George Zimmerman's Dad: If FBI Comes For My Son, 'He’s Probably Gonna Shoot A Few Of Them'

[DonViejo]

By AIZA GARCIA Published SEPTEMBER 29, 2014, 1:51 PM EDT

In the years since he shot and killed unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin, former Florida neighborhood watchman George Zimmerman has reportedly lived in fear.

That fear is so strong, his father reportedly told GQ magazine for its upcoming October issue, that he worries it may result in the shooting of some FBI agents.

Robert Zimmerman told GQ that his son is nervous about his safety in general after becoming the focus of national attention following the shooting. He also said his son is concerned about the possibility of being charged with federal civil rights violations, despite being acquitted on state criminal charges last year, according to the magazine.

He's worried "if FBI agents come and kick in his door, he's probably gonna shoot a few of them," Robert Zimmerman said, according to GQ.

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/george-zimmerman-fbi-agents-shooting

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“You and your brother are evil”: GQ’s insane profile of George Zimmerman’s family

"They memorized a color-coded threat-ID system... Code brown: Draw your weapons. Code black: Come out guns blazing"

JOANNA ROTHKOPF

October’s issue of GQ features a profile of the family of George Zimmerman, the man who owes his life to Florida’s Stand Your Ground law and extremely understanding jurors, after fatally shooting Trayvon Martin. Writer Amanda Robb paints a picture of a family tormented by paranoia, as the Zimmermans struggle to live in a country where the vast majority of the population despises their brother.

Here are a few of the most fascinating, heart-breaking, complicated moments.

Their paranoid security protocols

“They watched the movie Argo to learn how to live like CIA. Code names for everyone. No mail delivered to the house. No visitors. No talking to the few neighbors they had. No long phone conversations — keep it short and vague to outwit surveillance. Never discuss your whereabouts via phone or text. Keep a weapon close by at all times. [George's brother] Robert slept with his gun. Still does.

“And in case someone–or multiple someones–decided to mount an attack on the house, the Zimmermans pre-packed their own “go-bags” filled with everything they would need to flee in a rush, as well as what they called “footballs” — like the one President Obama has with the nuclear codes–that contained laptops, cell phones, and other essential electronics.

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http://www.salon.com/2014/09/29/the_most_bizarre_moments_from_the_zimmerman_family_gq_profile/

[trumad]

1. Dude has been involved in several incidents involving the law

His latest was road rage against a dude who did noting wrong.

If I were him...I'd change my name and go into hiding the rest of his life.

[DonViejo]

2. Wasilla, Alaska might be an appropriate place for him to move to. eom

[bravenak]

107. Nooooooo!!

He cannot come here!!! We already have Bristol!!

[pintobean]

3. Code brown should be

shit your pants. What a couple of whack jobs.

[Gormy Cuss]

110. It sounds like "code brown" is their steady state. n/t

[TeamPooka]

4. The Zimmermans think we care about them, but we don't. nt

[closeupready]

21. No, I think SALON thinks we care about the Zimmermans.

And clearly, some here do, given how much we hear about them and their wanderings.

[Skittles]

5. he can live in fear the rest of his miserable life

and STILL never know the fear Trayvon felt while being stalked by that gun humping paranoid piece of SHIT

[Boom Sound 416]

6. Yet he didn't go home

[Skittles]

7. ?

[Boom Sound 416]

8. What don't you understand?

[Skittles]

9. WHO didn't go home?

WTF are you talking about? Besides Trayvon, because he was STALKED AND MURDERED before he got there.

[CreekDog]

13. Why would you come into this thread and attempt to cast aspersions on Trayvon Martin?

Why does someone do that?

What is the overall point of the OP? Why do you feel that something unrelated and negative towards Trayvon Martin needed to be added to the thread?

Why?

[Skittles]

14. Zimmerman apologist

[Boom Sound 416]

35. C'mon you can do better than that.

[CreekDog]

59. I'm trying to understand your point of view, if you really aren't attempting to defend Zimmerman...

why did you once say that,

"But Trayvon was not killed for just wondering around. But if that's what you believe you are ignoring the facts of the case. Because while Zim may be an asshole over zealous wannabe their are facts in the case that create reasonable justification at most and at very least reasonable doubt that he murdered Trayvon."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3267843

[Skittles]

74. of COURSE I can

IF IT IS WORTH IT

[Rex]

101. LMAO!

So true Skittles!

[Boom Sound 416]

27. Try again, caller

I'm not responding to the OP

NOT casting aspersions.


And for your last point. Ahh who the fuck cares?

[CatWoman]

51. obviously you do

why else would you post such filth?

[Boom Sound 416]

52. You're right.

Those pesky facts. Always screwing up a perfectly good narrative, right?

[Rex]

102. Facts? Kewl story bro!

[noiretextatique]

95. what facts?

the fact are: trayvon martin was unarmed, zimmerpig was armed. the police asked zimmerpig not to pursue, and he did anyway. the facts are: zimmerpig shot an unarmed teenager, and concocted a self-serving tale that he knew would resonate with racists, like him. end of facts.

[arcane1]

36. There remains a desperate group that so badly wants this to be a justified death.

[Boom Sound 416]

41. Their may be

I don't subscribe to that

[arcane1]

45. Sure you don't n/t

[SammyWinstonJack]

93. There Their They're.

[noiretextatique]

96. yes, and that group is called: racists

that's the ONLY group that tries to justify the murder of an unarmed teenager, simply because he was black.

[Skittles]

16. I don't care if Trayvon was walking to fucking Disneyland

he had a right to do it without being profiled, stalked and murdered a PARANOID GUN HUMPING PIECE OF SHIT

[bluesbassman]

18. Don't take the the bait Skittles...

It's not worth your time.

[Skittles]

73. aw fuck it

sometimes even a hide is worth outing these f - rs

[bluesbassman]

77. I hear ya...

I know you ain't afraid of getting your hands dirty.

[Rex]

103. It's just sad to watch them hate on a dead kid.

Natural instinct is to fight back...but you are right so not worth it in the long run.

[Boom Sound 416]

22. I only commented on what

You wrote as fact to what Trayvon was thinking and his emotional state.

It's you supposition.

[noiretextatique]

65. it makes far more sense than zimmerman's self-serving tale

unless you believe an unarmed teenager could not possibly be afraid of an armed man.

[sabrina 1]

19. Was there some law regarding this one teenager that required that he 'be going home' or else 'die'?

What is your point? Supposedly, though it appears not to be true for everyone, Americans are free to walk wherever they want to walk without being shot to death.

[CreekDog]

61. Boom Sound has made a form of the argument, "he shouldn't have been there" about Trayvon

[noiretextatique]

67. no fear for Trayvon Martin

the poster took issue with the suggestion that Trayvon Martin was afraid of the asshole with the gun. apparently, black male teenagers cannot be afraid, and black female teenagers cannot be witnesses.

[Skittles]

80. black teenagers in hoodies must be up to no good

that's how gun humpers think

[noiretextatique]

81. that clearly was the insinuation

the lack of empathy is scary.

[Skittles]

79. one was unarmed minding his own business; the other was armed and looking for trouble

THAT is the bottom line

[Rex]

104. Oh noes...he is flagged for review.

Poor, poor Boom...all he wanted to do was remind us of the speculation by people like Foxnews and Zimmerman.

No doubt that was his intentions. Yup.

[demmiblue]

112. And, unbelievably, back again.

[sabrina 1]

113. Has he ever explained why Zimmerman was there, after being instructed NOT to be there

by the police? I would ask him personally, but he's no longer able to respond in this thread.

[CreekDog]

114. he can respond in November

you might have to write yourself a note to remember!

[gollygee]

63. +1

He didn't go straight home when running away from a creepy and threatening guy with a gun? That must prove he had some nefarious plans for his iced tea and skittles, and therefore deserved execution without trial or jury. /sarcasm

[csziggy]

97. Why didn't George Zimmerman just go to Target?

If he had done that as he claimed he planned, instead of following a young man that he did NOT see doing anything illegal, Trayvon Martin would still be alive, the Zimmerman family would still be living a normal life and we would not have to hear about George's problems.

[LanternWaste]

17. Agenda's of the sub-literate half-wit are easily recognized as the obvious bumper-sticker wit it is.

Agenda's of the sub-literate half-wit are easily recognized as the obvious bumper-sticker wit it is...

Not that you have an agenda, mind you.

[LanternWaste]

29. Potsy is beginning to get the point! Now if he would begin applying it to himself.

Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

Potsy is beginning to get the point! Now if he would begin applying it to himself. Bless his little self-importance.

(insert additional irrelevancy to maintain pretense you are contributing anything substantive to OP)

[Boom Sound 416]

33. Just say three more times

And don't forget to click your heels

[LanternWaste]

38. And there it is!

And there it is!

[CreekDog]

85. he accused you of making a "World Salad"

LOL.

am I wrong to laugh at a misspelled accusation? is it wrong to laugh at something unintended?

[Skittles]

87. it's hard not to laugh when someone is wrong on so many levels

yes indeed

[pintobean]

90. Apparently

[arcane1]

34. He didn't lure the gunman to his home? Shrewd move IMO.

[Boom Sound 416]

37. That's at least original. NT

[arcane1]

42. Because we all know he deserved to be shot for NOT going home.

[Boom Sound 416]

43. Bye bye rails!

Oh well

[mercuryblues]

54. yeah

getting shot and killed may have had a little something to do with that.

[Boom Sound 416]

56. I think their is a cart, horse issue with that statement

[aquamarina]

66. Dude, it's "there" not "their"

[Hassin Bin Sober]

92. Yeah. That's like the third or fourth time in this thread.

Once or twice is a typo.

And he's accusing someone of typing "world (sic) salad"

[CreekDog]

100. Look at this mess. A pointless diversion to make sure any negatives about Zimmerman

don't happen unless a subthread denigrating Trayvon Martin is included.

all it did was cause arguments that consumed about half the thread, this on purpose.

[mercuryblues]

76. what ever you say

Just make sure you keep saying that. You might actually believe it yourself someday.

The kid was on his way home from the store, when he was murdered. The murder prevented him from actually going home. Dead men tell no tales, they also don't walk.

Poor baby zimmy. he couldn't go home and mind his own business. He had to be the "hero". The problem with that for him is the press has run dry and moved on to another story. He is trying to get that high back. Only next time, SYG might not work out in his favor.

[tazkcmo]

64. And that called

for his death. OK.

[leftynyc]

71. What are you babbling about? (n/t)

[ZombieHorde]

115. This whole subthread makes no sense to me.

I don't know why I am telling you this. I guess because you're post is at the bottom of it.

The subthread seems to be more about us than Martin and Zimmerman, but the emotions come from the killing.

[leftynyc]

116. Doesn't make sense to me either

but I addressed to the poster who started the nonsense trying to get to the bottom of it. I see they're nowhere to be found here.

[Corgigal]

10. Yeah he could do that

OR crap his pants.

Flip a coin.

[ecstatic]

11. This guy is a menace, and when he inevitably hurts/kills someone else,

the local DA will should also be charged and held responsible. GZ has now offered himself up on a silver platter to the local DAs at least 4 times: The domestic incident with his wife, domestic incident with his mistress, making himself the armed security guard of a gun store, and the stalking/road rage incident.

[Feral Child]

15. Survival tips

from a Summer Blockbuster"!

Clowns.

+, the "FBI" knows he's a trigger-happy Onanist and will be quite prepared for his fantasy-gunfight.

'"...he's probably gonna shoot a few of them,"' Fat chance, Killer.

FBI Academy training versus watching "Argo". Yeah, that's going to turn out well for George Gun-In-His-Pants.

[closeupready]

20. People bemoan our culture of celebrity worship - yet,

here we are, obsessing over the infamous, to much the same effect, at the same cost as it would be if we focused, instead, on stuff that actually MATTERS, like - just as an example - how many people were killed in car accidents on our highways yesterday? How much gun violence claims innocent lives yesterday?

But no, let's focus on these d-bags because, hey, .... what? It's fun to have a verbal punching bag?

[TBF]

24. We can only hope he tries that -

Unfortunately I think his attention- seeking gene will overrule the death wish gene.

[Laxman]

26. The GQ Article Is Fairly Disturbing....

the Zimmerman family sees themselves as the victims. They have no empathy for the Martin family-even exhibiting jealousy of them. Grifters who ran up a $3,600 dollar bill on CNN's tab that included wallets and cologne from the hotel gift shop. They're all packing weapons everywhere they go. (their "babies&quot They're all paranoid. They wanted the reporter from GQ to wear a hood over his head and leave his cell phone home before they would agree to meet with him. What a sorry bunch of human beings. My nature tells me to have some sympathy for the family since they weren't the ones who shot Treyvon Martin and didn't ask for the circumstances they find themselves in, but they all seem to be just as disgusting as George.

This much is certain: The Zimmermans rarely venture out of that small house in central Florida. They are isolated and bored. They pass the time caring for Gladys's mom and watching Spanish-language telenovelas and Duck Dynasty and Real Housewives and Fox News. George, unbelievably, seems to be back in neighborhood-watchman mode; this summer the police found him sitting in his truck outside a friend's motorcycle shop in the middle of the night. For a few concentrated months, the Zimmermans were a twenty-four-seven cable-news fascination, which can be intoxicating and terrifying all at once. But that's over now. The country has mostly moved on, to Ferguson, to Michael Brown, to the next shooting death of a teenage kid, the next Trayvon Martin, the next George Zimmerman.

Maybe George's relatives are right about the risk to their lives—maybe it still exists as much as it ever did. Or maybe it's just a way for the Zimmermans to feel as if they still matter. Maybe their paranoia, and all the rules and routines that it requires, just gives them something to do.

This family would make a perfect match for the Palins-or maybe it would be extraordinarily dangerous for them to get together-like the Gate Keeper and the Key Master from Ghostbusters.

[LanternWaste]

47. Some small cable-television producer is salivating at the thought of the Zimmerman Show

A part of me thinks that some small cable-television producer is salivating at the thought of the Zimmerman Show-- he travels with guns and his star-spangled awesome love of everything not black in this country talking to "just plain folk", while the PR department at the station is weeping in a three-part chorus.

[Boom Sound 416]

58. It would've happened by now

[CreekDog]

82. who comes into a thread like this, with a story in the OP like the one we read

For the purpose of casting aspersions on Trayvon Martin? It doesn't even make sense.

[CreekDog]

108. what does your screen name mean?

The Heckler & Koch HK416 is an assault rifle/carbine designed and manufactured by Heckler & Koch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_HK416#HK416_based_derivates

is that it?

[Skip Intro]

118. You crack me up with your imagined authority.

Like anyone needs to explain themselves to you.

[LanternWaste]

117. I'm sure more than one producer has already salivated; unless of course you simply misread again...

I'm sure more than one producer has already salivated; unless of course you simply misread again, and inferred my guess was that a show would in fact, be made rather than a producer salivating at the thought...

[CentralMass]

89. Zeul and Goser the Goserian (sp?)

[Politicalboi]

28. Isn't that a threat to the FBI

I know if the FBI were to come to my door, I wouldn't even think of shooting them. I don't even own a "precious" gun.

[libodem]

55. The 'Cliven Bundy' Factor

For some reason these gun nuts get a free pass by LE and the alphabet agencies.

Zimmermans don't fit the current version of how a homegrown, survivalist, white supremacy, neonazi, terrorist looks.

The media makes up terms like Islamofascist to really scare the shit out of a code brown forecaster.

[Baitball Blogger]

30. Every irrational decision that right-wingers make is relegated on a premise of fear.

It is a terrible thing when the person has the power to infect others with his or her concerns.

[arcane1]

44. Fear is ALL THEY HAVE!!!

[Baitball Blogger]

46. It is, unfortunately, a way to control people.

I see it operating at all levels in society.

[arcane1]

48. Sad but true. Commercials, local news, you name it.

Humans are pretty damned easy

[LanternWaste]

31. Zimmerman's irrational paranoia was brought on by nothing else other than his own actions

Zimmerman's irrational paranoia was brought on by nothing else other than his own actions.

[PeoViejo]

32. They watched Argo?

Argo fuck yourself...

That movie is full of bull. I worked on that project. Tony Mendez is a real Hero, but what they portrayed in the movie was mostly fictional. Good entertainment, but that's about it.

[FSogol]

62. Even if Argo was 100% spot on about CIA methods, it is 33 years out of date.

Knowing a procedure from 1981 does not equal knowing what Feds would do in 2014.

[PeoViejo]

68. True that

Tony Mendez is a good guy, but he's also a loyal Company guy. He would never talk out of school.

[JI7]

39. fuck this fucked up shitty ass murderous thug family, every fucking one of them

[Initech]

40. Stand Your Ground is an awful idea.

We need a SCOTUS decision over turning this law ASAP. Or expect more wannabe revolutionaries like the Cliven Bundys, Alex Jones, and George Zimmermans of the world to think that they can engage in sn all out war against us.

[NightWatcher]

49. watched a movie to see how the CIA live? I hope his 'go bag' has a pair of new undies

Because if the feds should decide to raid his house, all he'll be able to manage is shitting his drawers.

Also, why is he expecting the feds to raid his house? feeling guilty bout something? Nope, probably just delusions of persecution and grandeur that accompany nutters like him.

[3catwoman3]

50. If they are interviewing lowlifes...

...like the Zimmerman's the magazine title Gentleman's Quarterly might need to be changed. Maybe, Thug's Quarterly?

[gordianot]

53. I always figured he would kill someone in a domestic abuse situation probably wrong.

This guy has an ego that knows no bounds and he wants to hurt someone or just about anyone including himself. What drives him to think his miserable life is of more value than anyone else. That family created this monster now it looks like they will either live or die with it when it turns on them. George needs to go to prison to protect the public any prison even a protected setting will be difficult for him. Unfortunately George continually gets passes, no one wants him. This almost sounds like a death wish by cop. Unemployable, incapable of establishing a relationship, delusional, and isolated what a horror story.

[Jefferson23]

57. Holy shit, so his entire family is feeding into paranoia..they may be more dangerous now than before

Trayvon was murdered. I guess the father can speculate like this to the press and the idiot son George
can keep his weapons regardless. Wonderful to know how stable they all are.

"if FBI agents come and kick in his door, he's probably gonna shoot a few of them," Robert Zimmerman said, according to GQ.

[noiretextatique]

60. he was not a neighborhood watchman when he murdered Trayvon Martin

i don't know why they keep repeating that lie.

[csziggy]

98. He should be called a vigilante

But I bet the spell checkers can't handle it.

For the first few months the news groups usually threw in "self appointed" in front of neighborhood watchman, but I think they got bored with it. Plus the phrase to too long for the short pieces that Zimmerman usually rates.

[tanyev]

69. There's one easy way to solve the fear of shooting FBI agents.

Put the guns down, George. You're living in a fantasy world of your own paranoid creation.

[jwirr]

70. Live like CIA. They are still playing cops and robbers. Geo is going to kill some innocent person

one of these days because of his guilty conscience. Well the FBI has been forewarned.

[giftedgirl77]

72. Well at least the FBI will be ready to act accordingly.

The whole family's psycho.

[mercuryblues]

75. I have a sick

sense of humor. I think it would be funny if a few dark SUV's with people in suits would park near there house at random times. Then just drive off.

[Kalidurga]

88. Only if it's bullet proof

then it would be hilarious.

[diabeticman]

78. And this man WAS a Judge at one time?

[KansDem]

83. That reminds me: what ever happened to the al-Bundy terrorists?

[Lil Missy]

84. He will be going the way of OJ Simpson some day. n/t

[ohnoyoudidnt]

86. Thanks for warning them.

Hopefully, this story ends with only 1 more body.

[Live and Learn]

91. It seems clear that this entire family suffered paranoia

even before the murder. What family would approve of their son playing neighborhood watch armed with a gun? Anyone that would waste their time and energy doing so is obviously in need of help. And those that surround the individual and don't see anything wrong probably need it too.

[Aerows]

94. What a wretched hive

of nutbaggery.

[winter is coming]

99. Oh, bullshit. Change your name and move to a different state.

No one gives a shit about you, George.

[Rex]

105. George "I Kill Kids With My Guuuun" Zimmerman?

That guy?

[Hubert Flottz]

106. The coward dies a thousand deaths.

I hope he has a long and fucked up life. I hope not a day or night goes by, that he don't see Trayvon Martin's ghost stalking him everywhere he turns.

[Barack_America]

111. OMG, what pathetic idiots.

The fact they were willing to divulge their "survival tactics" to a reporter, for national publication, tells everything here. They don't really think they are in danger, they just wish anyone still cared about them enough for them to be.

"Don't divulge your location by text or cell phone". Haha, hey ass-hats, do you know how well cell towers are able to triangulate your position without you saying a damned thing? But then, again, considering Argo took place in 1980, I guess it couldn't warn you of that.