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babylonsister

(171,074 posts)
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 02:03 PM Sep 2014

Ted Cruz's Advisers Say He's Running for President


http://politicalwire.com/archives/2014/09/29/cruzs_advisers_say_hes_running_for_president.html


September 29, 2014

Cruz's Advisers Say He's Running for President

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) "is running for president. The only thing left for him to do is say so," National Journal reports.

"According to sources close to the Texas senator, Cruz could be preparing for an end-of-year announcement and is now dedicating considerable time and effort to cultivating a foreign-policy foundation that might help his candidacy stand out in what is guaranteed to be a crowded field."

Said one adviser: "At this point it's 90/10 he's in. And honestly, 90 is lowballing it."
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Ted Cruz's Advisers Say He's Running for President (Original Post) babylonsister Sep 2014 OP
I'll be waiting with bated breath sharp_stick Sep 2014 #1
o please o please o please o please o please WilliamPitt Sep 2014 #2
Haha! babylonsister Sep 2014 #14
You beat me to it. RUN, TEDDY, RUN! 11 Bravo Sep 2014 #18
The Crazy Train is leaving the station. nt TeamPooka Sep 2014 #3
............ trusty elf Sep 2014 #7
!!! Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #27
He's ineligible derby378 Sep 2014 #4
+birth in Canada JCMach1 Sep 2014 #9
Exactly derby378 Sep 2014 #11
Apparently his Mother was born in Delaware, and a citizen tkmorris Sep 2014 #19
President of Nutbars Anonymous, maybe. Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #5
Cartoonists everywhere are cheering for it n/t n2doc Sep 2014 #6
As long as frothy is running I'm happy snooper2 Sep 2014 #8
thoughts of Cruz vs. Santorum JCMach1 Sep 2014 #10
Will he make more of an impact that Herman Caine or Rick Santorum? FSogol Sep 2014 #12
That really depends on the height from which you drop them. Half-Century Man Sep 2014 #23
LOL, not that we recommend anyone do that.... FSogol Sep 2014 #24
Not an endorsement, just an observation. Half-Century Man Sep 2014 #25
I suspect even republicans will hate his smarmy face by the time it's time to vote for him arcane1 Sep 2014 #13
cruz/palin...dumb and dumber than shit spanone Sep 2014 #15
What if by some accident of history he was elected President of the United States? Douglas Carpenter Sep 2014 #16
I would seriously look into... 3catwoman3 Sep 2014 #37
I fully support Cruz as the GOP nominee. Good luck freaky weirdo! nt tridim Sep 2014 #17
He is the darling of the Tea Party. Half-Century Man Sep 2014 #20
I thought Canada had Prime Ministers? NightWatcher Sep 2014 #21
Doesn't Canada use a king? Initech Sep 2014 #29
Is that a picture of their King? Isn't his name Tim Horton? NightWatcher Sep 2014 #30
Ted Cruz makes Rand Paul seem sane which is a scary proposition on its own. LonePirate Sep 2014 #22
Which is exactly why Cruz intends to run. Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #40
Say it ain't so. One can make huge sums of money running, just ask Palin. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #26
How? The Constitution says he can't run. Period. Initech Sep 2014 #28
If they did, Politicalboi Sep 2014 #32
Oh god could you imagine an Arnold Schwarzenegger presidency? Initech Sep 2014 #36
Cruz's mother was born and raised in Wilmington, Delaware Douglas Carpenter Sep 2014 #34
Not sure...the law may have been changed but... sdfernando Sep 2014 #39
CNN says the Canadian Chickenhawk is "natural born." MADem Sep 2014 #47
With Cruz and Palin the Republicans have a deep bench. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #31
Thanks for the great news! :) Takket Sep 2014 #33
Don't they call it "prime minister" in Canada? Erose999 Sep 2014 #35
Of this, I have no doubt. Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #38
I am already looking forward to the debates. Glimmer of Hope Sep 2014 #41
Cruz is eligible, although with a small asterisk. Jim Lane Sep 2014 #42
That guy would never win the nomination , bet he's out after the first debate dontshoot Sep 2014 #43
The GOP could provide us with quite an entertaining circular firing squad spectacle in 2016. tritsofme Sep 2014 #44
Cruz, Ryan, and Paul: Yes, the "serious thinkers" of the GOP. Efilroft Sul Sep 2014 #45
He's King of the Seven Mountains don't you know. Kingofalldems Sep 2014 #46

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
1. I'll be waiting with bated breath
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 02:08 PM
Sep 2014

for Sheriff Joe and his merry band of birth certificate fuckwits to team up with Dentist/Lawyer/Moonbat Orly Taitz in denouncing any candidacy.

That being said I think he can run legally and I think watching this egomaniacal piece of shit implode in public will be a joy.

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
2. o please o please o please o please o please
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 02:11 PM
Sep 2014

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derby378

(30,252 posts)
4. He's ineligible
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 02:14 PM
Sep 2014

If neither parent was an American citizen at the time of his birth, neither was he. Nice try.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
11. Exactly
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 02:19 PM
Sep 2014

Let him move back to Calgary and run for mayor or something, and leave us the hell alone.

tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
19. Apparently his Mother was born in Delaware, and a citizen
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 03:01 PM
Sep 2014

Therefore, so is Rafael (Ted) Cruz even though he was born in Canada. Not that it matters, the man is a complete loon. I hope he runs just to make the debates more entertaining.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
25. Not an endorsement, just an observation.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 03:20 PM
Sep 2014

You have to set up the test correctly to have accurate results.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
13. I suspect even republicans will hate his smarmy face by the time it's time to vote for him
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 02:25 PM
Sep 2014

He's annoying and obnoxious, and has the presence of a snobby man-child. He'll be a turn-off.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
16. What if by some accident of history he was elected President of the United States?
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 02:37 PM
Sep 2014

I'm not suggesting that is very likely. But, stranger things have happened in the course of human events.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
20. He is the darling of the Tea Party.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 03:15 PM
Sep 2014

His presidential run could destroy them forever. Talk about Democratic motivation.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
40. Which is exactly why Cruz intends to run.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 06:00 PM
Sep 2014

The GOP wants to make the looniest loon spew bovine excrement on political positions that are even farther to the right of Bush, McCain, and Romney, and that way then, the other nut -- that is just to that loon's left -- doesn't look so cotton pickin' nutty.

All they are doing is trying to move the Overton window farther and farther to the right on the political spectrum.

The problem is, the GOP has a boatload of whacko loons from which to pick from, so their so-called "base" is going to have a hard time deciding on which one of these crazy knuckleheads to get behind in 2016.



Initech

(100,081 posts)
28. How? The Constitution says he can't run. Period.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 03:38 PM
Sep 2014

He can renounce Canada all he wants, doesn't change the fact that he's not a natural born citizen. Unless they were to amend the Constitution, and given the way conservatives work, we know that ain't happening before 2016.

Initech

(100,081 posts)
36. Oh god could you imagine an Arnold Schwarzenegger presidency?
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 04:08 PM
Sep 2014

Late night comedians would have no shortage of material, especially my two favorite podcast hosts Kevin Smith and Ralph Garmin.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
34. Cruz's mother was born and raised in Wilmington, Delaware
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 03:51 PM
Sep 2014

He could claim natural born U.S. Citizenship by virtue of being born to a natural born American citizen mother.

sdfernando

(4,935 posts)
39. Not sure...the law may have been changed but...
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 05:46 PM
Sep 2014

If not his situation could be similar to mine. My father was in the military, both my parents were born in the US. I was born in an Army hospital in Munich. Tricky thing is that the hospital was not on base but in the actual city of Munich, not far from the center of town. I have naturalization papers and so far as I know, not considered a "natural born citizen" although I am a US citizen. My father also had to register my birth with the U.S. Embassy and I have a certificate stating such.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
38. Of this, I have no doubt.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 05:42 PM
Sep 2014

There isn't a hat made big enough for Cruz's big head (ego).

And the fact that Senator "Green Eggs and Ham" shut down the federal government last year by doing a "semi filibuster" is just proof that there was more than one village in Texas missing their idiot!!

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
42. Cruz is eligible, although with a small asterisk.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 06:23 PM
Sep 2014

Contrary to what some birthers argued -- that Obama was ineligible even if born in Hawaii, because his father was a UK citizen -- the Constitution doesn't require two citizen parents plus birth in the US, which is the standard some wanted to apply.

Absent a definition in the Constitution, the sensible interpretation of "natural born citizen" is that the person was a citizen automatically at birth, regardless of subsequent naturalization or change in the law.

In the case of a child born abroad to one citizen and one noncitizen parent, the law several decades ago (when both Obama and Cruz were born) was that the child was a citizen at birth provided that the citizen parent met certain requirements, including having lived in the United States for at least five years after attaining the age of 14.

This is why the place of Obama's birth mattered. His mother was only 18, so she couldn't meet the requirement for conveying citizenship. If he had been born in Kenya, he would not have been eligible. (Of course, that the question was relevant doesn't make it the least bit sensible, given the evidence concerning Obama's place of birth.)

Cruz, by contrast, was born in Canada when his mother was older; she graduated from Rice University 14 years before Cruz was born. She was old enough to meet the US residency requirement, and there's no good-faith question that she did meet it. She lived here her whole life except for a period of several years in Canada. By that standard, Cruz is eligible.

The asterisk is: Where is the burden of proof, and could Ted Cruz meet it? Could his mother, Eleanor now produce old utility bills or rent receipts to prove that she lived in the US for at least five years between her fourteenth birthday and 1970, when Cruz was born? Proving where you were so long ago might be difficult.

Another complication: I think (not sure of this) that there was a procedure in place at the time but that it wasn't used. Eleanor could have gone to a U.S. consulate and completed a registration form to establish her child's citizenship. Presumably, the consulate could have determined the facts much more easily at the time. If there was such a procedure and if Cruz's mother didn't bother using it, does that now disqualify Cruz from being President?

My bottom line is that it's pretty clear Cruz is eligible and he shouldn't be disqualified by some silly argument that maybe his mother stealthily lived abroad for many years with no one having any record or evidence of that. My bottom line is also that Cruz would be among the easier Republicans to beat and that we should be rooting for his candidacy.

tritsofme

(17,380 posts)
44. The GOP could provide us with quite an entertaining circular firing squad spectacle in 2016.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 06:34 PM
Sep 2014

There's not much love lost between these guys, (Cruz, Christie, Paul et al) it could get really nasty, while Hillary skates toward the general election.

Efilroft Sul

(3,579 posts)
45. Cruz, Ryan, and Paul: Yes, the "serious thinkers" of the GOP.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 06:51 PM
Sep 2014

Their mental firepower is almost as formidable as Bachmann, Perry, and Santorum.

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