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H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 06:07 PM Sep 2014

War & the Constitution

C-SPAN 2 is replaying a 9-16 debate on the role of war, Congress, the president, and the Constitution now (6 pm/est). It looks to be well worth watching, although the two panelists -- John Yoo and Bruce Fein -- may represent a limited scope in viewpoints.

Is anyone else watching this? Or watched it before?

Peace,
H2O Man

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NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. Here on the west coast it's playing now on Comcast Infinity, CH 16.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 06:45 PM
Sep 2014

I only now tuned in.

Too soon to gauge the respective points of view, but clearly AUMF and Article 1, Section 10 language is in play.

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a1_10_3s2.html

The discussion needs to continue, ideally beyond BookTV which, after all, has book sales as a part of the mission:

http://booktv.org/Program/16223/A+Debate+on+War+and+the+Constitution+with+John+Yoo+and+Bruce+Fein.aspx

The debate is well moderated, definitely worth the watch so far.

Recommended.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
3. I can't get it. Is it the Replay of Kennedy/Byrd Debates on Not Invading Iraq?
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 08:28 PM
Sep 2014


I can't get from OP what this is about. But,if it's about that Debate....it would be WELL WORTH WATCH....for those Newbies to this site to realize those incredibly Historic Speeches will go down in History......(many years from now) as one of America's Finest Moments before our Congress became something ALIEN TO THE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE.

sorry for full cap calling out of us congress.....it's so teeny.....well...lower case works..

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
6. No, here two authors discuss the merits/hazards/history of
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 08:44 PM
Sep 2014
A Debate on War and the Constitution with John Yoo and Bruce Fein

Bruce Fein; John Yoo

About the Program

John Yoo, author of "Point of Attack," and Bruce Fein, author of "Constitutional Peril," engage in a debate on war, foreign policy, the use of drones, and the meaning of the Constitution. This event, held at the National Press Club in Washington, DC, was hosted by the Committee for the Republic.

About the Authors

John Yoo

John Yoo served as assistant attorney general in the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel from 2001 to 2003.

Buy the author's book from: Amazon | Barnes & Noble | Indiebound

Bruce Fein

Bruce Fein served as associate deputy attorney general and general counsel to the Federal Communications Commission under President Reagan.

Buy the author's book from: Amazon | Barnes & Noble | Indiebound

http://booktv.org/Program/16223/A+Debate+on+War+and+the+Constitution+with+John+Yoo+and+Bruce+Fein.aspx


It may be viewable online, I haven't tried it.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
9. My pleasure, KoKo! I wasn't able to watch more than a couple minutes but will try later.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 09:57 PM
Sep 2014

I have the impression that the threshold for embarking on overt military actions has been lowered over the years.

I trust that both authors present sincere points of view.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
2. I haven't watched C-Span in Years..do you have a link?
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 07:17 PM
Sep 2014

I still remember the incredible Kennedy/Byrd Debates over NOT INVADING IRAQ...

I watched for awhile after ...........

After Obama was Elected I cut out of it.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
4. Me too Koko..
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 08:41 PM
Sep 2014

Well I actually had cable and/satellite in pre-Obama years. I watched a hell of a lot of C-Span. But after Obama was elected, not so much, and especially when I moved to the Bay Area and cut both cable and satellite from my expenses due to financial crises.

Last time I tried, I found navigating C-span for live broadcasts rather confusing and cumbersome. I did manage to tune in during the SCOTUS session over Gay Marriage. That was awesome.

I'm not sure how I found the link. I think someone posted it.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
8. Thanks for sharing your experience...it's mine, also....
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 09:55 PM
Sep 2014
I'm still clueless about the OP...though.
 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
5. H2O man, was it difficult listening to John Yoo debate this issue?
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 08:43 PM
Sep 2014

I think I would have ended up yelling at my computer everytime he opened his fascist mouth.

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