Just because Obama won 2 elections, it doesn't mean our voting systems have been improved

[J_J_]

In fact, nothing has changed at all.

Even in states with paper ballots, they are still counted only on diebold accuvote machines.

It should be clear by now, that Obama is a part of the whole homeland world domination plan.

Perhaps they let Obama win so that they could blame everything on him, and use him as an excuse to spend even more money on military.


While everyone keeps talking about getting out the vote, Republicans are manufacturing consent that they will win.

Republicans own the polling, they own the media, they no longer do exit polls which was the canary in the coal mine.

[riqster]

1. Turnout is why we won. Most hacks need a narrow margin to work.

[Takket]

2. Let's not forget the effects of gerrymandering

I'm really surprised gerrymandering is not an issue the people of the US are not up in arms over. Maybe the average person is just too disengaged to notice.

that fact that Democrats drew a 48.8% to 47.6% advantage in house voting in 2012, but still own only 46.2% of the seats to the GOP's 53.8% means the unfair practice of using lines on a map to essentially disenfranchise voters is undermining the will of the people.

[rustydog]

3. Obama won because of the wide margin

It is the closer races where the cheating works. It is where they remove ballot boxes and make voters (Mostly minorities) wait for hours upon hours to do what is a constitutional guaranteed right.

If the vote is close in some states, diebold machines can make up the difference and the loser wins!

[Bluenorthwest]

4. No Diebold 'accuvote' tally mechanisms are used in Oregon, and no one provider provides

the tally systems used by each county. Each election there are randomly selected races in each county subjected to hand count. Yes we do tally the votes using machines as the primary method. It works just fine, thanks.
Here is a list of the tally mechanisms employed in each of our counties. Got one for your State it would be interesting to see.
http://voteoregon.org/files/pdf/EMOregonCountyVoteTallyEquipment.pdf