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http://politicalwire.com/archives/2014/09/29/cruzs_advisers_say_hes_running_for_president.html
September 29, 2014
Cruz's Advisers Say He's Running for President
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) "is running for president. The only thing left for him to do is say so," National Journal reports.
"According to sources close to the Texas senator, Cruz could be preparing for an end-of-year announcement and is now dedicating considerable time and effort to cultivating a foreign-policy foundation that might help his candidacy stand out in what is guaranteed to be a crowded field."
Said one adviser: "At this point it's 90/10 he's in. And honestly, 90 is lowballing it."
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)for Sheriff Joe and his merry band of birth certificate fuckwits to team up with Dentist/Lawyer/Moonbat Orly Taitz in denouncing any candidacy.
That being said I think he can run legally and I think watching this egomaniacal piece of shit implode in public will be a joy.
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o please o
babylonsister
(171,074 posts)11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)trusty elf
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Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)derby378
(30,252 posts)If neither parent was an American citizen at the time of his birth, neither was he. Nice try.
JCMach1
(27,559 posts)so correct
Let him move back to Calgary and run for mayor or something, and leave us the hell alone.
tkmorris
(11,138 posts)Therefore, so is Rafael (Ted) Cruz even though he was born in Canada. Not that it matters, the man is a complete loon. I hope he runs just to make the debates more entertaining.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)Lunatic freak.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)JCMach1
(27,559 posts)yikes!
That would be a barnfull of shite to shovel
FSogol
(45,491 posts)Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)As well as the target surface.
FSogol
(45,491 posts)Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)You have to set up the test correctly to have accurate results.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)He's annoying and obnoxious, and has the presence of a snobby man-child. He'll be a turn-off.
spanone
(135,846 posts)Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)I'm not suggesting that is very likely. But, stranger things have happened in the course of human events.
3catwoman3
(24,007 posts)...emigrating.
tridim
(45,358 posts)Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)His presidential run could destroy them forever. Talk about Democratic motivation.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Initech
(100,081 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)LonePirate
(13,426 posts)Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)The GOP wants to make the looniest loon spew bovine excrement on political positions that are even farther to the right of Bush, McCain, and Romney, and that way then, the other nut -- that is just to that loon's left -- doesn't look so cotton pickin' nutty.
All they are doing is trying to move the Overton window farther and farther to the right on the political spectrum.
The problem is, the GOP has a boatload of whacko loons from which to pick from, so their so-called "base" is going to have a hard time deciding on which one of these crazy knuckleheads to get behind in 2016.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)Initech
(100,081 posts)He can renounce Canada all he wants, doesn't change the fact that he's not a natural born citizen. Unless they were to amend the Constitution, and given the way conservatives work, we know that ain't happening before 2016.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Arnold would be back!!!!!
Initech
(100,081 posts)Late night comedians would have no shortage of material, especially my two favorite podcast hosts Kevin Smith and Ralph Garmin.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)He could claim natural born U.S. Citizenship by virtue of being born to a natural born American citizen mother.
sdfernando
(4,935 posts)If not his situation could be similar to mine. My father was in the military, both my parents were born in the US. I was born in an Army hospital in Munich. Tricky thing is that the hospital was not on base but in the actual city of Munich, not far from the center of town. I have naturalization papers and so far as I know, not considered a "natural born citizen" although I am a US citizen. My father also had to register my birth with the U.S. Embassy and I have a certificate stating such.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Takket
(21,578 posts)Erose999
(5,624 posts)Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)There isn't a hat made big enough for Cruz's big head (ego).
And the fact that Senator "Green Eggs and Ham" shut down the federal government last year by doing a "semi filibuster" is just proof that there was more than one village in Texas missing their idiot!!
Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Contrary to what some birthers argued -- that Obama was ineligible even if born in Hawaii, because his father was a UK citizen -- the Constitution doesn't require two citizen parents plus birth in the US, which is the standard some wanted to apply.
Absent a definition in the Constitution, the sensible interpretation of "natural born citizen" is that the person was a citizen automatically at birth, regardless of subsequent naturalization or change in the law.
In the case of a child born abroad to one citizen and one noncitizen parent, the law several decades ago (when both Obama and Cruz were born) was that the child was a citizen at birth provided that the citizen parent met certain requirements, including having lived in the United States for at least five years after attaining the age of 14.
This is why the place of Obama's birth mattered. His mother was only 18, so she couldn't meet the requirement for conveying citizenship. If he had been born in Kenya, he would not have been eligible. (Of course, that the question was relevant doesn't make it the least bit sensible, given the evidence concerning Obama's place of birth.)
Cruz, by contrast, was born in Canada when his mother was older; she graduated from Rice University 14 years before Cruz was born. She was old enough to meet the US residency requirement, and there's no good-faith question that she did meet it. She lived here her whole life except for a period of several years in Canada. By that standard, Cruz is eligible.
The asterisk is: Where is the burden of proof, and could Ted Cruz meet it? Could his mother, Eleanor now produce old utility bills or rent receipts to prove that she lived in the US for at least five years between her fourteenth birthday and 1970, when Cruz was born? Proving where you were so long ago might be difficult.
Another complication: I think (not sure of this) that there was a procedure in place at the time but that it wasn't used. Eleanor could have gone to a U.S. consulate and completed a registration form to establish her child's citizenship. Presumably, the consulate could have determined the facts much more easily at the time. If there was such a procedure and if Cruz's mother didn't bother using it, does that now disqualify Cruz from being President?
My bottom line is that it's pretty clear Cruz is eligible and he shouldn't be disqualified by some silly argument that maybe his mother stealthily lived abroad for many years with no one having any record or evidence of that. My bottom line is also that Cruz would be among the easier Republicans to beat and that we should be rooting for his candidacy.
dontshoot
(63 posts)tritsofme
(17,380 posts)There's not much love lost between these guys, (Cruz, Christie, Paul et al) it could get really nasty, while Hillary skates toward the general election.
Efilroft Sul
(3,579 posts)Their mental firepower is almost as formidable as Bachmann, Perry, and Santorum.