see-at-night-335893571701

Ouch!

The Collapse of the Secret Service

“I wish to God you protected the White House like you’re protecting your reputation here today,” Representative Stephen Lynch, a Democrat of Massachusetts, told the Secret Service director, Julia Pierson, at a hearing Tuesday morning."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/01/opinion/Julia-Piersons-Secret-Service-and-the-White-House-Breach.html?smid=tw-nytimes&_r=0

Thanks for mentioning this possible scenario..

"My guess is that there are people in the organization undercutting her leadership.

She'd have to be a vicious political player to stay on top of that. I'm projecting my experiences of going through something similar."

We know how people can be.. who want to get ahead and don't care who or what they trample on.

[spanone]

33. this is unacceptable on all levels.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

34. I can already hear the screams of the Right claiming this is all to get the public to support Obama.

[spanone]

35. watching the replay. this is unbelievable. un-fucking-believable

[flamingdem]

36. Me too, the list is stunning

Now Carol Leonnig from Wapo is saying the training is weak and morale is low since they're treated as second class and they're understaffed.

Looks like they want to pay for "other things" - other than protecting Potus!

[apples and oranges]

39. My thoughts EXACTLY