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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNBC ‘relieved’ that ‘Meet the Press’ is off this week
Isn't everybody?
NBC insiders are relieved to not have to suffer through another week of dull ratings for Meet the Press under new host Chuck Todd, sources sniped to Page Six.
In the wake of the programs third-place finish in the ratings last week, this Sundays broadcast will be pre-empted for the Ryder Cup golf tournament.
Political guru Todd scored a quick win in his Sept. 7 debut on MTP with an exclusive interview with President Obama, drawing nearly 3 million viewers. But hes since slipped to third place, grabbing only 2.4 million viewers for the Sept. 21 program. ABCs This Week With George Stephanopoulos scored 3 million viewers on the Sept. 21 show, while CBSs Face the Nation earned 2. 9 million viewers.
One media insider told us of NBC execs: They are quite relieved there is no broadcast given their showings in the ratings. They lost by a huge margin and have poured so much money into promotion and press that its a surprise theyre not doing a little better and werent able to hold any of the audience that tuned in for Todds premiere week.
More: http://pagesix.com/2014/09/28/nbc-relieved-that-ryder-cup-is-pre-empting-meet-the-press/
Rex
(65,616 posts)Pathetic.
AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)Why do all the networks push the Republican agenda when the GOP is so unpopular? Certainly it cannot be helping their ratings one bit.
You'd think at least one of the networks would try to serve the more liberal audience, but NOoooo.
It's not about ratings. They are the propaganda organs of the corporations that own them, and that role trumps everything else.
montanacowboy
(6,093 posts)did they really think that the Toad will bring ratings up? OMG, how much are these idiots paid?
2banon
(7,321 posts)John has years of interviewing experience and more intellectual acumen packed in his little pinky than all of those clowns put together. Not to mention the spinal wherewithal to call out bullshit when it's delivered.
Johonny
(20,851 posts)you wonder why aren't the networks trying to do that. They do bits the crush FOX fake news items, present liberal ideas as if they deserve coverage, and mix in good interviews. Yet the Networks would rather rehash the weeks top non stories created by FOX. If I needed to know what FOX thinks is news I'd just watch FOX.
Baitball Blogger
(46,736 posts)news in the only way that makes any sense! Our world has become so twisted and absurd, that the only thing to do is call it out on a comedy show.
2banon
(7,321 posts)I'm subscribed to John Oliver's show via youtube i think, (don't get cable/sat) and I've really been enjoying his weekly. He's as capable I think, certainly a thousand times more than the ass hats the network(s) trots out. Completely agree on all points with your post, especially with regard to the rehashing of FOX. INANE/INSANE!
Ampersand Unicode
(503 posts)They're probably in talks with Lorne Michaels to have Tina Fey and Amy Poehler replace Upchuck Toad (or just MTP entirely with Weekend Update). Or have Hashtag the dancing panda replace Brian Williams on Nightly News. Remember that "young viewers" were why they axed Leno in the first place (OK, second place), and replaced the blah boomer with Pee Wee Fallon. I'm probably in the minority but I can't abide any of them. I'm a millennial myself and don't want to believe my generation's viewing tastes are this dumb. But then, Kimye...
There's a reason why King Carson used to call this channel Nothing But Crap. Right now the only NBC product I watch is Rachel, and get my news online or from Stewart. (I don't have HBO so can't watch Oliver.) I'm sick of all the white-guy generic news shows and dopey sitcoms anyway. The peacock network is on life support and about to go the way of the dodo bird.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)aggiesal
(8,918 posts)only solidified the stupid.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)These people are too stupid to breathe.
They'll do everything to save this piece of crap until they've finished grooming baby russert to take over, but I doubt if it'll last that long.
LittleGirl
(8,287 posts)oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Wella
(1,827 posts)Lots of reasons for it.
rurallib
(62,423 posts)here's a thought - quit selling turds.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)You can "promo" until you're blue in the face. It won't make a damn bit of difference.
It's like the GOP.. They always think they can "fix it in marketing"...
Spazito
(50,365 posts)"...its a surprise theyre not doing a little better and werent able to hold any of the audience that tuned in for Todds premiere week.
People watched MTP when President Obama was on in spite of it being hosted by Todd NOT because of it. For them to be surprised shows how utterly unaware they are on why the show is horrid and in last place although choosing Todd as the replacement for Gregory already indicated they don't 'get it'.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Spazito
(50,365 posts)they are so oblivious as to the reasons the show is an abject failure, oblivious to the fact the public see how the show and its hosts favor the repub party and parrots its talking points.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Yeah, that must be it! Todd's just too edgy right now. Once the audience catches up to him, they'll see that Chuck is en fungo!
louis-t
(23,295 posts)gordianot
(15,240 posts)He had the opportunity of a lifetime to ask such questions that have bothered Obama's base such as why so few prosecutions of those who crashed the economy. Instead he tried to turn the tables on Obama with a Romney like gotcha insult "Why no mention of Syria?". I think Todd got a case of Benghazi fever with a dud right wing talking point that will never stick. Using a right wing talking point for short term gain doomed the Toad to irrelevance in short order forever, followed with the actual bombing of Syria a few weeks later made clearer Todd's lost opportunity. The chance to really make a name for himself are rare and probably will be much more rare with Todd in the future with high profile interviews. When Obama was interviewed by O'Reilly he had to to know all he would get were asinine insults and distortions, with Todd he got the same including a dip who did not listen to his own interview responses. Obama really does well with Right Wing hacks such as Todd. I would pay to see an interview with a Progressive or Liberal. Todd and his kind simply do not get it.
Cha
(297,323 posts)other choice. It's his nature.
Sounds like the President did well with 60 Minutes' Steve Kroft(I know another corp guy) tonight, too..
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/president-obama-60-minutes/
TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)Complete without talking points and ear buds!
Omaha Steve
(99,660 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)Chucky blew that first bonus interview with POTUS.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025502533
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Their ratings would skyrocket.
former9thward
(32,025 posts)Maddow's ratings are about 755,000 viewers. That is about 1/4 of Meet the Press.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2014/09/26/cable-news-ratings-for-thursday-september-25-2014/307209/
greyl
(22,990 posts)wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)what were Chuck Todd's ratings for the Daily Rundown?
JI7
(89,252 posts)who knew ?
former9thward
(32,025 posts)This is not 1980 anymore. If they have less ratings there is a reason for it.
JI7
(89,252 posts)catbyte
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DFW
(54,408 posts)It does NOT guarantee that a new host won't drive the car off a cliff. It took Gregory precious little time to discredit himself. It took Todd less than half his first show--with POTUS no less!-- to be, as Letterman so aptly put it, "on it."
Rachel Maddow is known for her partisanship, but so what? Gregory and Todd are, too. I doubt Rachel would give up her treasured weekends in the Berkshires to host MTP on Sundays, but if she did, MTP would have a host who is known for being factual, thorough, smart, witty, and for treating guests with "hostile" views politely and with decorum. MTP's producers have not shown any interest in such a host for many years, and with the choice of Chuck Todd, they indicate that they have not changed their preferences any.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)interwebs and NBC thought Rachel was too partisan. I guess being a stickler for facts and trying to discover the truth is considered partisan.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)The media owners DEMAND that journalists allow for the alternate reality created by corporatists and amplified by the Republican Party and neo-liberal Democrats be given legitimacy. No challenges allowed (except on VERY rare occasions). No follow-up analysis or questions allowed that challenges what they spew. They literally wash away historical perspective and simply regurgitate talking points in order to distract and divide the population. That's all they do now.
Bette Noir
(3,581 posts)Change has come
(2,372 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)That would increase the ratings.
wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I'll have to disagree with you on that one. Upchuck Todd has been around longer and has a record of saying really stupid things. Putting him in diapers would suit his personality.
Raine
(30,540 posts)wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)I didn't think it would get this messy so fast. I really thought it'd take at least half a year. Where will it be, one year from now? Will they have chucked Chuck by then?
valerief
(53,235 posts)Ice Road Trucking To Go Hand Fishing With Pawn Shop Khorasans.
If they want news for that time slot, they could always hire Amy Goodman.
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)A temp.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Conan , unlike Chuck, had talent. NBC just refused to kick Jay Leno off, even though he mercilessly kicked Johnny Carson off.
TeamPooka
(24,229 posts)And in the end Conan didn't get a bump that held.
Paar doubled Allen's ratings in 6 months.
Johnny doubled Paars numbers also in about 6 months.
Conan didn't hit the way Fallon has, increasing Jay's numbers from last year.
Either you have it or you don't for The Tonight Show and Conan didn't even though I was Team Coco.
NBC's historic mishandling of these jobs is a factor that needs to be understood here to.
Like picking Conan when they wouldn't stand by him is exactly why Chuck Todd should be very very worried and be keeping his resume up to date.
Ampersand Unicode
(503 posts)Not defending Leno, but Carson wanted to go out on top. He wanted Letterman for the job, but the brass had the final say.
That being said, ratings or no ratings, my blood pressure can't handle Pee Wee Fallon. That insufferable ADHD punk turned the Carson empire into a Nickelodeon show for special needs children. Who in their right mind jumps around like a kangaroo at quarter to midnight besides an inmate at a mental institution? He has lousy bands on, no-name actors that no one has ever heard of, and all that social media stuff in his routines tells me just how unprofessional he really is. The mere fact that he even has a Twitter account, let alone "crowd-sources" his "comedy" to the "folks at home," speaks volumes of what a no-talent hack he is. Then all he does with his bigger-name guests is gush and slobber all over them like an overzealous autograph seeker. I thought he was going to jump out of his seat and hump Paul McCartney. If NBC wanted to replace Leno with a guy who does impression voices, they should have hired Darrell Hammond. Or even Seth MacFarlane, as a last resort.
I seriously want Colbert to have him on as a guest on Late Show, just to punch him in his smug rubber face. He is an insult to the nation's intelligence. But then, so is the rest of NBC.
And I miss Craig Ferguson already.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)has been a casualty of the modern cable era. Why should I pretend to like any of the talking heads when I could watch somethign else to go to sleep to? The onyl late night show I miss now is Chelsea lately, and even that was because she had cmodians on that did alot of the heavy lifting, some of which, like Whitney Cummings and Chris hardwick, have gone on to become stars in their own right.
And I truly dread what will happen when Colbert hits mainstream network TV. They will NOT let him be as funny. On the other hand, when Jon Oliver went to HBO, he was let loose, and made some of the more funny and insightful tv, period.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)I believe that contributed to his decision to step down.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)I also thought that the late Tim Russert was very good.
The purpose of these shows is to book guests who are knowledgeable on current affairs to interview them and spur discussion. I think that Todd does a credible job with his interviews.
He typically poses relevant questions
that help frame current issues and that allow his guests to respond. The show is far more balanced the the right wing talk shows.
I am going to guess that the ratings will tick up.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)Extremely intelligent, well informed and doesn't lean left or right. He has a new venture he has started, so I am not sure he is in a position to do both things, but he really would be interesting. He could invite a guest co-host each week to contribute, and perhaps if that were the case, we could see Rachel Maddow sitting in that chair from time to time.
I think the producers of the show would not give the slot to Rachel Maddow because they fear a backlash from right-wing Republicans and the very conservative influences at Comcast.
Sam
demigoddess
(6,641 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)...in the large picture of things. Society has passed them by, and they only hold on by clawing to their remaining wealth. Their world view has been judged and found wanting.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Maybe even go back to the original format. Or just pack it in.
There's really nothing left of the old show except the name (MTPINO). So, calling it the longest running show on TV has been bogus anyway.
tooeyeten
(1,074 posts)Todd cannot carry this program, but it doesn't help that twice as many right wingers appear than the left. Generally same when Tim was host, MTP has always played to the right, the power brokers in DC, where the money is as those that's all who watch the program.
Have a suggestion? Maybe Rachel Maddow. That should make the Kochs heads spin.
marble falls
(57,106 posts)Dollface
(1,590 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)... and not let politcos just skate by with their sound bites.
Todd pisses me off a lot. He's obviously got brains, but he's so worried about alienating his subjects and maybe not getting invited to all the good parties, that he comes off as gutless and shallow. It makes me want to pull my hair out.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Carlin said of televised golf, "It's like watching flies fuck."
And THAT is better than the current MTP.
Now the really FUNNY thing is the Right is going around claiming the REASON MTP is is being rejected by the American People is because it's just too darn Liberal.
Dollface
(1,590 posts)catbyte
(34,403 posts)Come on--they didn't see this coming? Hell, I did.