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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"Nth Dimensional Chess" is Just Trickle Down Economics in Disguise
Well if we support the TTP we'll lower costs for the average family(While taking away their well-paying, labor union jobs and sending them overseas. Sure goods may be cheaper, but people won't have money to buy them anyway.)
Well we have to attack ISIS/L before they attack us
(We'd rather fight them abroad than at home... I think we've tried this shit before. It doesn't work.)
Hillary is the Democratic candidate and running a strong primary opponent will only weaken her for the general election.
(But, but, but 1980! Actually Carter lost to Reagan because he was soft spoken and Reagan was charismatic. Carter was still right. And it had nothing to do with Kennedy.)
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Basically, we need to support the TTP so that corporations can make obscene profits off of slave labor in foreign nations, keep their profits abroad, and pay off their 1% owners. We are supposed to continue the military industrial complex, privatize large portions of the military and military auxiliary services, and enrich these private companies in the name of security and freedom. And, we should ignore our own immediate needs like food, shelter, economic stability, and education, elect third way democrats to profit the 1% and their corporations and don't spoil our free ride with them to the presidency or we might get a Republican boogieman in charge instead.
We do all of these things. And then creature comforts, economic security, and all those profits will make their way down to us somehow.
Like I said... "Nth dimensional chess" is just trickle down economics in disguise. If it smells like shit, it tastes like shit, it's probably just shit regardless of what they call it when they feed it to us. So I suggest this election season, we work hard to elect actual progressive democrats. What's the worst that could happen? A DINO or a Republican? Ok maybe that would suck, but if we won't try because we're afraid of the outcome, we will always lose, not just possibly lose.
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"Nth Dimensional Chess" is Just Trickle Down Economics in Disguise (Original Post)
Fearless
Sep 2014
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Autumn
(45,120 posts)1. I think you covered it all.
valerief
(53,235 posts)2. TPP-worship is more bullshit beating down a beaten populace. nt
RandiFan1290
(6,239 posts)3. Leo Strauss' Philosophy of Deception
Leo Strauss' Philosophy of Deception
http://www.alternet.org/story/15935/leo_strauss%27_philosophy_of_deception
http://www.alternet.org/story/15935/leo_strauss%27_philosophy_of_deception
...this regime of secrecy, deception and propaganda is an essential feature of the neoconservative political philosophy that now drives the leadership of both major political parties. Leo Strauss, the intellectual godfather of the neocons, was a refugee from 1930s Germany who believed that any genuine effort to achieve government of the people, by the people, for the people was doomed to end as the Weimar Republic did in Germany with the rise of Hitler and the Nazis. Strauss had a very dark Hobbesian view of human nature, which he justified with secret meanings he claimed were hidden in the works of Plato, Nietzsche and all philosophers. Strauss did not believe that the general public could handle the truth as he saw it, so that any system in which the public held real power would surely end in barbarism.
The Straussian solution to this imaginary problem is a system of managed democracy, in which a privileged high priesthood or oligarchy monopolizes real power as it oversees a superficial structure of democracy and promotes patriotic and religious myths to ensure the loyalty of the public and the cohesion of society. Political scientist Sheldon Wolin has dubbed this inverted totalitarianism. Because it is less openly offensive than classical totalitarianism, the inverted form may be more sustainable and therefore more successful in achieving a total concentration of wealth and power, paradoxically making it more insidious and dangerous than the classical totalitarianism the Straussians claim to be saving us from.
The Straussian solution to this imaginary problem is a system of managed democracy, in which a privileged high priesthood or oligarchy monopolizes real power as it oversees a superficial structure of democracy and promotes patriotic and religious myths to ensure the loyalty of the public and the cohesion of society. Political scientist Sheldon Wolin has dubbed this inverted totalitarianism. Because it is less openly offensive than classical totalitarianism, the inverted form may be more sustainable and therefore more successful in achieving a total concentration of wealth and power, paradoxically making it more insidious and dangerous than the classical totalitarianism the Straussians claim to be saving us from.
YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)8. Interesting
a privileged high priesthood or oligarchy monopolizes real power as it oversees a superficial structure of democracy and promotes patriotic and religious myths to ensure the loyalty of the public and the cohesion of society.
Basically what we have now.
leftstreet
(36,110 posts)4. DURec
progressoid
(49,992 posts)5. ...
Romulox
(25,960 posts)6. How does the party of NAFTA argue against the TPP though?
Most recently, the President gave up Free Trade with South Korea. Was that the last straw? No? Than why is it so different this time?
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)7. Kicked and recommended!
You nailed it, Fearless.
TBF
(32,084 posts)9. Who do you think funded the Third Way -
it's not a grass roots movements that's for sure.
http://www.thenation.com/blog/177437/gop-donors-and-k-street-fuel-third-ways-advice-democratic-party
uriel1972
(4,261 posts)10. If it works...
They say, "That's how nth dimensional chess works." If it doesn't, they say, "You don't understand how nth dimensional chess works." It's like superstition and/or prayer, God moving in mysterious ways and all that stuff,. Waffle.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)11. Recommended thread. Great comments in the replies too