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Dan de Lyons

(52 posts)
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 01:44 PM Sep 2014

Could civilian body cams slow down ISIS?

An intrepid Syrian woman put on a body cam under her niqab and walked through the neighborhood, capturing a record of what it is like to live under ISIS.

Not everyone is happy under ISIS, and ISIS is itself a coalition that could develop internal differences, once the head sees what the feet are doing.

$38 buys a little police body cam on Amazon. $5000 would buy a hundred. $50,000 might provide a terrific video stream that could let the quality of life for people on the ground determine who governs them. A group-sourced project for just a hundred cams could make a difference.

For distribution, contact the middle eastern students organization at your nearest university. They will know who to talk to.

$500 would buy ten.

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Could civilian body cams slow down ISIS? (Original Post) Dan de Lyons Sep 2014 OP
If $38 buys one, ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #1
Overhead Dan de Lyons Sep 2014 #5
If people could be convinced to wear one Feral Child Sep 2014 #2
Yeah, if we've learned anything about ISIS, it's that they care about their press. Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #3
It's not a bad idea greytdemocrat Sep 2014 #4
I find it comical, in a very sad way, that Ray Rice Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #7
When do we begin bombing Baltimore? GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #8
Until ISIS starts searching for body cams and stages some pubic executions. nt hack89 Sep 2014 #6
Dear hack, OldEurope Oct 2014 #11
I would go for the Makers Mark myself hack89 Oct 2014 #12
the real target of this war is Assad KurtNYC Sep 2014 #9
Assad and the Alloween Dan de Lyons Oct 2014 #10
Are Islamic women allowed to have Paypal accounts? randome Oct 2014 #13

Feral Child

(2,086 posts)
2. If people could be convinced to wear one
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 02:17 PM
Sep 2014

what good would the resulting video do, how could it be used?

Even if the people could be convinced, wouldn't IS conceivably impose very harsh retaliation if they were caught with one?

I suspect all our Intel clowns would get is streaming atrocity.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
3. Yeah, if we've learned anything about ISIS, it's that they care about their press.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 02:19 PM
Sep 2014

My guess is that those cameras would be classified as "infidel" once even one was discovered, and
there'd be even more mass graves to be dug.

greytdemocrat

(3,299 posts)
4. It's not a bad idea
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 02:21 PM
Sep 2014

Till ISIS starts chopping up people found with them
and then that'll be the end of that.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
7. I find it comical, in a very sad way, that Ray Rice
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 02:30 PM
Sep 2014

can punch a woman on camera and most of America pretty much wants him
utterly ruined, no matter how penitent he might actually be. Do not let him
earn another dime and toss him in the slammer for as long as allowable plus a
day.

But ISIS cuts people's fucking heads off on camera and there's this dithering:
maybe if we stow a camera on people, it'll make clear how ISIS actually treats
people when no one is watching. You know, so we can see what their human
rights practices are when they're not sawing people's fucking heads off. Because
then we might be convinced that these are bad people. On par with Ray Rice. THAT
sort of bad.

Maybe these cameras need to be purchased for and worn by women and children in
the United States, so we can get a grip on THOSE human rights violations, where
they occur and when.

OldEurope

(1,273 posts)
11. Dear hack,
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 07:57 AM
Oct 2014

...now I need a bottle of Jack to get that terrible picture of a pubic execution out of my head.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
9. the real target of this war is Assad
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 04:54 PM
Sep 2014

US is already proposing a "no fly zone" for Syria. We never made a case against Assad, not even talking about him now but ISIS has provided the excuse to bomb Syria and, perhaps soon, tell them they can't fly and defend themselves from Saudi and Qatar funded insurgents in their own country.

When Assad's secular government falls there will likely be Sunni extremists running Syria. The rest of this stuff is just camera-fodder.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/syria-no-fly-zone/

Dan de Lyons

(52 posts)
10. Assad and the Alloween
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 07:34 AM
Oct 2014

('Alloween' was how my college roommate from Aleppo spelled it..)

The Alloween were a warrior caste who became involved in government, eventually taking it over. My roommate's younger brother had an Alloween friend, and they hung out together until they got old enough to start dating, at which point they were no longer allowed to be friends.

So Assad's reign - and the innately undemocratic Alloween reign - are embedded in a caste system.

For those responding to my post who speak of ISIS fearfully, please know that there are those on the ground who are not so fearful as you, perhaps some who have lost siblings, and who could easily gather video. Fear is cause for caution, but inaction does not remove fear's cause.

A thirst - and a marketplace - for body cam video could make it happen in natural ways. If someone were to offer $100 per minute for quality video, payable over Paypal, the video would appear like magic. The same video, validated, could sell to the msm for much more.

Body cams will decline in cost, prices halving every two years for the simplest, like other tech gear. They will always be cheaper than phone cams. They can capture a strata of life not seen by the phone cams.

Given that it has great market value, body cam video may just simply appear more and more. This brave lady broke the ice.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
13. Are Islamic women allowed to have Paypal accounts?
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 09:29 AM
Oct 2014

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